Flybe/PTC 2012 Part Sponsorship
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I was more referring to what the sponsorship amounts to. The cost of the MPL is generally similar to the traditional fATPL at integrated schools and seeing as it's a tagged course the scheme of training is largely irrelevant. You're applying to end up flying for flybe regardless of what licence you get prior to the magic 1500 hours. That said, the site doesn't even give away whether or not it's CPL/IR or MPL, so don't assume.
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This may be a silly question...If I took compass tests with PTC would my result be stored with PTC or on the compass software itself - meaning I couldn't retake the test for a year (thats generally the rule, correct?) whether it be at PTC for flybe or at Oxford for the FPP in August/September 2012 or FTE for xyz airlines mentored scheme (for example)... I know the RAF aptitude computers store all your data and know when you last took the test?
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Trying to do bit of research on this programme and info seems limited.
Can anyone tell me what sort of licence you will get if you were to get into this programme and will you be guaranteed a job?
Also its says part-sponsered on theflybe website..anybody any idea how much and pTC usually finance usually works?
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Can anyone tell me what sort of licence you will get if you were to get into this programme and will you be guaranteed a job?
Also its says part-sponsered on theflybe website..anybody any idea how much and pTC usually finance usually works?
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The licence is a CPL/IR (frozen ATPL if you prefer), and the sponsorship amounts to an upfront contribution of £19,800 towards the total cost of the course. However, the 'sponsorship' is in reality an interest free loan, with payment deferred until commencing employment with Flybe, repaid over 5 years from salary.
There is no cast iron, 100% guarantee of employment, but sponsored cadets are always given priority during airline recruitment & Flybe have consistently been able to employ all their sponsored cadets over the last few years despite the very poor jobs market.
There is no cast iron, 100% guarantee of employment, but sponsored cadets are always given priority during airline recruitment & Flybe have consistently been able to employ all their sponsored cadets over the last few years despite the very poor jobs market.
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many thanks for the reply otto - that clears all that up rather quickly 
can I ask where you got all the info?
does this not sound like a rather good opportunity in sponsered scheme terms..similar to the recent BA scheme bar the £20k upfront cost?
just wondering whats the catch/the reason why people on the prun here havnt been going crazy talking about it like they usually do!?
can I ask where you got all the info?does this not sound like a rather good opportunity in sponsered scheme terms..similar to the recent BA scheme bar the £20k upfront cost?
just wondering whats the catch/the reason why people on the prun here havnt been going crazy talking about it like they usually do!?
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cheers deano for the reply..just seems like theres not much interest on it at the minute which makes me question why.
anyone know what a cadet pilot salary starts on? Found the direct entry salary being around £26K which aint that much.
anyone know what a cadet pilot salary starts on? Found the direct entry salary being around £26K which aint that much.
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£26k isn't that much, but a few points on the salary:
You'll still be the highest paid turbo prop F/O in the country compared to other companies.
After year 1 your salary will jump at least £3k p/a
You get nice increments per annum there after.
After a few years with the company you'll live comfortably on the salary.
Your real term debt should be manageable compared to other "integrated" courses.
As for Flybe:
You get paid from day one of employment.
You do not pay for your type rating like you would with CTC etc.
You get paid expenses during training.
We still get crew food (some like it, some don't)
You get a company pension
Reasonable time to command if you're willing to move.
Job is almost as secure as it can get.
Good career prospects with lots of jets arriving.
Good flying
Great people.
There's loads more to list, but that should keep you going for now
You'll still be the highest paid turbo prop F/O in the country compared to other companies.
After year 1 your salary will jump at least £3k p/a
You get nice increments per annum there after.
After a few years with the company you'll live comfortably on the salary.
Your real term debt should be manageable compared to other "integrated" courses.
As for Flybe:
You get paid from day one of employment.
You do not pay for your type rating like you would with CTC etc.
You get paid expenses during training.
We still get crew food (some like it, some don't)
You get a company pension
Reasonable time to command if you're willing to move.
Job is almost as secure as it can get.
Good career prospects with lots of jets arriving.
Good flying
Great people.
There's loads more to list, but that should keep you going for now
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would you be a employee of flybe deano?
when you put it into that context then yes it sounds very reasonable compared to other courses.
and to be honest if they could guarantee you a job after training I could live with the pay for a few years! whats the chances in your opinion of not getting a job offer upon completion of your licence (lets assume one would get onto the training course to start with)
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when you put it into that context then yes it sounds very reasonable compared to other courses.
and to be honest if they could guarantee you a job after training I could live with the pay for a few years! whats the chances in your opinion of not getting a job offer upon completion of your licence (lets assume one would get onto the training course to start with)
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I do work for them of course, but I tell it like it is. It isn't all singing and dancing inside Flybe, we have our gripes and issues, but if you compare it to what is open to wannabes today then it is almost unbeatable.
The reason why it is not talked about too much on here is probably down to a bit of snobbery where wannabes just want to fly jets regardless of the terms & conditions.
I cannot see them ever not taking on a sponsored cadet. I have never known it in the past where they have failed to take one on at the end of the course. Infact during the worse recession in living memory the company honoured all the cadet employment over and above the main hold pool. The caveat of course is that you come up to scratch during training and during the type conversion. If not then you are leaving yourself open to not being taken on.
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Nothing official from inside but in my humble opinion (& only my opinion) we're going to have to recruit sooner rather than later. We're already running low on F/Os and there's still a fair few who are either working their notices or they're in hold pools waiting for a start date (mainly BA).
I do work for them of course, but I tell it like it is. It isn't all singing and dancing inside Flybe, we have our gripes and issues, but if you compare it to what is open to wannabes today then it is almost unbeatable.
The reason why it is not talked about too much on here is probably down to a bit of snobbery where wannabes just want to fly jets regardless of the terms & conditions.
I cannot see them ever not taking on a sponsored cadet. I have never known it in the past where they have failed to take one on at the end of the course. Infact during the worse recession in living memory the company honoured all the cadet employment over and above the main hold pool. The caveat of course is that you come up to scratch during training and during the type conversion. If not then you are leaving yourself open to not being taken on.
turbine100
Nothing official from inside but in my humble opinion (& only my opinion) we're going to have to recruit sooner rather than later. We're already running low on F/Os and there's still a fair few who are either working their notices or they're in hold pools waiting for a start date (mainly BA).
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Originally Posted by ljm10
does this not sound like a rather good opportunity in sponsered scheme terms..similar to the recent BA scheme bar the £20k upfront cost?
just wondering whats the catch/the reason why people on the prun here havnt been going crazy talking about it like they usually do!?.
just wondering whats the catch/the reason why people on the prun here havnt been going crazy talking about it like they usually do!?.
There is no catch, it's a good scheme - so long as you have the money/assets to fund it should you get the gig.
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deano - yes I understand competely. Can I ask how you have come through to the position you are in today?
berksflyer - yes I did not realise you would have to secure the rest after putting up the initial £20K. That rules it out for me unfortunately
thanks all for your info
berksflyer - yes I did not realise you would have to secure the rest after putting up the initial £20K. That rules it out for me unfortunately
thanks all for your info
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Interesting to see that, unlike the recently launched Jerez FTE MPL intake, PTC will be charging a fairly typical assessment fee should candidates be invited to selection at Waterford. I wonder how they justify that?
Also interesting that FlyBe will be running this CLP/IR course intake, in contrast to the aforementioned MPL scheme.
Good Luck.
Also interesting that FlyBe will be running this CLP/IR course intake, in contrast to the aforementioned MPL scheme.
Good Luck.
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This scheme has caught my eye, however I am a little curious as to what they are looking for? I'm currently an undergraduate studying for an aviation related degree whilst doing my PPL in my first year and then going on to do my ATPL and all the bells and whistles that come with that in my 2nd and 3rd years. Is one supposed to start from scratch or is prior experience a bonus?
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ljm10
Of course you can ask, check your PMs
flyingfox320
As far as I am aware it isn't open to you if you already have the MCC etc, but don't quote me on it. I think you have to be zero hours because basically it's a full time conversion to CPL/IR. No harm in enquiring though.
Of course you can ask, check your PMs
flyingfox320
As far as I am aware it isn't open to you if you already have the MCC etc, but don't quote me on it. I think you have to be zero hours because basically it's a full time conversion to CPL/IR. No harm in enquiring though.