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Old 26th Sep 2014, 06:21
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I do agree with you guys, however there is nothing we can do about it. It is the bussiness and the purpose of the selection committee.
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 08:01
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Did anyone who met the entry criteria but got an instant rejection get a reply from FTE Jerez about why?
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 08:59
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I applied several days ago. No reply of any description. I've also emailed FTE and heard nothing back from there either. I've got nothing in my spam folder and I own, and manage my own email server so I have absolute control over filtering etc and I can confidently say I've not received anything. It would be a shame if the first stage of this process comes down to a spin of the roulette wheel!
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 10:54
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Did you try to call?
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 11:56
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Good luck to everyone who submitted the questions!

In regards to FTE replying to the submitted questions, they will most likely reply when the apply online reaches its deadline.

I know it's not exactly the same situation but a friend applied for the BA FPP literally the night before the deadline, he was probably the last applicant! Yet he got called to attend the assessment day. (Made it all the way to the last stage and they withdraw him for unknown reasons - still a mystery! And he's got a Masters in aeronautical engineering with a PPL! Makes me wonder what kind of people Airlines really want).

My point being, it's only fair that they wait until the very last applicant then proceed to notify the successful applicants, they probably already have favourites though.

If they have a limit of 200 people to go Dublin, yet 2000 applied thus far, they would have already selected the 200 people. But does people are not guaranteed until the application closes as there could be someone 'better' that may replace their least favourite of the 200! I hope this makes sense?
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 14:30
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I'm not bothered at all by who gets a place, so long as it's someone who has been desperate to become a pilot and genuinely wants it, not some guy who just saw the facebook post and thought it might be fun. This has happened before, hopefully fte will stop this occurring .
I see you're point but it comes across as a bit bitter. The assessment process isn't just about playing computer games and HR style interviews, a significant chunk is about your motivation. IMO nobody could 'bluff' they're way through when competition is as fierce as it is, they get there on merit.
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 18:10
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I don't know about this case but in a lot of companies I've seen the whole "we want someone who is passionate about the role and the industry" is a load of codswallop they put in their public statements. I know of several people who've fallen into positions on the basis of other criteria when others who would really love such a role have been rejected.

Not saying that will be the case here but I've seen it in a plethora of cases before although there are a lot of stages to this process to hopefully prevent that.

The online question things though can totally be gamed by people who are familiar with it and can flop for those who aren't into the whole application jargon thing.
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 20:45
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I'm not bothered at all by who gets a place, so long as it's someone who has been desperate to become a pilot and genuinely wants it, not some guy who just saw the facebook post and thought it might be fun. This has happened before, hopefully fte will stop this occurring .
Officer Kite, you nailed it on the head as I know someone like this who's now flying an A330...
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 22:09
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ManUtd1999 you have misunderstood me if you think I'm being bitter. I'm anything but ! I admire these opportunities for one reason, they give those with a heartfelt passion and dream to become a pilot (but don't have the cash) the chance to achieve their dream. How can you possibly be happy when people who couldn't have cared less about aviation get chosen, mainly because they're good at the HR talk. I've gotten quite far in a few selection processes and after the initial aptitude tests, all you have to do is try convey interest in aviation (not difficult) and then the HR nonsense is the main thing that gets you in, nothing to do with a passion for aviation whatsoever.

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Old 27th Sep 2014, 12:22
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The main questions is has anybody received a "yes" for the assessment day?
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Old 27th Sep 2014, 13:06
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No jumpseat, sure they can't decide until they've seen everyone. Expect nothing until at least a few days after the closing date.
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Old 27th Sep 2014, 15:48
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Regarding people being accepted without a true passion to fly and talking bs when asked in the interview 'why you want to be a pilot' is incredibly frustrating! Like myself, I'm sure all of you grew up with your eyes turned skyward and we should be the ones getting into airline programmes!

It's unfortunate but I guess your always going to get those people who never really had any motivation at school and suddenly want to become a pilot after seeing an advert on fb. We have to be positive though and show aer lingus that we will be better pilots!
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Old 27th Sep 2014, 16:53
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Motivating post there Runner233.

I feel the same way. If we can get past the initial stages I'm sure that those with a true passion will stand out!

On other news am I the only one constantly checking my emails?
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Old 27th Sep 2014, 20:09
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It's unfortunate but I guess your always going to get those people who never really had any motivation at school and suddenly want to become a pilot after seeing an advert on fb. We have to be positive though and show aer lingus that we will be better pilots!
There is no scientific proof that if you wanted to be a pilot from a young age versus stumbling across the advertisement and decided to apply, you will be any better in training or have better aptitude for the skills in which the job demands. That is a myth.
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Old 27th Sep 2014, 20:58
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There is no scientific proof that if you wanted to be a pilot from a young age versus stumbling across the advertisement and decided to apply, you will be any better in training or have better aptitude for the skills in which the job demands. That is a myth.
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No one mentioned that the ones with passion are more successful in training. It's just really annoying to see someone who does not possess any interest towards aviation nor has any idea about a plane flies, to get caught by an advert on FB, and be offered a place on the scheme, while other applicants whose eyes turned always skyward, willing to do anything for the sake of flying, not to have the opportunity to make some dreams come true.
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Old 27th Sep 2014, 21:55
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Does anyone know roughly how many people will get to go to the initial Dublin assessment?
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Old 27th Sep 2014, 22:03
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And he's got a Masters in aeronautical engineering with a PPL! Makes me wonder what kind of people Airlines really want).
Of the six BA cadets on my course, three have done aerospace engineering at uni, two have PPLs, and the other has a solid amount of flying experience. All are passionate about flying and for them this is their dream come true. It sounds like your friend fits the mould nicely, so whatever the reason for him not making it was, it certainly wasn't because of his degree or PPL.

Good luck to all applying for the Aer Lingus scheme.
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Old 28th Sep 2014, 01:30
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BAe 146-100,

I never said that people who have wanted to be pilots since a young age will be better pilots and I do agree that having a strong interest in flying does NOT imply you will be better than anyone else who does not - there are too many factors to consider and that's why airlines have very skilled and well trained HR employees.

I said you have to show aer lingus that you will be a better pilot which is completely and clearly different to the above. This is why you completed an application and wrote about previous experiences, it's why you will answer questions about your experiences and motivation in an interview and it's why you will do a pilot aptitude test...

G-forc3,

How is training at FTE going so far? Must be really enjoyable!

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Old 28th Sep 2014, 08:45
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G-forc3,

How is training at FTE going so far? Must be really enjoyable!
All going well after the first two weeks, thanks for asking. The subjects are very interesting but there's a lot to cover so we'll need to work hard.
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Old 28th Sep 2014, 16:56
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No more applications accepted. Good luck everyone
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