Easyjet New Ab-initio scheme :)
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flyingeagle21: "I find it hard to believe OAA and easyJet would do you over and not offer you a job."
Really? If they need you and you meet the std then fine, but if the Euro goes downhill (56% of EZY biz is EU) can you blame them for making you redundant in 2012/13? Wake up - they are a business not a charity!
"I know a few people fresh out off Oxford on the bog standard pay your way integrated course -£85k"
2008: EZY/CTC cadets had £120k debts and were made redundant after 6 months then told not allowed to apply to Aer Lingus whilst working in bars, just in case EZY wanted them back!
"the only way to get a job now is to get a ~£30k type rating"
Rubbish! That is what the schools are selling you!
There are instructing jobs in the UK that pay £45k now because there are so few decent candidates!
Look to the future - (under 40?) you are young enough! Go and get some experience elsewhere - try abroad, but don't dig yourselves into a hole you can't walk out of!
If you want change for the better then work together! What if all new wanabees boycotted MPL/TRSS/P2F(post frozen ATPL) as a group of young pilots (maybe get GAPAN or a union involved, set up your own wanabee union, camp outside EZY Luton HQ/OAA/CTC, get a petition going on No.10 govt website, the CAA etc ), Ts&Cs really could be improved!
Really? If they need you and you meet the std then fine, but if the Euro goes downhill (56% of EZY biz is EU) can you blame them for making you redundant in 2012/13? Wake up - they are a business not a charity!
"I know a few people fresh out off Oxford on the bog standard pay your way integrated course -£85k"
2008: EZY/CTC cadets had £120k debts and were made redundant after 6 months then told not allowed to apply to Aer Lingus whilst working in bars, just in case EZY wanted them back!
"the only way to get a job now is to get a ~£30k type rating"
Rubbish! That is what the schools are selling you!
There are instructing jobs in the UK that pay £45k now because there are so few decent candidates!
Look to the future - (under 40?) you are young enough! Go and get some experience elsewhere - try abroad, but don't dig yourselves into a hole you can't walk out of!
If you want change for the better then work together! What if all new wanabees boycotted MPL/TRSS/P2F(post frozen ATPL) as a group of young pilots (maybe get GAPAN or a union involved, set up your own wanabee union, camp outside EZY Luton HQ/OAA/CTC, get a petition going on No.10 govt website, the CAA etc ), Ts&Cs really could be improved!
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I've also decided against attending an assessment as I'm still not sure about the MPL. It seems like a great idea at first, however on reconsideration I don't think it's for me. Reading other comments on here shows I'm not the only one. I wonder how many they will have attending the assessment days?
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From what I have been told, The contract states Guaranteed £46,000 plus overtime which put them close to £56,000 on their first year..
Plus the tax free loan payments and can claim tax return on travel (bus, train etc)
Plus the tax free loan payments and can claim tax return on travel (bus, train etc)
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The contract is for 2 years and guaranteed ATPL within that 2 years. Pay minimum of £46,000 upto £56,000 plus tax free repayment. You don't have to stay in OAA acomodation and the rent can be low as £350 a month.
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From what I know:
Easyjet A320 type rating included was £81-£86,000
Does not have to be OAA accomodation (so cheaper)
Contracted for 2 years and guarantee of ATPL within the 2 years
Starting salary of £46,000 plus over time adding upto £56,000.
Tax free loan payment.
Whole training done in UK.
Easyjet A320 type rating included was £81-£86,000
Does not have to be OAA accomodation (so cheaper)
Contracted for 2 years and guarantee of ATPL within the 2 years
Starting salary of £46,000 plus over time adding upto £56,000.
Tax free loan payment.
Whole training done in UK.
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I think those on here who seem to be motivated primarily by money should reconsider your career options. If you don't have a love of flying as your FIRST motivating driver, you will be very unhappy. Not only during your training, but whilst on-line. I've seen it toooooooo many times. If working in a profession with all it entails comes second to the money comparisons, look elsewhere.
Yes you should be remunerated for doing a professional job, discharged in a professional way. However you will struggle to do this when all the crew room, flight deck, and FTO banter is driven by money worries and comparisons to your peers. Get yourself in the door and do your time, then start worrying about the money. Or become a ****** banker. Both leave you feeing knackered, worn out and close to alcohol dependency. One will pay a hell of a lot more and you can spend Xmas with the kids. The other is the most thrilling profession(in my opinion) out there that enables you to meet and work with some fantastic people. Both options will treat you like dirt to get their 'pound of flesh'. You DO need to be able to put up with a lot of Cr3p in both, but one has a far better LONG term proposition.
It ain't the 60s or 80s anymore. The world is driven by money grabbers, that includes airlines and Flight schools. Most have lost any family feel or soul they used to have. Some airlines will treat you with a modicum of respect. Others will not.
Yes you should be remunerated for doing a professional job, discharged in a professional way. However you will struggle to do this when all the crew room, flight deck, and FTO banter is driven by money worries and comparisons to your peers. Get yourself in the door and do your time, then start worrying about the money. Or become a ****** banker. Both leave you feeing knackered, worn out and close to alcohol dependency. One will pay a hell of a lot more and you can spend Xmas with the kids. The other is the most thrilling profession(in my opinion) out there that enables you to meet and work with some fantastic people. Both options will treat you like dirt to get their 'pound of flesh'. You DO need to be able to put up with a lot of Cr3p in both, but one has a far better LONG term proposition.
It ain't the 60s or 80s anymore. The world is driven by money grabbers, that includes airlines and Flight schools. Most have lost any family feel or soul they used to have. Some airlines will treat you with a modicum of respect. Others will not.
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I understand that no one from easyjet was there at the final interview stage. Shows how little of a damn they give I suppose. 2 BA pilots interviewing for OAA instead I heard?? Well in reality it is a parc scheme. Ie you pay a hell of a lot to be a parc contractor for EZY. My goodness.
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Couldn't agree with BUGS/BEARINGS/BOXES more regarding people joining the industry for the money. Ironically these same people are the first to consider easy (for example) as a stepping stone and run off to a legacy carrier at the first chance. Only to be based at one of two awful London airports and paying twice as much in living costs/rent/mortgage. Despite being motivated by cash, their math seems to fall down when BA start recruiting.
But I digress...
But I digress...