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We all know that Syntax likes to moan about Wizz and his posts are tinged with an agenda but if you actually go through point by point, there is absolutely nothing factually incorrect about anything that he has written.
Wizz used to be (and most probably still are) notorious for replacing your days off in a month with your leave days. Meaning that in a month with leave, where you would expect at any other airline to be working less hard, you could easily be in excess of 90 hours for the month!! I mean what is that if not vindictive and piss-taking?
Wizz used to be (and most probably still are) notorious for replacing your days off in a month with your leave days. Meaning that in a month with leave, where you would expect at any other airline to be working less hard, you could easily be in excess of 90 hours for the month!! I mean what is that if not vindictive and piss-taking?
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I can only say that I can confirm every fact that Syntax stated.
I almost forgot all this ****, now it echoed in my head as I was reading his post.
"Greedy" and "cheap" management describes it perfectly. This is why Wizz Air will never be the company to retire. You are just a cost that they need to reduce.
Everything has to be "cheap": your food, your uniform, the office arrangement, secondary airports, handling, service, etc
All so that they can make even more profit and enjoy the expensive lifestyle in Geneva.
Their "thank you" is enough.
And that's exactly why I left the company even though I was working out of my home city.
Good luck to all who decided to stay. You must like to be treated this way.
I almost forgot all this ****, now it echoed in my head as I was reading his post.
"Greedy" and "cheap" management describes it perfectly. This is why Wizz Air will never be the company to retire. You are just a cost that they need to reduce.
Everything has to be "cheap": your food, your uniform, the office arrangement, secondary airports, handling, service, etc
All so that they can make even more profit and enjoy the expensive lifestyle in Geneva.
Their "thank you" is enough.
It's just the general attitude of the management, and they have inexperienced children running peoples life like it's a computer game.
Good luck to all who decided to stay. You must like to be treated this way.
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That is not true, the bond is 415 eur a months for 36 months, which makes 15000, not 30000.
If you leave earlier you have to pay back 15k minus what you have paid back already, pro rata. No additional bond.
Plus you get 7500 back after 3 years, which makes the total cost to the pilot a grand total of 7500.
If you leave earlier you have to pay back 15k minus what you have paid back already, pro rata. No additional bond.
Plus you get 7500 back after 3 years, which makes the total cost to the pilot a grand total of 7500.
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Syntax, you say that an applicant can pay his rating (14000 eur+ vat) and having no bond. But after this, does an applicant have to sign a bond for base or even line training, since typerated candidates have to pay 5000 eur. for this.
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I know it's changed quite a lot since we was workin there regarding the bond for type rating.
We was bonded for 30000euro and had to pay back 1000euro per month for the first 15 months. Which is extortion I agree! But isn't EZY charging cadets £36000 for a Airbus rating?
We was bonded for 30000euro and had to pay back 1000euro per month for the first 15 months. Which is extortion I agree! But isn't EZY charging cadets £36000 for a Airbus rating?
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It is bulls*** and I say it again, for the second time.
There is no bond, only the deduction of 415 euros for 36 months.
After 3 years you get back 7500 on the 37th month salary.
If you leave before 36 months you have to give them back 15000 minus what they already deducted from your salary. That is what you call bond.
It's been like this for at least 6 months, I dont know before. I talk about people not type rated that got the TR from Wizz.
End of story, no rocket science.
There is no bond, only the deduction of 415 euros for 36 months.
After 3 years you get back 7500 on the 37th month salary.
If you leave before 36 months you have to give them back 15000 minus what they already deducted from your salary. That is what you call bond.
It's been like this for at least 6 months, I dont know before. I talk about people not type rated that got the TR from Wizz.
End of story, no rocket science.
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Syntax you are really giving wrong information.
The SFO pay starts with 1500 factorized hours, not 2800.
But you could figure it out yourself, considering that it is becoming standard to start the upgrade with 3000 hours, if you are a decent pilot.
The SFO pay starts with 1500 factorized hours, not 2800.
But you could figure it out yourself, considering that it is becoming standard to start the upgrade with 3000 hours, if you are a decent pilot.
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Never read so many wrong information in one post.
For the last time: I entered with just over 1500 hours, and got a SFO contract, like many other.
Bond is 15k, pro rated if you get out earlier. 7,5k you get it back after 3 years.
In the past I have no idea, this is how it is NOW.
I could make a screenshot of my contract and my payslip, but it is obvious that even in that case you would not change your mind, since you clearly have a huge axe to grind, so I will stop it here.
If you and/or your friend are functional illiterate who cannot understand a contract it is most definitely not my problem, but dissiminating wrong information is not correct, especially because the risk is high that someone will believe you.
Over and out.
For the last time: I entered with just over 1500 hours, and got a SFO contract, like many other.
Bond is 15k, pro rated if you get out earlier. 7,5k you get it back after 3 years.
In the past I have no idea, this is how it is NOW.
I could make a screenshot of my contract and my payslip, but it is obvious that even in that case you would not change your mind, since you clearly have a huge axe to grind, so I will stop it here.
If you and/or your friend are functional illiterate who cannot understand a contract it is most definitely not my problem, but dissiminating wrong information is not correct, especially because the risk is high that someone will believe you.
Over and out.
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I met at least 30 if not more people that got the same like me, all new joiners.
Nothing messed up, a part from the brain of the people that cannot read/understand what is presented to them.
The 30k comes from the wording they have, they say that 30k is the total cost for the company, but the amount to be reimbursed by the pilot is 15k, reduced pro rata, as clearly stated in the training agreement.
If you read the slides in budapest you might get the interpretation of your friend, but ask clarifications, and read the actual contract, and it will be crystal clear.
Nothing messed up, a part from the brain of the people that cannot read/understand what is presented to them.
The 30k comes from the wording they have, they say that 30k is the total cost for the company, but the amount to be reimbursed by the pilot is 15k, reduced pro rata, as clearly stated in the training agreement.
If you read the slides in budapest you might get the interpretation of your friend, but ask clarifications, and read the actual contract, and it will be crystal clear.
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For the 100th and last time, the training agreement is TOTALLY different now, but since getting fired is not in my plans, I am not going to post screenshots of the current one here.
People can believe it or not, I dont give a c**p, but if someone is smart enough is going to make a decision based on an actual offer, not on the biased opinion of some old grumpy unhappy employee with a massive chip on his shoulder, who posts old, outdates or plainly false information.
BR,
People can believe it or not, I dont give a c**p, but if someone is smart enough is going to make a decision based on an actual offer, not on the biased opinion of some old grumpy unhappy employee with a massive chip on his shoulder, who posts old, outdates or plainly false information.
BR,
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Dirk, do you how it works if you pay the rating on your own (the 14000 eur plus vat syntax wwas talking about). Is there still another bond to be signed for base or line training? It makes a lot difference if you are not bonded ofcourse.
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I am not able to answer this question because I didn't meet anyone so far who self sponsored the rating after the assessment with Wizz.
I know for sure that guys that were type rated already are not bonded.
I know for sure that guys that were type rated already are not bonded.
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Yes, well we now all know how things in Wizz Air are...
However, the reason things like they are is because Wizz Air pilots are accepting it.
For most of those pilots this is the first airline (or second after Euro-Lot or Malev) and they simply don't know any better.
And Wizz Air top management knows how to use it.
However, the reason things like they are is because Wizz Air pilots are accepting it.
For most of those pilots this is the first airline (or second after Euro-Lot or Malev) and they simply don't know any better.
And Wizz Air top management knows how to use it.
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I love this discussion. Rumours based on second hand informations. What is the problem in the conditions offered by WIZZ? You don't pay anything for the type rating, in exchange, you sign a training bond. If you leave before your 3 years are up, you have to pay. You get salary from the first day you start your type rating, and a contract (choice of direct or contractor) which might not be up for some guys, but still decent enough among low cost airlines. If you don't like it, than go for Emirates, Qatar, China or wherever you feel, you are more valued.
Not everybody has logged thousands of A320 hours. Neither can everybody finance their own type rating. Or pay the P2F program. WIZZ is quite OK for them. Top Guns, not so much.
Not everybody has logged thousands of A320 hours. Neither can everybody finance their own type rating. Or pay the P2F program. WIZZ is quite OK for them. Top Guns, not so much.