British Airways Future Pilot Programme.

[LandingConfig]

Perhaps it was a stroke of bad luck this year that it was different people reviewing the applications?

[funkyt111]

I agree with Landingconfig, you must just be unlucky. I applied in 2012 and in 2013 and made it to the final stages on both occasions. My biggest worry this year was not being invited to the initial assessment especially since this is the last application I can make so I understand exactly how you guys must feel.

[kirungi1]

polar25 & Cmab7; I sympathyse with your plight but Funky111 argues and correlates well via post #2816. Did any of you apply through Oxford or CTC?
Funky111, were all your previous attempts made through FTE?

[Officer Kite]

My understanding of what BA and the schools have always said is that the school you apply to is irrelevant when it comes to getting past the first hurdles, with it not being a case of FTE get X amount, CTC get Y and OAA getting Z amount. Rather the amount of people getting through to each FTO's assessments is solely based on the quality of applications to a particular school.

[funkyt111]

@kirungi1

Yeah all my previous attempts with were with FTE.

[kirungi1]

Officer Kite; I would doubt the aspect of "quality of the application" alone , bearing the plights of polar25 and Cmab7. Surely, Funky111 could have a point worth exploring.

[Officer Kite]

That is true Kirungi, but I suspect that could come down to whoever the individual in BA or the FTO was who saw it, but overall the aim isn't to send a set amount to each FTO. Rather only the "perceived" best out of all applicants are put forward.

[funkyt111]

Lets say for example OAA receive 1500 applications and CTC receive 1000 applications and FTE receive 750 Applications. Although BA say that each school considers each application purely on it's quality, realistically if all of Oxford's applications were fantastic they couldn't invite all 1500. So in reality, you have a better chance with FTE than with any of the other two schools. Also, I know for sure that each school can only send X amount of candidates through to the final stage so therefore your competing against less candidates with FTE. I wouldn't encourage people to try and play the system though and choose a school based on what you think is right for you.

[kirungi1]

Funky111 & Officer Kite; thank you and good luck this year and always

[Officer Kite]

I agree that playing the system is not a good way to approach this. I can only go on what the schools have told me directly, and CTC in particular made a point of highlighting to me that the school I applied to would be irrelevant as BA want the best out of all who apply, not the best out of each individual school. I don't think we're ever gonna find a definitive answer to this so it's probably best to focus on others things. Good luck to all !

[kirungi1]

Absolutely Officer Kite, but I think Funky111 highlights the fact that some potentially good candidates don't stand a chance at the "other two" because numbers have to be crunched! Your final reaction

[Officer Kite]

I think I'm being misunderstood. I agree with funky and it would seem logical that if most applied to OAA for example, there would have to be a serious cull of applications meaning you would stand less chance. That is logical in that sense, however when I look at the wider picture and the fact that BA are out to get the best, it doesn't make sense for them to go about the selection in this manner as they would potentially cut out some very good applicants with applicants of slightly lesser quality making it through in a different FTO simply because there were less numbers at their chosen FTO. BA say that isn't how they go about it and CTC have also told me it isn't what they do so I really don't know what the truth is as there are only so many days for which OAA can run selection meaning some good quality will be cut out.

All in all, I don't think BA would settle for lesser quality and those who make it through at Waterside would not have done so based on luck and the numbers that applied to their particular school.

Now I think it's best this argument was put to bed, it pops up every year

[funkyt111]

Officer Kite,

I understand what your saying but stats don't lie. It's no surprise that at the final stage, only a very small amount of candidates from FTE are successful. I think it was 6/7 last year out 48 successful candidates.

[kirungi1]

Thanks to both of you and good luck once again. You plead your cases so well; If only you would carry that enthusiasm to the FTOs & BA for the interviews - somehow one would forget what you're arguing but rather how.

[Officer Kite]

Thank you Kirungi, I think I may consider becoming a lawyer if I don't get on a pilot programme this year

[G-F0RC3]

...only a very small amount of candidates from FTE are successful. I think it was 6/7 last year out 48 successful candidates.

There are 12 FPP3 cadets training at FTE.

[funkyt111]

...only a very small amount of candidates from FTE are successful. I think it was 6/7 last year out 48 successful candidates.
There are 12 FPP3 cadets training at FTE.

I stand corrected. Thanks mate.

[RAM787]

Hi David, I'm French and live in Paris too if you wanna meet and talk about the programme (my assessment day is on April 7th).

[ShaunLanc]

Quick question regarding the aptitude tests for CTC; are you required to pass them all or is an average taken?

I've been practising my maths quite extensively however still not 100% confident, so I'm wondering if I did better in the other parts would that balance out?

I know they still interview you if you haven't passed the aptitude tests, but would this mean if you gave a brilliant interview there may be some leeway? Or is there a definite cut off?

Cheers

[funkyt111]

@ShaunLanc,

You have to pass every element of the assesment process in order to be considered for the final stage.