Etihad Cadet Pilot Training Assessment 2009

[EYZ]

The AUH dates are not finalised just yet, so no, I think JNB and SYD are the focus right now, although AUH is quite big in terms of numbers. (if everyone turns up!!)
For those of you who are annoyed with EY for delaying the JFK, YYZ and SIN selections, dont worry, there are no plans to stop the programme, its a slow down, not a cancellation.
If you look at EY order book, 2009 is busy, 2010 is quite as it 2011, but 2012 gets crazy, so maybe they are pacing themselves for this..maybe the first few groups of cadets that are graduating are taking longer to come through the system, so things are backing up and the only way to slow it down is to stop the selections for a while?
As EY said, when it starts again, it will be North America first, followed by SIN.
Okees, if you want further explanations send me your email address or number on PM and i'll fill you in as much as I know..which is limited!!
Oh one last thing, you can have flying experiance for this programme, you just cannot have a CPL of any type, you can be doing your CPL training but no have it in your hand.
This is not the end of the programme!!!

[mehdi18]

Abu dhabi assessment

Hi everybody,

I would like to know if there is somebody who has applied for the assessment in Abu Dhabi and ultimately could not get there? Thanks.

[HDP]

Anyone going to the second phase received their flight details and/or further info yet? I guess Etihad is waiting until everyone has emailed in the required documents...

[glider12000]

Nope not received any details as yet, but that is understandable. I did have to send in my documents twice though, I think they didn`t receive them the first time.

[Grass strip basher]

I would caution on looking at aircraft delivery dates as a driver of low houred pilot recruitment.... aircraft orders can always be delayed/cancelled.

The environment in the Middle East at the moment is tough... in fact very tough. EY is not immune.

okees suck it up life isn't fair and EY does not owe you a living. The UAE is not a democracy and your rights mean diddly squat over here (.... no taxation without representation etc etc).

[MajesticMav]

playing the waiting game..

I've had to send my documents two times aswell because for some reason they wouldn't get through. but hopefully its gone through this time. Anyway still waiting on the flight details and stuff. Cheers

MM

[Airmann]

I've stayed quiet while reading all your posts for the past month or too. And now I've had enough.
I was scheduled for Toronto, got the email. Its canceled, ok, my bad luck.
I've listened to a lot of people on this forum who are obviously desperate to get into this program and have not, because it is very competitive and tough to get in. But I think most of you are over thinking things because of your desire to get in and now you are trying to come to terms with the rejection. That's fair enough, I've done it myself, I'm not going to try and be patronizing or condesending.
However, I don't think many of you understand the reality of the business world, especially in the Middle East and how it works. Firstly, life is not fair. Secondly, as much as you think you are special and deserve a fair chance, no one in Etihad really cares. When the boss says, "Cancel the program we aren't taking any more after Jo'burg", that's it its canceled. Stop romanticizing about Etihad and flying in general.
Just a bit about me, I grew up in the Middle East. My father is a pilot at an airline in the Middle East and has been one for 20 years. He is very senior, and I have spent my life meeting people in the airline industry, specifically the Middle East Airline Industry. I think a lot of you are clinging on to romanticized versions of these airlines and the Middle East in general. Companies in the Middle East are less professional than the West and most other places with regard to almost ALL industries, not just the airline industry. Also, there is a lot of racism and favoritism in the Middle East, no doubts about it. And it is all about who you know, not what you know. This part of the world has not heard about Equal rights, racial profiling is everywhere and people will be racist and just not give a damn. Secondly, if you are a good, innocent person, maybe a little naive, and not that worldly wise, the Middle East is not for you. I have seen many people move to the Middle East, and then leave immediately, this place is fairly ruthless, and if you don't know how to handle it you will not have a good time here. I went to British Private school and most of our teachers were in and out within 2 to 3 years, most of them couldn't handle the place. Same with a number of Canadian pilots that arrived here a while back. Most of them left immediately too, within a year or two. Like I said, there is just a giant lack of professionalism, and I don't know if it will ever change, but if you don't know how to handle it you will find this part of the world hard to work in. And sorry to those who didn't make it.
Ok, that's all I have to say. I'm going to leave it there.

[Mike Whiskey Romeo]

The case of the missing attachments

Ah glad to see other people were having problems with the documents too. Took me until the third attempt, felt like a bit of a twit to be honest but cheered up now!

[dreampilot83]

most of the things what Airmann has mentioned is true..I totaly agree on it since I have been living in Abu Dhabi for the last 3 years...I could add one more point for that,,,one of the qualifications to get in to a realy good Job, is the colour of your skin....(menas the difference between asians and europeans,americans)....I have a doubt whether there are any asian cadet pilots undergoing training at the moment in Etihad ??? can some one advise whether there are any cadet pilots under going training from origins such as India,Pakistan,Sri Lanka,Bangladesh,Philipino ??? or else already finshed the cadet pilot programme and flying for etihad ???

[eg6racer]

I couldn't agree more to Airmann & dreampilot83's post. I've been there only for a few weeks or a month (Abu Dhabi & Dubai) to attend an application interview on a couple of flight schools & visited a couple of my friends from college who've been working there for 2-3yrs now.

You can really see how some are very unprofessional not only on the airline industry but in other industries as well. bottomline is you have to suck it up! be a bit insensitive & learn to ignore the little details in life if you want to fit in, & if you can't take the beating leave... you can always go to a different country or back to your motherland.

oh and by the way about an asian cadet pilot being accepted on any flight school, they haven't had any asian cadets yet (don't know about Etihad). i was told by one of the pilots i was communicating with during the process of my application on one of the schools there that i will be there first asian cadet. (unfortunately I've decline the offer & didn't push through with my enrollment as they cancelled or stop offering their scholarship programme a month before i applied).

But all is ok for me, i just enjoyed the sights...

[Grass strip basher]

To be fair 80% of the UAE's population are expats. The locals I meet are very welcoming and so to brand them all as arrogant racists is a bit unfair. Most of those that make the recruitment decisions at the airlines are unlikely to be locals anyway.

But the UAE is not the UK/US/Europe. Employment law is different. You do not pay any tax so your rights are very very different to the local citizens which is readily apparent before you turn up. The UAE is however very safe with very little/no tax and in many areas much higher moral standards than what is expected in the West. ie. adultery, drunkeness/disorderly, public nudity, defaulting on debt will all land you in hot water. BUT this is clearly stated in the laws of the land so you get caught bonking on the beach you can't moan how unfair it is. The penalties are a lot harsher as well... no slap on the wrist namby pamby new labour approach.... jail time for "small" offences is not uncommon.

There are many advantages to living in the middle east but for those that applying for the cadet scheme that are still living with mum and dad be aware that this is not like moving to uni..... the weather is much better... well at least till it get to May-August when it is too hot to go outside.

[flying high2009]

@dreampilot

I have a doubt whether there are any asian cadet pilots undergoing training at the moment in Etihad ??? can some one advise whether there are any cadet pilots under going training from origins such as India,Pakistan,Sri Lanka,Bangladesh,Philipino ??? or else already finshed the cadet pilot programme and flying for etihad ???

Sorry but i couldnt your comment above could you please explain it in other words if you dont mind!
Thanks a Lot

[dreampilot83]

@flying_high2009..

My point is.......I want to know, whether there are any asian nationalities who has been slected already and undergoing the cadet pilot programme also any asian nationalities who has already completed the programme and flying for Etihad as first officers ??? (asian nationalities=india,pakistan,sri lanka,bangladesh,phillipines)........

[punit]

don't be racist

hey guys dont go on to racisim as this is a bad thing, and no etihad is not racist as my own cousin has got into last years sponsorship, by the way i am an indian, i applied this year but i did not get in. he was 24 years last year and in this industry sometimes they look at age and experience. i only have 16 hours of experience but he has sim 100 hours on a320, plus he also passed all his aptitute tests in one go unlike me. but he discussed the questions with me on monday. so now i know where i went wrong and I will have a better luck next time.
at present he is getting trained and will be fully trained by next year to fly the a320 for real.
so guys this airline is deffinetly not racist. lets get off the topic shall we.

[dreampilot83]

thanks punit...

Thank you very mcuh for the clarification Punit...appreciate it !! so it appears that, it is open for all nationalities.... yes definately we should stop rasicm !!

[ba038]

does anyone know?

i live in london im hoping to apply next year just a few questions that buzzing in my head deos anyone know what thier flight sectors are like 5 on 3 off and also is it possible to fly back to london on your off days not a huge concern for me ill fly for the airline anyday just these little questions i would love to know.

Thank you if anyone could answer them.

[Airmann]

I was never saying that the Airline is racist. Or has any racist policies, I just mean that people in the region in general look down on some races, no company would be openly racist. Not everyone is like this of course, I don't want to stereotype the entire region, but its fairly prevalent. I live in North America now, and the degree to which it exists there is far greater than the degree to which it exists here.

[dreamis2fly]

i cant beleive that some people are saying etihad will not chose some nationalities ... i went to the assessment last year and i didnt make it but i enjoyed the experience .. they were professional people who gave a chance to anyone who excelled in the assessements regardelss of nationality i saw asians , arabs , europeans and americans in the assesement ... common people who else in the world would give you such a chance in the first place ???

[flying high2009]

@Dreampilot83
As you can see xxTS-IQQxx post:

check this out :Business Intelligence Middle East - bi-me.com - First international cadet pilots join Etihad programme - News, analysis, reports
i do not see any indian

In the link it clearly mentions that the first international cadet batch were not from any of the asian countries.
I read your previous posts and what I can understand is that you want to say that etihad airways is racist and asian country people are being targeted.Thats what could I understand from your posts or maybe I am wrong.

But if you really think about it Aviation has recently picked up in Asian countries in about couple of years ago.Thats one of the reasons there are lot of expat pilots in almost every Asian country.About 10 years ago an average middle class Asian child who use to have a dream to be a pilot couldnt become one because he/she didnt have the resources to become one until unless he/she joined the military.But now times have changed people in asian countries have the aptitude and resources and they have been trying to put it in best use to acheive their dreams.
But again there is a major setback for them. That is almost 90% of asian countries have commercial aviation in their skies and general flying is minmum almost none.I stayed in a couple of non-asian and i could make out the differece that general flying is compartively more.Hence people from non-asian countries have a bit more knowledge in terms of flying and aptitude compared to asian guys.Knowing that i can assure you asian guys work real hard to get their level upto non asian guys and surprisingly they hav been successful in doing so in the past few years.

In the first International cadet programme the sucessful cadet were from about from 8 different countries and ya there are no asian guy among them.In this world there are about 195 countries.In that about say people from 80-90 countries might have tried for this programme(its just my guess) but out of which people from only 8 countries have been selected.So now is etihad airline been racist against the rest of the countries?I dont think so......

You have been living in Abu Dabhi for three years you might have faced racisim a lot I dont deny that but the same thing would happen to an asian or a person from gulf he goes to any other non-asian country.This happens only because of some unwanted elements in our society and best thing to do according to me is to ignore such people and move on with lyf and pursue your dream!!!!

Maybe who knows in the next batch of cadets you would find a couple of asian cadets studying with you.............since its an open competition anything can happen!!!!!!

I tried to explain you what i thought and I dont mean to hurt you or anyone in this community.The above statements are the things what i think off and i dont really think skin color really matters if you have the aptitude and the resources to match any company's requirements.
And I hope to believe atleast some of the ppurners would agree with me on this thinking of min!!!!!lol

Cheers

[antes56]

Hy everyone...


Someone get the e-mail from etihad with the details for the SECOND STAGE of assesment in Abu dhabi??



Thanks