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I know that technically there should be equal chances for all EU residents but in practice would an English guy have the odds stacked against him when applying for this? Just curious!
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Originally Posted by Mike.
I know that technically there should be equal chances for all EU residents but in practice would an English guy have the odds stacked against him when applying for this? Just curious!
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Cadet Program 2017?
Hi,
I would love to try for the cadet program but I would like to get a degree first. So I am wondering how often AerLingus offer the cadet scheme?
Thanks,
Adam
I would love to try for the cadet program but I would like to get a degree first. So I am wondering how often AerLingus offer the cadet scheme?
Thanks,
Adam
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Adam,
No-one really knows but they are looking for people mid-way through third level education or graduates so you're best bet is to do the degree and that will stand you in good stead should they advertise again.
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No-one really knows but they are looking for people mid-way through third level education or graduates so you're best bet is to do the degree and that will stand you in good stead should they advertise again.
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Originally Posted by skyways1452
No-one really knows but they are looking for people mid-way through third level education or graduates so you're best bet is to do the degree and that will stand you in good stead should they advertise again.
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They do not say you need a degree. It says third level studies. The reason for this is you are showing them that you can study as the 14 months of training is intensive. A hell of a lot of ground studies with practical flying. Trust me! :-)
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Do you not think in this day and age it is pretty unrealistic for them to ask for a degree. The cost of Flight school alone is $$$$$$$$$$$ and with university fees going up. Im 17 and all of my friends will be going into university this time next year. I have had to seriously consider whether it is beneficial for me to do a degree and to be honest it is not! It is what 3/4 years of paying up to 6k a year, plus living costs etc. Its alright for people in the south (I actually thinking the southern system regarding University is brilliant!) but for us up north it is just unrealistic!
Plus im doing A-levels in Physics, Maths, ICT andTechnology. They are hard! Do you not think that shows enough commitment and ability to complete the course, (which I know will be very hard and intense).
Plus im doing A-levels in Physics, Maths, ICT andTechnology. They are hard! Do you not think that shows enough commitment and ability to complete the course, (which I know will be very hard and intense).
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loughrey1: How is the system different? As far as I'm aware all uni applications in the UK are done through UCAS....
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loughrey1: How is the system different? As far as I'm aware all uni applications in the UK are done through UCAS....
Southern Ireland is the Republic - so isn't part of the UK and thus has it's own system, which I'm assuming isn't as high student fees? Although even Scotland has much cheaper fees and a different system than England, Northern Ireland and Wales.
I agree with Loughrey1 though, It'll be about £12-15,000 a year for 3/4 years at uni to get a degree, and then an extra £70,000 for flight training afterwards? You're left starting at Aer Lingus with about £70,000 loans to pay back, plus an extra £60,000 you've got to start paying back in uni fees!
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Southern Ireland is the Republic - so isn't part of the UK and thus has it's own system, which I'm assuming isn't as high student fees? Although even Scotland has much cheaper fees and a different system than England, Northern Ireland and Wales.
I think he was just making the point that UCAS points are used to calculate the CAO points equivilant for students in the UK applying for college courses in Ireland.
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what happens if get u selected and they make you fund 60-80 % of the training and you don't have the money? it's bad that they don't present the sum on the application page otherwise you might end up in deep s**t
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How would you end up in deep sh*t? If you have to get a loan, you'd only do that after being offered the job (by which time you'd know the final cost). The reason they can't give the sum now is because they're still negotiating with flight schools on prices.
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I guess the best we can hope for regarding personal funding is that the word 'partial' means just that. I do agree its a little vague as to how much they are willing to stump up. It may be the case that they have not decided yet (which i find doubtful). I guess as many have said the only way is to apply and see what happens.
Best of luck to you all
Best of luck to you all
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Aghast
Are EI out of their tiny little minds, how can this company, who are screaming for cost cutting, justify paying for Cadet training, when there are 100's of trained, jobless, deemed competent, fully qualified Pilots out there screaming for these positions. It beggars belief.
PS: I am not, have not applied to be, dont want to be an EI Pilot.
PS: I am not, have not applied to be, dont want to be an EI Pilot.
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i have to agree with you 'oldchinahand' i cant understand it either especially when they are trying to cut costs, and there are so many jobless A320 pilots out dare, you would wonder why they are doing this, anybody any ideas.??
Best of luck to anybody applying..
Best of luck to anybody applying..
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I totally agree with you OldChinaHand.
And please correct me if I´m wrong, but my understanding of their webpage is this €100,000 part-funded is only for the CPL/ATPL (frozen). How many flight hours will this give you?
What further concerns me is they state: "...When you have qualified from flight school you will be scheduled for the Airbus 320 type training course...."
To me, this sounds like the 100k is for the flight school training. After that I will be scheduled for the Airbus 320 Type Rating, which would appear to be another course and last time I checked cost about €35,000 for the licence (including 40 or so hours in sim & 6 touch & goes) plus a further €39,000 for 500 hours of line training.
Are Aer Lingus going to fund these courses too?
Remember, all of this for "...When qualified, you may be offered a position..."
And there are, not only as OldChinaHand has said, 100s of perfectly qualified pilots with experience currently unemployed and literally screaming for a job in an airline, but I would say 1,000s in Europe in the same position, including pilots working without pay just to get hours. It is a sorry sorry state and I´m disgusted at my national airline for chosing this route.
For those of you who are seriously considering becoming pilot, I strongly recommend speaking to a pilot who has already gone down the route of 100% funding their training themselves, and are without employment.
And please correct me if I´m wrong, but my understanding of their webpage is this €100,000 part-funded is only for the CPL/ATPL (frozen). How many flight hours will this give you?
What further concerns me is they state: "...When you have qualified from flight school you will be scheduled for the Airbus 320 type training course...."
To me, this sounds like the 100k is for the flight school training. After that I will be scheduled for the Airbus 320 Type Rating, which would appear to be another course and last time I checked cost about €35,000 for the licence (including 40 or so hours in sim & 6 touch & goes) plus a further €39,000 for 500 hours of line training.
Are Aer Lingus going to fund these courses too?
Remember, all of this for "...When qualified, you may be offered a position..."
And there are, not only as OldChinaHand has said, 100s of perfectly qualified pilots with experience currently unemployed and literally screaming for a job in an airline, but I would say 1,000s in Europe in the same position, including pilots working without pay just to get hours. It is a sorry sorry state and I´m disgusted at my national airline for chosing this route.
For those of you who are seriously considering becoming pilot, I strongly recommend speaking to a pilot who has already gone down the route of 100% funding their training themselves, and are without employment.
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The impression I've been given is that EI can't hold onto to their pilots. Aer Lingus are short of pilots partly because they precipitiously got rid of some of the more expensive older hands and partly because being an Aer Lingus pilot means you are attractive to the likes of BA or anyone really. So people are leaving for pastures new.
This would apparently apply to a lot of the self funded pilots they took on recently.
It's been suggested that these cadetships are almost a panic measure to try and get some pilots who will stay the course and not bugger off once they have a few years in an Airbus and have become very marketable.
Possibly through some heavy ball and chain bonding. These new cadets will have a big debt to pay and the partial sponsorship will ensure they're bonded for a long time. Aer Lingus are trying not to be a preferred supplier of pilots for BA DEs.
Time will tell.
This would apparently apply to a lot of the self funded pilots they took on recently.
It's been suggested that these cadetships are almost a panic measure to try and get some pilots who will stay the course and not bugger off once they have a few years in an Airbus and have become very marketable.
Possibly through some heavy ball and chain bonding. These new cadets will have a big debt to pay and the partial sponsorship will ensure they're bonded for a long time. Aer Lingus are trying not to be a preferred supplier of pilots for BA DEs.
Time will tell.