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British Airways Future Pilot Programme.

Old 1st Sep 2014, 22:57
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Old 15th Sep 2014, 09:44
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Once your application has been assessed and accepted, you will progress to Phase II of the selection process. Phase II consists of a series of questions that you will be required to answer within a given time. If successful you will progress to Phase III which is an assessment day at a venue (soon to be confirmed) in London, UK, which includes the following tests:
By this they do not mean an hour or two. They normally give you a few days to respond. So do take your time, but get it done.
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Old 15th Sep 2014, 10:10
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If the past two years are anything to go by, I can only imagine it will open up in November.
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Old 16th Sep 2014, 11:54
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Hello All!


Just a quick question for those of you who have been successful in the past in getting onto the FPP: have any of you taken up the BA guaranteed loan option? I am going to apply this year and was interested in the financing options available.


My credit rating is far from rosy and I am unsure as to what criteria BA's nominated bank would be looking at (whether they want a 'good' credit rating or purely no CCJs etc.)?


Any info would be much appreciated!


Thanks
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Old 16th Sep 2014, 12:49
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polar25,

The way it worked for us, you had to provide a copy of your full Experian credit report to BBVA. Incidentally, it had to be from Experian, rather than any other credit report agency.

When I got mine, it initially had a lot of stuff missing, giving me a 'Fair' rating, which I got the impression would not have been acceptable to BBVA (they stated that really it should be in the green ranges, 'Good' or 'Excellent'). After speaking to Experian, all my details were properly updated and it thankfully increased to a far higher score.

I'm not sure what anyone else's experience was, but they seemed to expect a good to excellent rating at the time we were applying. I'd expect that that position is unlikely to have changed, but who knows. You do at least get to speak with an individual at BBVA about it, not just having it fired through a computer, so maybe there's room for discussing extenuating circumstances? Who knows.
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Old 16th Sep 2014, 13:30
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You also have a long period of time to work on your credit rating between now and when you will have to submit an application to BBVA. There is a massive amount to get through between now and then as well. I would suggest you sign up to Experian and get your credit score/rating. You will learn a lot just from this. Then use the tools that Experian membership gives you to improve your rating over the next 9 months or so.
At the moment you dont know what you dont know... So if Credit Rating is worrying you find out what it is... you might be surprised.
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Old 1st Oct 2014, 15:53
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Many thanks MaydayMaydayMayday and speedbird_cadet for your replies. I have emailed BBVA but as yet have got no reply; this is my only means of being able to finance the scheme (should I be successful) and would just like some clarification so that I don't end up taking the place of someone in a better financial position.
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Old 2nd Oct 2014, 14:36
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All the FPP courses are starting around now, so BBVA are incredibly busy - they probably just haven't had time to look into your query.
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Old 11th Oct 2014, 19:31
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When does the application window for the Future Pilot Programme start this year? The BA website states:

"We can now advise that in line with British Airways’ future requirements for new cadet entry, we expect the next round of FPP to launch sometime in 2015. We will bring you news of any further announcements as soon as they become available."

Does it mean that there will be no application window in November 2014?
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Old 12th Oct 2014, 12:41
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Application will open early next year as at the moment BA HR are focusing on the DEP as they are quite short. Most people wait years for an opportunity like this, I'm sure everyone else who is serious can wait a few more months.
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Old 13th Oct 2014, 12:26
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Great, that probably means there will probably only be two more opportunities to get into FPP
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Old 13th Oct 2014, 14:29
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I find this interesting and indeed quite relevant to my particular situation (and perhaps those of others), because:

- Candidates are only allowed to apply three times anyway, so (having applied last year), two further opportunities would be all that I (and any previous applicant) would be allowed anyway.

- I chose to resit the team exercise and interview with OAA in June, after which I could not then take further resits or re-apply to OAA for 12 months. Happily this does not appear to apply to applications for the FPP.

- I am currently rather busy (studying for an OU degree), so I actually welcome the opportunity to defer until after the Christmas break, during which I (and others who may be busy with "life") can get the preparatory work for the application sorted in advance of applications actually opening. Think about why you want to fly, why with BA and what you can bring, as well as getting all of the fundamentals (employment history, qualifications etc.) in order.

- More time is always good! So far this year, in a bid to gain a greater understanding of BA as a a company and prospective employer, I've arranged a tour of the Heritage Collection and Waterside building, spent time observing BA operations and general movements at Gatwick and Heathrow, booked a flight on a BA 787 and visited five of the British Concordes (AA, AB, AC, ST, DN), as well as reading a great deal on BA, oneworld and their aircraft. Before attending selection for the next FPP I was hoping actually to take my 787 flight, and to visit London City and at least a further four Concordes (AD, AE, DG, FA - well aware I've passed the point of decreasing returns, but this has now become a genuine interest and a personal challenge to see them all), as well as having a go on BA's 737 simulator and the Concorde sim at Brooklands - I am grateful to have more time to organise these visits.

P.S. I'm well aware that there are other considerations, on which I am also working, but I will not be getting knocked back on a lack of BA-centric enthusiasm and/or knowledge again, that's for sure.

P.P.S. I have read back the above and am aware it may be taken as a little self-indulgent. Still, I hope it may help or give ideas to other potential candidates. Alternatively, it may be waffle, in which case I am sure I will be corrected if off down the wrong track and I am grateful for the feedback.

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Old 14th Oct 2014, 14:20
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Great, that probably means there will probably only be two more opportunities to get into FPP
What makes you say that? I know it was stated way back in 2011 that it'd run for 5 years, but if you assume BA is going to continue to need pilots (retirements are on the horizon + growth), then there's no reason to stop. Cadets are cheap Maybe it'll be scaled back, with fewer lucky people selected or run less frequently, but I don't see why it'd would stop completely.

The delay to next year is quite good IMO. With the current uncertainty around BA SH and the business review, at least we might know what position/terms we're applying to by next year...
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 08:40
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Hello,

I have an FAA Commercial Pilot License and was wondering if I could still apply. It doesn't say so on BA's website, it just says you can't have taken the ATP exams. I know a JAA CPL is disqualifying, but I don't know about an FAA CPL.

My other concern is that I now have a little over 300 hours of flight time and will probably have around 500 by the time I apply in 2015 (I have a job flying small aeroplanes here in the US). I know this is a cadet programme and am aware that I'm not the ideal candidate (I've been through the entire selection process already) but would still like to know if anybody has heard of someone getting accepted with the same kind of flight experience.

Thank you very much.
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Old 17th Jan 2015, 15:48
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Speedybird have you a UK or EU passport? otherwise this could be a big problem working in Uk and Europe
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Old 18th Jan 2015, 11:34
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If you mean previous flying experience then you can't hold anything above a PPL but there are people with over a hundred hours and others with only a few to their name. As with most airline cadet schemes your number of flying hours is largely irrelevant. Your interpersonal skills are far more important.
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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 22:14
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Happened to be reading through the BA LinkedIn page earlier and it claims FPP will open 23rd Feb Let the madness begin....
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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 23:49
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British Airways Future Pilot Programme.

Just a quick question, had anybody on here been through the general 'Wings' programme? And has been fortunate enough to land a spot with BA without going through the FPP?
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Old 23rd Jan 2015, 00:28
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Owu96, I think there were a handful who came in from CTC who'd been through the 'wings' course (6, perhaps?) last year, although after having then gone through the BA assessments. It's not something I would bank on, though, and may have been a bit of a one-off anomaly when there was a sudden need for a handful of extra cadets.

Particularly considering the number of cadets and DEPs coming in over the next couple of years, the two clear routes in are through the FPP or as a DEP after a good few hundred hours at another carrier. Whichever route, you still need to pass the same assessments. You'd also benefit from (potentially) a guaranteed loan if you required it, from the point of being accepted.

In short, while not impossible, it's improbable that the 'wings' course would lead to a quick entry into BA. Far more likely to end up elsewhere initially.

Good luck if you're applying.
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Old 23rd Jan 2015, 01:56
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Owu96

As Mayday says there were 5 lucky wings trainees who were employed by BA. I hate the way CTC use the word 'placed'. They weren't placed at all, BA asked for applicants from CTC, they applied and each got the job on their own merits.

This whole top-up to the FPP thing is used as a marketing tool by CTC to lure potential people into the wings programme who may be umming and arring about waiting for a tagged program. What I imagine has happened is due to the increase in number of tagged programmes, applicant numbers for their wings course is down so they pedal this to get the punters in.

It's safe to assume that they only way into BA is through the FPP or as a DEP/ex-forces, anything else and you've got lucky.
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