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Aer Lingus Mentored Cadet Pilot Programme 2017

Old 13th Jul 2016, 17:04
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When you register you are sent an email that outlines the whole process far better than anyone here is going to explain it. So for everyone asking about this and that, just register and it will all become clearer.

I just finished the tests myself. It's my first time ever doing these so i'm not sure how to gauge how well I did. If I had to pick my two weakest, I think I'd have to go with the Numeracy test and spatial reasoning test. I have a PPL so I was kicking myself that I wasnt happy with the spatial test. Been a while since Ive flown and I was a bit rusty.

For people who have done these tests before, how difficult would you say these Aer Lingus tests were in comparison to other or even previous Aer Lingus tests?

Does anyone have an idea of what happens now? Is this it until the interviews at the end of September if a candidate is successful at these aptitude tests?

Anyway, Best of Luck to everyone.

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Old 13th Jul 2016, 20:39
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Folks, I've been reading through the aerlingus website. Am I missing something? It doesn't specifically say that the flight training will be fully funded as it has been in previous years? Can anyone confirm?
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Old 13th Jul 2016, 22:03
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AFAIK funding details haven't been confirmed yet.
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Old 13th Jul 2016, 22:54
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They could probably save a lot of effort being more up-front about that now - a lot of people might drop out of the recruitment process if it turns out to be beyond their means.
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Old 13th Jul 2016, 22:57
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Its strange that they wouldn't confirm it at the outset like previous years. I can't help but wonder if IAG has had something to say about fully funding cadetships. It doesn't happen at BA and certainly doesn't happen at Vueling. Pure speculation on my part however!
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Old 13th Jul 2016, 23:02
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If you can afford an Airbus A320, why can't you afford 150k for the pilot to go with it? The answer is that you can, but you can cut costs because people are willing to pay to get into flying. So it must be hard for one airline to be the one that starts funding cadetships because presumably that makes you marginally less competitive against your peers. Unfortunate knock-on is that us lot have to be 'dedicated' and suck it up...
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 00:09
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Is anyone else having problems accessing the applied numeracy test page? If I try to start the test in English it loads the pop up window with the counter dial, but counts to 101 and then stalls. I can get it to load in German, but my german is a bit too rusty to trust when speed is needed. Have tried the normal suggestions of reloading, and of quitting the browser and starting again, but to no avail.

Will speak to Are Lingus tomorrow, but wondered if anyone else was having the same problem before I do.

e2a: Having given up last night, I tried again this morning and it worked straight away, so if anyone else did have the same problem, then it is probably worth another try.

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Old 14th Jul 2016, 00:12
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Folks, I've been reading through the aerlingus website. Am I missing something? It doesn't specifically say that the flight training will be fully funded as it has been in previous years? Can anyone confirm?
I believe that last year they made it clear that future schemes would be fully funded unless otherwise stated, or something to that effect. They've stated this year that they are funding living expenses, why would they fund living expenses if they weren't going to fund the rest of the programme? In short, it appears to be very, very good.

If you can afford an Airbus A320, why can't you afford 150k for the pilot to go with it? The answer is that you can, but you can cut costs because people are willing to pay to get into flying. So it must be hard for one airline to be the one that starts funding cadetships because presumably that makes you marginally less competitive against your peers. Unfortunate knock-on is that us lot have to be 'dedicated' and suck it up...
You don't have to "suck it up", you can simply apply for the programmes which offer full funding and this programme would appear to be one of those. Remember, the last time BA ran the FPP, they didn't fill their ninety-something spaces despite having thousands of applicants. That's how high the bar is, if the airlines can't fill their quotas, they'll have to offer better terms.

A Merchant Navy "Sponsoring Company" wouldn't charge you six figures to be a Deck/Engineering Officer, they'd pay you. Train Operating Companies have been known to experience hundreds of applicants per Driver's job, they don't charge you to be a Train Driver, again they pay you. Why should it be any different to become a First Officer for an airline?
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 06:41
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Do you think they read our CVs? I ask because I will obtain CPL/IR/ME+MCC with ATPL theory this September with total of 200 FH and I mentioned it in CV and still received online assessment link.
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 09:08
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Hoddington - I had the same problem with the Numerical test, try clearing your internet history, that made it work for me.

Chris the Robot - Thanks for your reply. I read about the expenses part and I assume the same thing as you do. However, I can think of one airline that makes you pay for a Type Rating but gives you a daily training allowance from day one.

You say the bar is/was very high. Makes you wonder what they are after! As for Aer Lingus, its fourth time lucky.
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 12:32
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Got my assessments and attempted to complete some of them yesterday, the Spatial Orientation was my Achilles heel. I do have to admit that years of computer gaming experience did help with a few of the assessments haha!

Good Luck to all!

First time applying and also my first ever post on PPRuNe even though I've been on this website for a long time now (be gentle)
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 12:37
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Complex Control/Hand-Eye Coordination assessment was awesome
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 14:13
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That was quite a set of assessments!

Verbal reasoning I found very tough - if anybody got through all the questions they should really deserve to be instantly be accepted into the programme!

Really enjoyed the reactivity, multitasking and numerical reasoning rounds. Complex control was basically a very familiar game!
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 14:22
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Assessment Tests

Hey Guys, received my assessment package... Currently in a hotel 'downroute' (work for an airline as CC) I only have a MacBook and no mouse, I land back to the uk tomorrow... Is it fine to run on a MacBook first of all? And are there any assessments I can do without a mouse first so that I'm not trying to complete the whole thing tomorrow Jet lagged to hell but with a mouse! Wish I'd received info a day early and could have packed my mouse!
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 14:44
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Hi Bn02fly,

Firstly, I did the tests on a macbook air - no problems at all.

I did most of it using my laptop's touchpad to be honest. The only part I really felt I needed my mouse was the 'hand-eye coordination' test, but even then it probably would have been fine using the touchpad.

You can definitely do the 2 behavioural questionnaires, the verbal and numerical reasoning, and spatial orientation with the touchpad no problem at all, and those will take up most of the 2 hours anyway!

Good luck
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 15:35
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I expected to have the results pretty rapidly. I Guess they see how everyone does then set the bar accordingly.
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 15:52
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Originally Posted by ScotWings View Post
That was quite a set of assessments!

Verbal reasoning I found very tough - if anybody got through all the questions they should really deserve to be instantly be accepted into the programme!

Really enjoyed the reactivity, multitasking and numerical reasoning rounds. Complex control was basically a very familiar game!
Glad I wasn't the only one that thought VR was tough, I couldn't even get half of them done.
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 16:24
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Just finished the tests.
Really enjoyed going through most of them.
Verbal reasoning was good, although it took me quite a bit of time to find my rhythm (and of course could not complete ).
Eager to see what comes next, whether an invitation or a rejection.
Was the first time applying to any scheme for me, so it does help to know now what it takes to get in.
Good luck all. Hope to see you in Ireland in September.

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Old 14th Jul 2016, 16:37
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Originally Posted by ScotWings View Post
Hi Bn02fly,

Firstly, I did the tests on a macbook air - no problems at all.

I did most of it using my laptop's touchpad to be honest. The only part I really felt I needed my mouse was the 'hand-eye coordination' test, but even then it probably would have been fine using the touchpad.

You can definitely do the 2 behavioural questionnaires, the verbal and numerical reasoning, and spatial orientation with the touchpad no problem at all, and those will take up most of the 2 hours anyway!

Good luck
Thanks Scotwings! Good Luck to you too!
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 16:53
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Does anyone know if points are deducted for incorrect answers...?
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