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Old 12th Jun 2001, 05:31
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Hi everyone:
I am a 25 year old U.S. citizen(born and raised in New York City) currently bent on an airline pilot career. I will start training for my private in September. I work full time so I will do the part-time training route.
Can someone please tell me if there are airlines outside of the U.S. who will hire pilots from the U.S? I do mean both sponsorship an/or lets say I had Comm/Inst/ME ratings that I earned here.
I heard that British Airways, Cathay Pacific, JAL, and some others do hire Americans. Even Eastern European, Asian, African, or South American would interest me(sounds like the whole world).
Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
 
Old 12th Jun 2001, 07:40
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I might be wrong here but I think u have to have a JAR or CAA license to be employed in the UK/Europe.

U can get sponsorship from European airlines if u have the right to live in that country and speak the native language.

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Old 12th Jun 2001, 08:30
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Aint no european airline gonna hire you if dont know their home coutry language. If you want to get employed outside form US, than try Asia or Middle east. CX, Emirates, Korean Air,..... Why do you want to try outside of US anyway? I would stay here. US airlines will have shortge od pilots in few ywars, and it is a good chance for you.
 
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Post anyone who has worked for a foreign airlina and is willing to share the experience

Would like to get a first hand perspective from any person who has worked as an airline pilot in a foreign country. Was is strange? How did you adjust to the place? How did you get the ob in the first place....
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Sorry that should be spelt - airline but airlina has kind of a nice twang to it!!!
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Hi.../ I would like to hear some experiences as well. Many British pilots join very foreign airlines...I probably dont know much about these stuff compared to a lot of people here...But would like to know how pilots get into jobs with airlines way down the globe!
 
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At a guess I'd say they checked the residency requirements and the required hours/experience for the company. Then applied.. .You may have more luck asking the respective regions on PPRuNe.. .Yes, it is hard work at times adjusting to a new country. Even if the language is roughly the same.
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Foreign airlines?

Hi. I'm currently an 18 year old student pilot just going to be starting my commercials license in the next few months. I just have a few questions regarding wanting to fly for a foreign airline. I currently live in Canada and I'm not too happy with the way aviation is in Canada as far as major airlines go. We really only have one major airline and that's air Canada and their hanging by a thread. Canada is a big country but IMO, sadly lacks big airline advancement. That's why I'm sorta looking else where in other countries with the exception of the USA because they set the standards too high for hiring requirements. I would love to fly for FedEx but you have to be living there previously a minimum of 5 years. Now I'm not going to just pack up and move there hoping to just get on the application list, I need a better strategy than just gambling my chances. I know Europe and Asia have lots of big airlines to offer and I looked up their requirements and their not as strict as the USA (the only one that peeves me off is the 5 year living requirement that most other countries don't require.) I would love to fly for somebody like British Airways or Lufthansa or Cathay. My reasons is those airlines fly to a lot of places around the world and that is something I want to do when I become a pilot for a major airline is fly to a lot of different places like those guys do. And another reason for picking those airlines is they fly a wide range fleet of big heavy planes like the 747, A340, 777 those planes I really want to fly.

I looked up the requirements for some. Lufthansa I noticed requires that you speak and write German, a language that I totally have to idea how to speak or write. Other than possible languages you have to know, what advice does everybody have for a Canadian pilot wanting to look for employment in another country? If I were to get all my training done in Canada and have all my licenses issued by the Canadian government, does that mean they won't even look at me? And I know that you have to have legal citizenship in that country but is it anything like having to live there for 5 years first or can citizenship be obtained while in the getting the job process?

Would they also look at a degree? I'm thinking of getting a business degree from my local university. Other than that, what can I expect for wanting this dream? I wish my country had more to offer but all those foreign airlines have such cool planes and fly to so much more places. A somewhat inspirement for me wanting to fly for those guys was a couple of weeks back, a British Airways 777 made a medical emergency landing at our airport. Around here, we don't get much bigger planes than the 757 and seeing a BA plane here is quite rare. Its just that as I stared up at that huge magnificent bird, it just made me want to be more and more a pilot but I know what my interests are and that is flying bigger planes around the world.

Sorry for my rambling. I know airlines always choose pilots that have been living in their own country over somebody who hasn't as long but I hope the dream won't be over before it even starts. I hope one day to be behind the stick of a 747 flying across some ocean to an exotic destination but than again, I guess that's every pilots dream so its nothing special. Your help will be greatly appreciated.
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Old 17th Feb 2004, 10:29
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Since you already started your flight training in Canada I suggest that you go ahead and finish your training. Also, since you are only 18 I strongly suggest that you get a college degree so you have another way of living when things get tough.
Most of european countries expect their pilots to speak the national language, unless they cannot find enough pilots and they start looking outside. These days a lot of pilots are looking for jobs, so I don't see any reason why they would be looking for foreigners not speaking the language. Eastern europe would be an option these days, not western europe.
Also, becoming a EU citizen is not that easy. You need to have relatives holding an EU passport for you to get the citizenship. Do you have anybody in your family from the EU ? No EU carrier will hire you without citizenship, they have already lots of EU pilots looking for jobs ...
Another thing is the license, you will need an EU license called also JAA license. That means license conversion and some extra money. I think that there are some schools in Canada preparing for the JAA (european) license.
Now, the canadian license is an ICAO license. There are a lot of countries around that accept your license and would hire you if you meet the minimum requirements, Africa, Asia, Middle East. Also, converting to a FAA license is very easy, you should do it so you might gain employment in the USA if you have a green card.
US carriers do require a 4 years college degree, so get your degree ...

good luck with your training,

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I have family in Denmark (where my dad was born). Would that work to gain citizenship? Would learning the language help as well? About the degree thing, I'm thinking of getting a business degree. Would that be a good degree to have?

Thanks for letting me know about Canadian schools preparing for JAA licenses I'll have to look into that. ADAM
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Adam,

Yes, you dad being born in Denmark grants you citizenship. Start the paper work, it might take a while ...
Learning the language will depend on the country where you want to work, I would say that german or french might open you more doors than danish.
Any degree will do it, pick out something that you enjoy learning ...

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