All Line Training in Indonesia Cancelled!!

[avgeek23]

I heard yesterday that the DGCA in Indonesia has brought in a new rule stating no Indonesian airline may hire any foreign flight crew with less than 250 hours on type.

Can anyone confirm when this will take effect? Is it immediate?

I'm guessing it will have a huge impact on all those poor guys lined up for Lion Air through EagleJet!

[Luke SkyToddler]

If they were "poor" they sure as hell wouldn't be involved with Eaglejet, it's for rich kids only

[TypeIV]

If this is true

[inner]

Back side of the medal is that non typerated people can forget applying overthere, so yes, also the poor people. This rule is just to protect the locals.

It is getting worse every single day in this industry.

[ZFT]

This rule is just to protect the locals.

..and the EU, US of A and RoW don't also protect their own?

[Vsnake]

I'm not sure this will stop line training programs. Look in Turkish, the rule is 1500h for foreign pilots but there is still many line training programs going on..

[inner]

@zft, what concerns europe, NOP!!!!!!

This is europe of today.

[ZFT]

I'm sorry but you've lost me?

[TypeIV]

It is getting worse every single day in this industry.

How is the industry getting worse by removing alot of P2F opportunities?

[inner]

.....by also making not typerated guys (non paying people) impossible to get a chance.

[Raccatto]

What's the point ?

LINE TRAINING 500h on type > 250h on type Indonesian DGCA rule.

Maybe am i wrong?

Or when you are eligible to start a line there, , are they going to hire you for starting the 500 h ? ok,in this case things change.
bye.

[Feedmemore]

Look to buy 250h or more in Europe.

Then go to Indonesia, buy 500 hours or more.

Then come back to Europe and start a new line training as this is the law for each airline you will go....

This is what guys you don't want to understand, once you are out Of the airline you need to restart the whole line training process.

[TypeIV]

by also making not typerated guys (non paying people) impossible to get a chance.

They take $25-40k for the line training and they have more applicants than opportunities (rated guys), hence the constant increase in price for the LT. I don't see them taking any non rated + non paying guys in the foreseeable future for this reason mate.

This rule would make the industry more good than bad I would guess. The Indonesian P2F schemes are a cancer to the industry. The AB-initios even include the cost for TR+LT in their total training cost from day one nowadays, it's no longer a move of desperation, they count on having to do the LT+TR. That's how bad the situation is.

[pilotchute]

Guys,

The 250 hour thing is if you want to fly with a validation of your current licence. If your employer will organise an Indonesian licence then it is no problem to have less or no time on type at all.

[ROO-C26B]

Pilotchute,

Is there any chance you could direct me to the reference regarding the new 250 hrs on type requirement? I could not find it on the DGCA website.

Thanks,

Cheers.

[PilotWA123]

Pilotchute

I am interested to see the reference as well... Could not find anywhere..

[pilotchute]

That's from HR at Airfast for the DHC-6 jobs they advertised. I have turbine time but none on the Twotter so they can't validate my licence and they won't get you an Indonesian licence unless they think you will be around long term.

[Phenom100]

In the coming months i will starting with a well know carrier in Indonesia (not Lion) and i have NO time on type. So this may be just a Airfast restriction.

[jetjockey696]

if you are desperate... you can get indonesian license... pay for yourself.. 6500USD for endorsement the going rate...

[Phenom100]

I already have DGCA License and have flown in Indonesia for many years.