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If you read that they have sacked 60 pilots (NTR included), than i guess we can all forget this. And maybe according the current situation, it is not such a bad thing at all. Never heard anything of them after doing the test.
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the 60 pilots sacked. Anyone more info on this ? Or is it true what is written on Pilotjobsnetwork? to make space for self sponsored?? If those guys were on 6 month contracts it may seem more or less logic knowing the contractors world...... Else it might become a yearly thing..
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From what I have heard its to become a yearly thing for now based on seniority. An email dictated that they do not foresee those affected should not have to take unpaid leave as they will have a higher seniority.
From what I have heard its to become a yearly thing for now based on seniority. An email dictated that they do not foresee those affected should not have to take unpaid leave as they will have a higher seniority.
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Read this thread, especially what "captplaystation" posts, and ask yourself if you really want to fly for such a company:
http://www.pprune.org/terms-endearme...-pilots-3.html
http://www.pprune.org/terms-endearme...-pilots-3.html
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Hi Semmern.
I have read all the threads and looking to hear from others who went to the interview. I have not had my result yet and curious to hear if others have received a reply yet? Conditions are deteriorating in most airlines at the moment and NAS is actually a step-up for a lot of people even all the negative being discussed here.
I have read all the threads and looking to hear from others who went to the interview. I have not had my result yet and curious to hear if others have received a reply yet? Conditions are deteriorating in most airlines at the moment and NAS is actually a step-up for a lot of people even all the negative being discussed here.
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Do you people actually understand what is going on at DY these days? I mean, you read the posts here, note the ever-increasing negativity from those already inside DY, the steadily deteriorating Ts and Cs, the THREE MONTH CONTRACT THAT WILL COST YOU 20K, and you still line up around the block by the thousands? Use some bloody common sense and don't touch this contract with a ten-foot pole.
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I am utterly puzzled by this so-called 'offer'. And even more amazed by the poor sods who'd actually take it.
Let us forget for a while it seems nothing short of pay to fly, and digress.
So a succesful applicant gets to spend his 20-30-40? thousand euros for typerating. Then he gets to work for three months. Say he is lucky (my dear... lucky...) and clocks up 300 hours on the 737. What does he do next, pray tell?
IMHO from unexperienced turned into unemployable. The next gang around the corner does not want your 300 hours experience. They want you to do your typerating with THEM.
There's already a mechanism in place with pilots of certain provenence doing TR and clocking up 500hrs on a certain aircraft type (and paying for it quite a lot), to be subsequently employed by a certain legacy carrier (gosh! not only the LOCOs driving the market down, whoulda thought). But this? Again, what's the point of flying 300 hours?
I'm a low-timer. 580 hours, looking for my first break. This is the first time I see a 'job ad' I am eligible to apply to, and deliberately skipping it. I would like to know who on earth would sign up for this and what they'd be thinking.
Let us forget for a while it seems nothing short of pay to fly, and digress.
So a succesful applicant gets to spend his 20-30-40? thousand euros for typerating. Then he gets to work for three months. Say he is lucky (my dear... lucky...) and clocks up 300 hours on the 737. What does he do next, pray tell?
IMHO from unexperienced turned into unemployable. The next gang around the corner does not want your 300 hours experience. They want you to do your typerating with THEM.
There's already a mechanism in place with pilots of certain provenence doing TR and clocking up 500hrs on a certain aircraft type (and paying for it quite a lot), to be subsequently employed by a certain legacy carrier (gosh! not only the LOCOs driving the market down, whoulda thought). But this? Again, what's the point of flying 300 hours?
I'm a low-timer. 580 hours, looking for my first break. This is the first time I see a 'job ad' I am eligible to apply to, and deliberately skipping it. I would like to know who on earth would sign up for this and what they'd be thinking.
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The 3 months is nothing more than "cashback" by offering some paid line training. It's an almost-no-strings-attached way for NAS to sell type ratings, and simultaneously prepare the way of the eventual hiring they need to do when the delivery of their 222 aircraft order starts arriving in late 2015.
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So what you're actually saying is that you really do support P2F, but you don't have the balls to admit it to yourself. Because that's what your post really reads like.
I know dozens of guys who went the P2F route, and almost none of them have a job today. Go figure...
Anyone with the illusion that P2F is a good thing for us pilots in the long run, remember that you're supposed to be in this business for at least 30 years in most cases, and if you're helping to slash your own Ts and Cs, you're a terribly short-sighted individual..
I know dozens of guys who went the P2F route, and almost none of them have a job today. Go figure...
Anyone with the illusion that P2F is a good thing for us pilots in the long run, remember that you're supposed to be in this business for at least 30 years in most cases, and if you're helping to slash your own Ts and Cs, you're a terribly short-sighted individual..
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I sense a certain irritation in your post.
We all have that irritation with the situation today but remember there are two sides to a coin and two to a knife.
If I was supporting it I would have said so but the fact is that we all know people who did it and got a job while the rest struggle.
As I said, I don't agree with it and its something that lowers safety and destroys employment chances for us but unfortunately it is what it is.
Btw if you judge someone by a single post and reading between the lines, I guess I am not the short-sighted here......
We all have that irritation with the situation today but remember there are two sides to a coin and two to a knife.
If I was supporting it I would have said so but the fact is that we all know people who did it and got a job while the rest struggle.
As I said, I don't agree with it and its something that lowers safety and destroys employment chances for us but unfortunately it is what it is.
Btw if you judge someone by a single post and reading between the lines, I guess I am not the short-sighted here......
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