All Line Training in Indonesia Cancelled!!
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You can still corrupt an official in Indonesia and they will stamp your logbook and say you flew with them.... Without touching the plane.
Because we don't need really to fly the plane,it s just to get a job....
Because we don't need really to fly the plane,it s just to get a job....
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regulation number : AU.4301/1/1/DJPU.DKUPPU/2013
Regarding foreign pilots, those are about to commence flying in Indonesia, either to convert or validate their license, must have a minimum of 250hrs on the aircraft they intend to fly.
The regulation is in forced from January 10, 2013
I cant find on their website, but the authority has made a public announcement.
local website:
detikcom : situs warta era digital
Regarding foreign pilots, those are about to commence flying in Indonesia, either to convert or validate their license, must have a minimum of 250hrs on the aircraft they intend to fly.
The regulation is in forced from January 10, 2013
I cant find on their website, but the authority has made a public announcement.
local website:
detikcom : situs warta era digital
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 61
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From: Canada
Govt Tightens Rules on Use of Foreign Pilots by Indonesian Airlines
January 21, 2013
Indonesia's Transportation Ministry has tightened the requirements for the use of foreign pilots by Indonesian airlines, a ministry release said on Monday.
"The move has been taken in the context of improving aviation safety, especially to prevent a number of air incidents, including serious ones, involving foreign pilots," the ministry said in the press release.
The National Committee for Transportation Safety in December said that the Sukhoi Superjet crash that killed all 45 people on board during a demonstration flight in May was due to the foreign pilot's unfamiliarity with the terrain of West Java’s Mount Salak.
In mid-October, a Sriwijaya Air plane carrying 96 passengers landed at Tabing airbase in Padang, West Sumatra, 12 km from its intended destination of Padang airport. A ministry spokesman called it a "serious" breach of safety, though the landing was normal, and its foreign pilot was suspended pending investigations.
The ministry said that foreign pilots should have the appropriate flying hours for the type of aircraft they pilot.
"The transportation minister, in this case the air transportation directorate general, is requiring that foreign pilots wishing to apply for an Indonesian license or to validate theirs should have at least 250 flying hours for the specific aircraft they want to fly," the ministry said.
Airline operators wishing to use foreign pilots should also meet all requirements, including meeting the minimum flying hours requirement, when applying for validation or endorsement with the air transportation directorate general.
The release said that the new requirement took effect as of Jan 10.
Some 600 foreign pilots are currently estimated to be working with Indonesian airlines such as Lion Air, Citilink, Garuda Indonesia, Wings Air and Sriwijaya Air.
In 2011, 650 Indonesian pilots for Garuda Indonesia went on strike over wage inequality between Indonesian and foreign pilots. Following the strike, Garuda announced it planned to only use Indonesian pilots in the future. But in August 2012, Garuda said that as the airline wanted to add more jets to serve its regional and international routes, it was looking to use foreign pilots again.
Full article here - JakartaGlobe
Ministry of Transportation (Indonesia) / Kementerian Perhubungan Republik Indonesia
Govt Tightens Rules on Use of Foreign Pilots by Indonesian Airlines
January 21, 2013
Indonesia's Transportation Ministry has tightened the requirements for the use of foreign pilots by Indonesian airlines, a ministry release said on Monday.
"The move has been taken in the context of improving aviation safety, especially to prevent a number of air incidents, including serious ones, involving foreign pilots," the ministry said in the press release.
The National Committee for Transportation Safety in December said that the Sukhoi Superjet crash that killed all 45 people on board during a demonstration flight in May was due to the foreign pilot's unfamiliarity with the terrain of West Java’s Mount Salak.
In mid-October, a Sriwijaya Air plane carrying 96 passengers landed at Tabing airbase in Padang, West Sumatra, 12 km from its intended destination of Padang airport. A ministry spokesman called it a "serious" breach of safety, though the landing was normal, and its foreign pilot was suspended pending investigations.
The ministry said that foreign pilots should have the appropriate flying hours for the type of aircraft they pilot.
"The transportation minister, in this case the air transportation directorate general, is requiring that foreign pilots wishing to apply for an Indonesian license or to validate theirs should have at least 250 flying hours for the specific aircraft they want to fly," the ministry said.
Airline operators wishing to use foreign pilots should also meet all requirements, including meeting the minimum flying hours requirement, when applying for validation or endorsement with the air transportation directorate general.
The release said that the new requirement took effect as of Jan 10.
Some 600 foreign pilots are currently estimated to be working with Indonesian airlines such as Lion Air, Citilink, Garuda Indonesia, Wings Air and Sriwijaya Air.
In 2011, 650 Indonesian pilots for Garuda Indonesia went on strike over wage inequality between Indonesian and foreign pilots. Following the strike, Garuda announced it planned to only use Indonesian pilots in the future. But in August 2012, Garuda said that as the airline wanted to add more jets to serve its regional and international routes, it was looking to use foreign pilots again.
Full article here - JakartaGlobe
Ministry of Transportation (Indonesia) / Kementerian Perhubungan Republik Indonesia
Govt Tightens Rules on Use of Foreign Pilots by Indonesian Airlines
January 21, 2013
Indonesia's Transportation Ministry has tightened the requirements for the use of foreign pilots by Indonesian airlines, a ministry release said on Monday.
"The move has been taken in the context of improving aviation safety, especially to prevent a number of air incidents, including serious ones, involving foreign pilots," the ministry said in the press release.
The National Committee for Transportation Safety in December said that the Sukhoi Superjet crash that killed all 45 people on board during a demonstration flight in May was due to the foreign pilot's unfamiliarity with the terrain of West Java’s Mount Salak.
In mid-October, a Sriwijaya Air plane carrying 96 passengers landed at Tabing airbase in Padang, West Sumatra, 12 km from its intended destination of Padang airport. A ministry spokesman called it a "serious" breach of safety, though the landing was normal, and its foreign pilot was suspended pending investigations.
The ministry said that foreign pilots should have the appropriate flying hours for the type of aircraft they pilot.
"The transportation minister, in this case the air transportation directorate general, is requiring that foreign pilots wishing to apply for an Indonesian license or to validate theirs should have at least 250 flying hours for the specific aircraft they want to fly," the ministry said.
Airline operators wishing to use foreign pilots should also meet all requirements, including meeting the minimum flying hours requirement, when applying for validation or endorsement with the air transportation directorate general.
The release said that the new requirement took effect as of Jan 10.
Some 600 foreign pilots are currently estimated to be working with Indonesian airlines such as Lion Air, Citilink, Garuda Indonesia, Wings Air and Sriwijaya Air.
In 2011, 650 Indonesian pilots for Garuda Indonesia went on strike over wage inequality between Indonesian and foreign pilots. Following the strike, Garuda announced it planned to only use Indonesian pilots in the future. But in August 2012, Garuda said that as the airline wanted to add more jets to serve its regional and international routes, it was looking to use foreign pilots again.
Full article here - JakartaGlobe
Ministry of Transportation (Indonesia) / Kementerian Perhubungan Republik Indonesia
January 21, 2013
Indonesia's Transportation Ministry has tightened the requirements for the use of foreign pilots by Indonesian airlines, a ministry release said on Monday.
"The move has been taken in the context of improving aviation safety, especially to prevent a number of air incidents, including serious ones, involving foreign pilots," the ministry said in the press release.
The National Committee for Transportation Safety in December said that the Sukhoi Superjet crash that killed all 45 people on board during a demonstration flight in May was due to the foreign pilot's unfamiliarity with the terrain of West Java’s Mount Salak.
In mid-October, a Sriwijaya Air plane carrying 96 passengers landed at Tabing airbase in Padang, West Sumatra, 12 km from its intended destination of Padang airport. A ministry spokesman called it a "serious" breach of safety, though the landing was normal, and its foreign pilot was suspended pending investigations.
The ministry said that foreign pilots should have the appropriate flying hours for the type of aircraft they pilot.
"The transportation minister, in this case the air transportation directorate general, is requiring that foreign pilots wishing to apply for an Indonesian license or to validate theirs should have at least 250 flying hours for the specific aircraft they want to fly," the ministry said.
Airline operators wishing to use foreign pilots should also meet all requirements, including meeting the minimum flying hours requirement, when applying for validation or endorsement with the air transportation directorate general.
The release said that the new requirement took effect as of Jan 10.
Some 600 foreign pilots are currently estimated to be working with Indonesian airlines such as Lion Air, Citilink, Garuda Indonesia, Wings Air and Sriwijaya Air.
In 2011, 650 Indonesian pilots for Garuda Indonesia went on strike over wage inequality between Indonesian and foreign pilots. Following the strike, Garuda announced it planned to only use Indonesian pilots in the future. But in August 2012, Garuda said that as the airline wanted to add more jets to serve its regional and international routes, it was looking to use foreign pilots again.
Full article here - JakartaGlobe
Ministry of Transportation (Indonesia) / Kementerian Perhubungan Republik Indonesia
Govt Tightens Rules on Use of Foreign Pilots by Indonesian Airlines
January 21, 2013
Indonesia's Transportation Ministry has tightened the requirements for the use of foreign pilots by Indonesian airlines, a ministry release said on Monday.
"The move has been taken in the context of improving aviation safety, especially to prevent a number of air incidents, including serious ones, involving foreign pilots," the ministry said in the press release.
The National Committee for Transportation Safety in December said that the Sukhoi Superjet crash that killed all 45 people on board during a demonstration flight in May was due to the foreign pilot's unfamiliarity with the terrain of West Java’s Mount Salak.
In mid-October, a Sriwijaya Air plane carrying 96 passengers landed at Tabing airbase in Padang, West Sumatra, 12 km from its intended destination of Padang airport. A ministry spokesman called it a "serious" breach of safety, though the landing was normal, and its foreign pilot was suspended pending investigations.
The ministry said that foreign pilots should have the appropriate flying hours for the type of aircraft they pilot.
"The transportation minister, in this case the air transportation directorate general, is requiring that foreign pilots wishing to apply for an Indonesian license or to validate theirs should have at least 250 flying hours for the specific aircraft they want to fly," the ministry said.
Airline operators wishing to use foreign pilots should also meet all requirements, including meeting the minimum flying hours requirement, when applying for validation or endorsement with the air transportation directorate general.
The release said that the new requirement took effect as of Jan 10.
Some 600 foreign pilots are currently estimated to be working with Indonesian airlines such as Lion Air, Citilink, Garuda Indonesia, Wings Air and Sriwijaya Air.
In 2011, 650 Indonesian pilots for Garuda Indonesia went on strike over wage inequality between Indonesian and foreign pilots. Following the strike, Garuda announced it planned to only use Indonesian pilots in the future. But in August 2012, Garuda said that as the airline wanted to add more jets to serve its regional and international routes, it was looking to use foreign pilots again.
Full article here - JakartaGlobe
Ministry of Transportation (Indonesia) / Kementerian Perhubungan Republik Indonesia
Govt Tightens Rules on Use of Foreign Pilots by Indonesian Airlines
January 21, 2013
Indonesia's Transportation Ministry has tightened the requirements for the use of foreign pilots by Indonesian airlines, a ministry release said on Monday.
"The move has been taken in the context of improving aviation safety, especially to prevent a number of air incidents, including serious ones, involving foreign pilots," the ministry said in the press release.
The National Committee for Transportation Safety in December said that the Sukhoi Superjet crash that killed all 45 people on board during a demonstration flight in May was due to the foreign pilot's unfamiliarity with the terrain of West Java’s Mount Salak.
In mid-October, a Sriwijaya Air plane carrying 96 passengers landed at Tabing airbase in Padang, West Sumatra, 12 km from its intended destination of Padang airport. A ministry spokesman called it a "serious" breach of safety, though the landing was normal, and its foreign pilot was suspended pending investigations.
The ministry said that foreign pilots should have the appropriate flying hours for the type of aircraft they pilot.
"The transportation minister, in this case the air transportation directorate general, is requiring that foreign pilots wishing to apply for an Indonesian license or to validate theirs should have at least 250 flying hours for the specific aircraft they want to fly," the ministry said.
Airline operators wishing to use foreign pilots should also meet all requirements, including meeting the minimum flying hours requirement, when applying for validation or endorsement with the air transportation directorate general.
The release said that the new requirement took effect as of Jan 10.
Some 600 foreign pilots are currently estimated to be working with Indonesian airlines such as Lion Air, Citilink, Garuda Indonesia, Wings Air and Sriwijaya Air.
In 2011, 650 Indonesian pilots for Garuda Indonesia went on strike over wage inequality between Indonesian and foreign pilots. Following the strike, Garuda announced it planned to only use Indonesian pilots in the future. But in August 2012, Garuda said that as the airline wanted to add more jets to serve its regional and international routes, it was looking to use foreign pilots again.
Full article here - JakartaGlobe
Ministry of Transportation (Indonesia) / Kementerian Perhubungan Republik Indonesia
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From: Asia
I am not surprised. I think this is a whole setup to make few bucks arrange by a team of players inside and out. Don't waste your ur money on P2F.
There are plenty of other opportunities around the world besides A320 or 737. Just expand your search.
Now a days there are lot of TP aircraft work and looks better then a jet plus pays more than a jet too.
Companies who chargers 50k on line training and and etc they make more than 50% of the total as pure profit to the company.
So look around.
There are plenty of other opportunities around the world besides A320 or 737. Just expand your search.
Now a days there are lot of TP aircraft work and looks better then a jet plus pays more than a jet too.
Companies who chargers 50k on line training and and etc they make more than 50% of the total as pure profit to the company.
So look around.
Last edited by Skydive007; 23rd January 2013 at 03:08.
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From: home
Taking Indonesian CPL is also not going to work.....Expat FO shall have 250 hours on type to fly in indonesia.
so if you are an expat and looking for a job in indoesia, and have less than 250hours on type, there is NO CHANCE.
so if you are an expat and looking for a job in indoesia, and have less than 250hours on type, there is NO CHANCE.
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From: Istanbul
Indo
There is a reason why there are so many jobs in Indo right now. I just came back to Europe from Jakarta. The place is a !!!! hole and they have no idea how to manage the airline. Treating pilots like dogs. And the place to live is very bad, traffic is BAD, Duty time is BAD, Condition to rent a place to stay is BAD. Well i am glad that i am back.
Good Luck to thous who are going there or starting with any airline! i give 2 months u will be back in ur country looking for another career.
Good Luck to thous who are going there or starting with any airline! i give 2 months u will be back in ur country looking for another career.
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From: Anywhere and Everywhere
Avi8r
Avi8r,
I agreed Indonesia is not everyone's cup of tea. You must be one of those FOs recently failed the sim check twice and got sent home because you cannot meet the standard and cut the grade.
Happy flying.
I agreed Indonesia is not everyone's cup of tea. You must be one of those FOs recently failed the sim check twice and got sent home because you cannot meet the standard and cut the grade.
Happy flying.
Last edited by ROO-C26B; 30th January 2013 at 01:31.
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From: aussie land
Originally Posted by Phenom100
In the coming months i will starting with a well know carrier in Indonesia (not Lion) and i have NO time on type. So this may be just a Airfast restriction.
