British Airways Future Pilot Programme.
I don't doubt that its made progress, but still has a long way to go. I was most concerned by this comment from Keith Williams
KW's comments are being made at a time when the company is deep in pay negotiations and frankly it is struggling to convince its employees to accept the RPI increase that is on offer ( I believe Unite rejected the latest offer about a month back). The CEO is well aware any announcement will be pounced on by the Unions and so he is hardly likely to say... "everything is wonderful, there's no pressure on the cost base". The CEOs/CFOs of all airlines have made (and will make) similar gloomy pronouncements when it suits them and I would not recommend making life and career changing decisions based on such statements.
IMHO the big risk/big threat for anyone joining BA isn't the company going broke, it's the fact that the pressure to drive costs down will erode T&C's, scheduling agreements, etc, down to the level of that seen at some of the LoCo's....
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G-FORC3...I was one of those lucky enough to be at Hounslow on the 16th December and to be offered a place on the FPP course! I went to Waterside on Wednesday 26th March...
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Fostex, based on some of the folk currently on the FPP, I don't think having too much ppl experience is necessarily a drawback.
Most of those who were successful won't have hundreds of hours already in the bag, probably not because it's frowned upon but because the vast majority of applicants won't have already done hundreds of hours of flying. There are certainly folk in the programme with hours running into the hundreds, or even an instructor rating, just not the majority.
Still, who knows.
Most of those who were successful won't have hundreds of hours already in the bag, probably not because it's frowned upon but because the vast majority of applicants won't have already done hundreds of hours of flying. There are certainly folk in the programme with hours running into the hundreds, or even an instructor rating, just not the majority.
Still, who knows.
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I second all congratulatory remarks to ALL who achieved in excelling so far into the process.
Out of interest, would anyone happen to have the 'numbers' of applicants and chosen cadets?
Thanks
Out of interest, would anyone happen to have the 'numbers' of applicants and chosen cadets?
Thanks
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Congrats to all who made it! I was one of the unlucky ones again. Having made it to the final stage 3 years in a row I had my hopes set pretty high this year so the fall hurt even more when I got the email. It's hard to not sit here thinking maybe I'm not cut out for the industry but I refuse to believe it. I've met a few pilots who took more than three times to get in, one who took 9 attempts! So all those who weren't successful don't give up.
I was there on the first day of CTC (11th) and had a great time with everyone and was a pleasure meeting everyone. All were a good bunch of lads. One in particular who had failed last year on maths alone I was wondering how you did??
I was there on the first day of CTC (11th) and had a great time with everyone and was a pleasure meeting everyone. All were a good bunch of lads. One in particular who had failed last year on maths alone I was wondering how you did??
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LPtP,
Don't be too disheartened about failing this time around. I was in your position last year, then rejected by easyJet but bounced back for a pass 2nd time around at Waterside. It's surprising how much of an advantage you have when you know the process at final stage.
I do share your concerns about the financial performance of BRitish Airways. Take easyJet at Gatwick, very tough competitor. Brand new planes (it's an indication of BAs financials that we can't commit to new frames at Gatwick), no pension deficit, flexible fares, fast track security, no alliance /lounge overheads, global distribution systems, free early home transfers. I was also concerned about the two airmanship incidents over the last year (hence my id) My take on it is that once your in, you can be part of and contribute to the success
I think the distinction behind legacy and "low cost" carriers will continue to become blurred. Both from a passenger and employee point of view. I don't expect at the end of my career to have the same terms as today, in all likelihood we will both meet in the middle.
Also, I love pprune but it's a distraction during the final stage. Focus on your own performance, not others..
Don't be too disheartened about failing this time around. I was in your position last year, then rejected by easyJet but bounced back for a pass 2nd time around at Waterside. It's surprising how much of an advantage you have when you know the process at final stage.
I do share your concerns about the financial performance of BRitish Airways. Take easyJet at Gatwick, very tough competitor. Brand new planes (it's an indication of BAs financials that we can't commit to new frames at Gatwick), no pension deficit, flexible fares, fast track security, no alliance /lounge overheads, global distribution systems, free early home transfers. I was also concerned about the two airmanship incidents over the last year (hence my id) My take on it is that once your in, you can be part of and contribute to the success
I think the distinction behind legacy and "low cost" carriers will continue to become blurred. Both from a passenger and employee point of view. I don't expect at the end of my career to have the same terms as today, in all likelihood we will both meet in the middle.
Also, I love pprune but it's a distraction during the final stage. Focus on your own performance, not others..
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No. I'm not expecting to hear anything until the end of the month at the earliest. I imagine it's quite a task for APL to co-ordinate the start dates for sixty-odd cadets in line with BA's requirements while also ensuring compliance with the available start dates at the three FTOs. 
Which FTO did you make it through Alleyesup?
Which FTO did you make it through Alleyesup?
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G-F0RC3 - I was sad enough to actually go through the posts from last year and work out the time from the decision being made to start dates being allocated. Last year it was around two weeks so hopefully we should find out later this week / early next week. That said there's two Bank Holidays in the way this year which may not have been there last year so I wouldn't be surprised if it took longer.
Does anyone know anything about the BA medical and how it differs from the Class 1?
Does anyone know anything about the BA medical and how it differs from the Class 1?
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The BA medical is pretty similar to a Class 1 renewal, it will only take about 30 mins and part of it is to talk about health risks that are common to pilots and ways to combat them.
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The BA medical is pretty similar to a Class 1 renewal, it will only take about 30 mins and part of it is to talk about health risks that are common to pilots and ways to combat them.
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***Oh wow, that's odd!! I'm thinking that maybe BA's HR teams are finding it difficult to track down and verify his/her references.
Whilst I'm here I'd like to congratulate the lucky (but well deserved) chosen few on gaining a place in this year FPP, Well done!!!
I'm guessing for the rest of us, it's time to keep busy and evaluate where it went wrong and to develop some more experiences and skills which would give us a better chance for next years stages. Best of luck aviators.
Whilst I'm here I'd like to congratulate the lucky (but well deserved) chosen few on gaining a place in this year FPP, Well done!!!
I'm guessing for the rest of us, it's time to keep busy and evaluate where it went wrong and to develop some more experiences and skills which would give us a better chance for next years stages. Best of luck aviators.