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Alexonaplane, you are being asked to pay a fee for assessment, why did you apply, if you could not afford that.
If you get through, you are going to have to find £85,000.00 for the course, plus £5,499 to OAA for your exams.
Not to mention uniform, CRP-5, Headset, etc etc
I would want to have at least £100,000.00 avaiable to pay for all that.
Professional Aviation has high price to join, if you gawp at £250.00 now, knowing you might have got selected when you applied then your are in for a very rude awakening. By not going, you have potentially taken the place off one one else who could have. No sympathy end of.
If you feel that British Airways are marketing this as a cadet program with little or no financing, then you have read the wrong website.
Best of luck
If you get through, you are going to have to find £85,000.00 for the course, plus £5,499 to OAA for your exams.
Not to mention uniform, CRP-5, Headset, etc etc
I would want to have at least £100,000.00 avaiable to pay for all that.
Professional Aviation has high price to join, if you gawp at £250.00 now, knowing you might have got selected when you applied then your are in for a very rude awakening. By not going, you have potentially taken the place off one one else who could have. No sympathy end of.
If you feel that British Airways are marketing this as a cadet program with little or no financing, then you have read the wrong website.
Best of luck
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FAO Alexonaplane
Hi Alex
Whilst your points have some level of validity, so do everyone elses. BA are advertising this as a route into commercial aviation for those that can't afford the huge lump sum required, but it is by no stretch a free lunch. As much as it pains you now, take your current financial situation as a necessary evil, preventing you from applying this year. Given BA' plans, you still have 2 years/chances, so don't be disheartened. You could argue that BA's plans may change and they pull the plug, but in that instance you should be grateful you're not mid-training because if they stop the programme, chances are the guys at the end will not be offered employment.
Instead, take the opportunity to start tucking away money. BA are giving guys a chance to train via the integrated route with three of the biggest, but a quick search and you'll find many modular schools (we'll not get into that debate) offering frozen ATPL for about half the price. BA also need assurances you are motivated by your career choice; sure, anyone can say they want it and come across well in interview, but the guy who's saving hard and making sacrifices to self fund comes across better!
The above have mentioned the scheme holds additional costs like food, equipment, insurances etc (each FTO price varies slightly), items which aren't part of training, more your own life and items you'd be paying for regardless! Like I said, chin up, and take what seems a massive blow as a kick in the behind to start showing your motivation. If you apply next year with 12 months savings and get in, problem solved. If you don't get in, you're still sitting on 12 months savings and are a step closer to making a dream reality! Food for thought
Whilst your points have some level of validity, so do everyone elses. BA are advertising this as a route into commercial aviation for those that can't afford the huge lump sum required, but it is by no stretch a free lunch. As much as it pains you now, take your current financial situation as a necessary evil, preventing you from applying this year. Given BA' plans, you still have 2 years/chances, so don't be disheartened. You could argue that BA's plans may change and they pull the plug, but in that instance you should be grateful you're not mid-training because if they stop the programme, chances are the guys at the end will not be offered employment.
Instead, take the opportunity to start tucking away money. BA are giving guys a chance to train via the integrated route with three of the biggest, but a quick search and you'll find many modular schools (we'll not get into that debate) offering frozen ATPL for about half the price. BA also need assurances you are motivated by your career choice; sure, anyone can say they want it and come across well in interview, but the guy who's saving hard and making sacrifices to self fund comes across better!
The above have mentioned the scheme holds additional costs like food, equipment, insurances etc (each FTO price varies slightly), items which aren't part of training, more your own life and items you'd be paying for regardless! Like I said, chin up, and take what seems a massive blow as a kick in the behind to start showing your motivation. If you apply next year with 12 months savings and get in, problem solved. If you don't get in, you're still sitting on 12 months savings and are a step closer to making a dream reality! Food for thought
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What a fantastic reply! Very positive.
Anyone have any good suggestions on how to get my maths skills in reference to aptitude tests upto scratch?
Thank you.
What a fantastic reply! Very positive.
Anyone have any good suggestions on how to get my maths skills in reference to aptitude tests upto scratch?
Thank you.
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Many thanks for the reply DAG I appreciate it 
Wondering if there's scope to hold my offer of second stage until next year. Does anyone know of anyone this has been an option for?
Wondering if there's scope to hold my offer of second stage until next year. Does anyone know of anyone this has been an option for?
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so what other costs are there leading up to the first paycheque from BA?
£250 admin fee for test
£6000 on exams
£??? uniform and headset? <-- will this not be given to you? Cheapskates!
£18 months of accomodation
Anything else?
£250 admin fee for test
£6000 on exams
£??? uniform and headset? <-- will this not be given to you? Cheapskates!
£18 months of accomodation
Anything else?
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With OAA your forgot the visa to live in the US , the flights to the US , accommodation in the US (I think) , food , transport ...... Same with CTC and New Zealand , Price to pay for dream career I guess , should of looked into the flight schools more FTE was the overall best choice for me anyway
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7th - 25th January, from the look of it. Variable start times too. Given the proximity to Heathrow and some of the start times, it looks very possible to fly in and out on the same day, assuming you're based in (or near) the UK with commuter flights.
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Got nothing yet from FTE and now is weekend so i guess i have to wait until next week to see if i get any email! Hopefully they havent contacted everyone yet.
By the way, does anyone know if they contact to even if u have been refused?
Sorry for the mispellings but i am writing with a iphone
Thanks
By the way, does anyone know if they contact to even if u have been refused?
Sorry for the mispellings but i am writing with a iphone
Thanks
Alex
Be careful, it only takes another major nose dive in the economy or a major event on a par with 911, and there might not be an FPP run next year. If you are really interested in the scheme I'd find some way of getting the finances together.
I should of saved my application for next year when I might have a bit more money. So frustrating
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Regarding supplementary costs, it was all very clear what I would have to find on top of the security bond and top-up fees when I applied last year. I would be surprised if it was less so this time around.
Note I can only speak about those at OAA.
Speaking basically, the only expenses one will incur are:
Food (although full board is apparently provided in Pheonix)
Leisure - Could be beer monies, Vegas chips, travel, etc.. Whatever you do that makes you happy...
The costs involved with the lead up to the training are:
EASA Class 1 medical. Initials must be taken at Gatwick. Successful candidates may be able to get renewals from BA AME's;
Any costs involved in raising the capital. Any borrowing will no doubt incur some form of arrangement fee, as well as the cost of borrowing itself;
Life insurance;
Loss of training expenses insurance covering the loss of medical certificate;
The cost of undertaking selection at the school (£250 at Oxford this year);
Costs associated with attending selection - train tickets, hotels as required. Not these are always the responsibility of the candidate.
Everything required for the completion of training is included in the sponsorship or the top-up fees. To be clear that means:
Uniform
Study materials
CRP5
Various other sundries
I just thought I'd try and clarify some of the red herring that seem to be emerging about costs. The idea of the scheme being accessible to all is more than simply a slogan on the website. Credit status notwithstanding, there is little to stand in the way of successful candidates from being able to accept the deal, financially speaking. Whether or not one wishes to commit such a large bond is, of course, a personal choice, however.
@Mike91: Read the instructions and take your time. Ensure you understand what is being asked you in each of the tasks.
Note I can only speak about those at OAA.
Speaking basically, the only expenses one will incur are:
Food (although full board is apparently provided in Pheonix)
Leisure - Could be beer monies, Vegas chips, travel, etc.. Whatever you do that makes you happy...
The costs involved with the lead up to the training are:
EASA Class 1 medical. Initials must be taken at Gatwick. Successful candidates may be able to get renewals from BA AME's;
Any costs involved in raising the capital. Any borrowing will no doubt incur some form of arrangement fee, as well as the cost of borrowing itself;
Life insurance;
Loss of training expenses insurance covering the loss of medical certificate;
The cost of undertaking selection at the school (£250 at Oxford this year);
Costs associated with attending selection - train tickets, hotels as required. Not these are always the responsibility of the candidate.
Everything required for the completion of training is included in the sponsorship or the top-up fees. To be clear that means:
Uniform
Study materials
CRP5
Various other sundries
I just thought I'd try and clarify some of the red herring that seem to be emerging about costs. The idea of the scheme being accessible to all is more than simply a slogan on the website. Credit status notwithstanding, there is little to stand in the way of successful candidates from being able to accept the deal, financially speaking. Whether or not one wishes to commit such a large bond is, of course, a personal choice, however.
@Mike91: Read the instructions and take your time. Ensure you understand what is being asked you in each of the tasks.
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By the way, does anyone know if they contact to even if u have been refused?
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Thank you so much.
I will keep my hopes up until either one of the two emails is in my inbox.
Sorry for not been accepted. There are more years that will be BA FPP keep trying man, I will even if I get refused.
I will keep my hopes up until either one of the two emails is in my inbox.
Sorry for not been accepted. There are more years that will be BA FPP keep trying man, I will even if I get refused.
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Hi fellas, could someone who has been through the process last year with FTE tell me, do they ask question on the assessment day specifically to do with the written application that you send them in the initial stage (i.e. the answers to the written questions)? Just curious if they will ask "why have you given this answer to that question?"
Or are these initial application forms now irrelevant to them? Will they still count for the rest of the application process or basically everyone who gets through to the assessment stage starts with a clean sheet?
Hope that makes sense. Thanks.
Or are these initial application forms now irrelevant to them? Will they still count for the rest of the application process or basically everyone who gets through to the assessment stage starts with a clean sheet?
Hope that makes sense. Thanks.