TridentAvia-Corendon B737 line training!
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TridentAvia-Corendon B737 line training!
I I was offer the opportunity from TridentAvia for a line training on the B737 with Corendon Aviation in Turkey for 8750€ with 100 block hrs.
Currently I hold a B737-300 series Type Rating but with now hours on it so I am unemployed; I am also in a holding pool for an European company but there are not certain dates for the 2009 course yet and my Type is expiring soon.
Now without starting a mass bitching session, can anyone give me some info about TridentAvia and Corendon?! Did anyone already did this scheme?! Any useful info are welcome,
Thk guys!
Currently I hold a B737-300 series Type Rating but with now hours on it so I am unemployed; I am also in a holding pool for an European company but there are not certain dates for the 2009 course yet and my Type is expiring soon.
Now without starting a mass bitching session, can anyone give me some info about TridentAvia and Corendon?! Did anyone already did this scheme?! Any useful info are welcome,
Thk guys!
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I have never heard about TridentAvia. So I can't give any comments.
But I would be VERY careful to give any money to a new company, especially in the line training business! Besides, the market is dead right now and 100hrs will not get you anywhere. The best possible outcome is to stay in Corendon, (if possible).
But I would be VERY careful to give any money to a new company, especially in the line training business! Besides, the market is dead right now and 100hrs will not get you anywhere. The best possible outcome is to stay in Corendon, (if possible).
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Just be carefull that in Turkey you may do your 100 hours from the jumpseat....
Furthermore 100 on type nowaday is nothing, just a waste of money.
Better keep your money for your recurent!
Ciao
Furthermore 100 on type nowaday is nothing, just a waste of money.
Better keep your money for your recurent!
Ciao
Ladies and gentlemen at TridentAvia,
This is a rumour network, grin and bear it please. You speak of naive individuals, would they be the same naive individuals you exploit by promising them mountains of gold after throwing 9 grand at 100 block hours that will probably not make a difference? Calling Ppruners naive individuals is insulting and arrogant, and if it is indicative of how you treat your customers my co-pruners are very right in advising people to steer well clear of your company. Don't twist facts, the market conditions for inexperienced pilots are very difficult at the moment.
Mods: thank you for removing the post by TridentAvia I am reacting to!
This is a rumour network, grin and bear it please. You speak of naive individuals, would they be the same naive individuals you exploit by promising them mountains of gold after throwing 9 grand at 100 block hours that will probably not make a difference? Calling Ppruners naive individuals is insulting and arrogant, and if it is indicative of how you treat your customers my co-pruners are very right in advising people to steer well clear of your company. Don't twist facts, the market conditions for inexperienced pilots are very difficult at the moment.
Mods: thank you for removing the post by TridentAvia I am reacting to!
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As we said,
We do not, currently, pay to commercially advertise on Pprune thus we shall refrain from discussing our product(s) on Pprune.
Nobody has been 'promised mountains of gold'.
We do not, currently, pay to commercially advertise on Pprune thus we shall refrain from discussing our product(s) on Pprune.
Nobody has been 'promised mountains of gold'.
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Another line training scheme??It seems that all turkish companies are using this 'smart' business idea to take advantage of the low jobs opportunities in Europe and use some cheap working material.
I can understand them in a way,there is economic crisis everywhere,they need to survive.
I can understand them in a way,there is economic crisis everywhere,they need to survive.
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100 hours on a 737. Absoultely and utterly useless.
Without sounding like a complete and utter arse here, do you guys not see what is going on in todays market.
XL - 737 operator - RIP
Sterling - 737 operator - RIP
European Air Charter - 737 operator - RIP
Futura and Futura Gael - 737 operator - RIP
Literally hundreds of experienced 737 drivers are out there. I know a few of them. Each with in excess of 3000 hours on Classics / NGs. Jobless.
If you have 8750e to burn, go and blow it on a 5 star hotels, wild nights out and even wilder ladies (or men if thats your thing). It will give you a lot more satisfaction than sitting around with a useless 737 rating and an even more useless 100 hours on type.
Alternatively save it. When things pick up, find a less common type (non-jet) and enter at a lower level. A 737 TR with limited time is as about as popular as cancer at the moment and will remain so for quite some time.
Without sounding like a complete and utter arse here, do you guys not see what is going on in todays market.
XL - 737 operator - RIP
Sterling - 737 operator - RIP
European Air Charter - 737 operator - RIP
Futura and Futura Gael - 737 operator - RIP
Literally hundreds of experienced 737 drivers are out there. I know a few of them. Each with in excess of 3000 hours on Classics / NGs. Jobless.
If you have 8750e to burn, go and blow it on a 5 star hotels, wild nights out and even wilder ladies (or men if thats your thing). It will give you a lot more satisfaction than sitting around with a useless 737 rating and an even more useless 100 hours on type.
Alternatively save it. When things pick up, find a less common type (non-jet) and enter at a lower level. A 737 TR with limited time is as about as popular as cancer at the moment and will remain so for quite some time.
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...thanks for all your answers! now a new question:
what about Jet Flight Training?! who are they linked to?! what airlines they use for the line trianing?! RAM maybe?! anyone knows?!
thk
what about Jet Flight Training?! who are they linked to?! what airlines they use for the line trianing?! RAM maybe?! anyone knows?!
thk
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(Without sounding like a complete and utter arse here, do you guys not see what is going on in todays market.
XL - 737 operator - RIP
Sterling - 737 operator - RIP
European Air Charter - 737 operator - RIP
Futura and Futura Gael - 737 operator - RIP
Literally hundreds of experienced 737 drivers are out there. I know a few of them. Each with in excess of 3000 hours on Classics / NGs. Jobless.)
Without sounding like a complete and utter arse, I think Corendon just operate the 300 & 400 series B737's, precisely how many hudreds of B737/300-900 type rated First Officers were with European, precisely how many hundreds of XL's pilots were (are) currently qualified to operate the 300/400 series and I think you'll find that Sterling are rising from the ashes within the next few weeks.
But the British, within Europe, have a reputation that they love their island(s) and whilst they might apply for a job elsewhere in Europe when push comes to shove they will not go, they will go if they can maintain a UK home life, excessive days off etc. or they will go but leave at the drop of a hat as soon as a job may become available nearer to home.
And I know that reputation to be accurate, in the main, I have lived and worked in mainland Europe observing such goings on.
XL - 737 operator - RIP
Sterling - 737 operator - RIP
European Air Charter - 737 operator - RIP
Futura and Futura Gael - 737 operator - RIP
Literally hundreds of experienced 737 drivers are out there. I know a few of them. Each with in excess of 3000 hours on Classics / NGs. Jobless.)
Without sounding like a complete and utter arse, I think Corendon just operate the 300 & 400 series B737's, precisely how many hudreds of B737/300-900 type rated First Officers were with European, precisely how many hundreds of XL's pilots were (are) currently qualified to operate the 300/400 series and I think you'll find that Sterling are rising from the ashes within the next few weeks.
But the British, within Europe, have a reputation that they love their island(s) and whilst they might apply for a job elsewhere in Europe when push comes to shove they will not go, they will go if they can maintain a UK home life, excessive days off etc. or they will go but leave at the drop of a hat as soon as a job may become available nearer to home.
And I know that reputation to be accurate, in the main, I have lived and worked in mainland Europe observing such goings on.
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Cimber has bought Sterling
Cimber Holding has acquired all significant parts of the former Sterling. Sterling will continue under the same name and as an independent company, however only as Rental Company for provisionally two aircraft for Cimber. In the future Cimber will be responsible for operation and ticket sale.
With this acquisition Cimber will expand its position as the leading domestic airline in Denmark and at the same time strengthen the focus on European destinations.
Cimber will support the same customer values with focus on; reasonable prices, good atmosphere and respect for the passengers time.
It is part of the plan to enter with two bigger aircraft from January 2009 on the existing services between Aalborg-Copenhagen and Karup-Copenhagen to cover the great passenger flow in the morning and in the afternoon. In the longer run it is part of the plan to expand with another 6 to 8 aircraft and extend with new destinations in Europe.
Cimber Holding has acquired all significant parts of the former Sterling. Sterling will continue under the same name and as an independent company, however only as Rental Company for provisionally two aircraft for Cimber. In the future Cimber will be responsible for operation and ticket sale.
With this acquisition Cimber will expand its position as the leading domestic airline in Denmark and at the same time strengthen the focus on European destinations.
Cimber will support the same customer values with focus on; reasonable prices, good atmosphere and respect for the passengers time.
It is part of the plan to enter with two bigger aircraft from January 2009 on the existing services between Aalborg-Copenhagen and Karup-Copenhagen to cover the great passenger flow in the morning and in the afternoon. In the longer run it is part of the plan to expand with another 6 to 8 aircraft and extend with new destinations in Europe.
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@ Mr GinoPino
I was in the same situation as you are right now a couple of months ago. I have done the 100 hours program with Trident Aviation at Corendon Airlines. And I can tell you that I am happy that I did. Corendon Airlines offered me a job after the 100 hrs.
As some of the people here already suggested, a couple of 737 operators are gone under and because of that the 737 market is a bit flooded, However, I don't see all of them going abroad to work in different countries far from home tho.
Having said that, you need to make a decision for your self. If your plan is to get your line training only and then apply for other company's, I don't think it's a good plan to do anything then. In that case just wait. Because there are a lot of more experienced B737 pilots than you.
But if your plan is to do your line training and do your best to keep working for Corendon, then by all means do your self a favor and do the line training program with Trident Aviation!!
If you have the right attitude and you are deemed capable, they will hire you. It's a nice company to work for and the people are really nice to work with.
I am just grateful that Corendon gave me the opportunity to fly. Otherwise I would have still been in the same situation.
Take care and many happy landings
Nakamura
I was in the same situation as you are right now a couple of months ago. I have done the 100 hours program with Trident Aviation at Corendon Airlines. And I can tell you that I am happy that I did. Corendon Airlines offered me a job after the 100 hrs.
As some of the people here already suggested, a couple of 737 operators are gone under and because of that the 737 market is a bit flooded, However, I don't see all of them going abroad to work in different countries far from home tho.
Having said that, you need to make a decision for your self. If your plan is to get your line training only and then apply for other company's, I don't think it's a good plan to do anything then. In that case just wait. Because there are a lot of more experienced B737 pilots than you.
But if your plan is to do your line training and do your best to keep working for Corendon, then by all means do your self a favor and do the line training program with Trident Aviation!!
If you have the right attitude and you are deemed capable, they will hire you. It's a nice company to work for and the people are really nice to work with.
I am just grateful that Corendon gave me the opportunity to fly. Otherwise I would have still been in the same situation.
Take care and many happy landings
Nakamura
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hello there.
Neither do I know Trident, nor Corendon.
A short googling and reading on their website shows that their programme will give you a proficiency check and 200 hours, not 100 in your logbook (depending on your authority, you may be able to log extra jumpseat time that is required by regulation as FO time. - This is true at least for the UK CAA).
Anyway, 100 hours of line training followed by 100 hours of normal line flying is what it says.
Consider that if you have a rating with no hours, employment chances are slim right now and you may want to keep your rating current. - Here in PRG, this would cost you around €1000. So you have a chance of paying about GBP35 per hour on the 737, and it will keep you more current than a C152.
If you then get the job after or not remains to be seen, but if you have 3 months and the money to spare, then this is not the worst of schemes...
look at the history of KazohiroNakamura, and you can see that he is probably genuine.
cheers IP
Neither do I know Trident, nor Corendon.
A short googling and reading on their website shows that their programme will give you a proficiency check and 200 hours, not 100 in your logbook (depending on your authority, you may be able to log extra jumpseat time that is required by regulation as FO time. - This is true at least for the UK CAA).
Anyway, 100 hours of line training followed by 100 hours of normal line flying is what it says.
Consider that if you have a rating with no hours, employment chances are slim right now and you may want to keep your rating current. - Here in PRG, this would cost you around €1000. So you have a chance of paying about GBP35 per hour on the 737, and it will keep you more current than a C152.
If you then get the job after or not remains to be seen, but if you have 3 months and the money to spare, then this is not the worst of schemes...
look at the history of KazohiroNakamura, and you can see that he is probably genuine.
cheers IP
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Corendon seems to be a nice company to work for, but I heard that they kicked out 3 pilots recently because they tried to apply to another company. 
KazohiroNakamura is right, the only option you have after the line training is to hope for corendon to keep you, If not you are out in the cold.
KazohiroNakamura is right, the only option you have after the line training is to hope for corendon to keep you, If not you are out in the cold.
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If i was in the same place i would go for Eaglejet,it costs a bit more but you get 300 hours instead of 100(in Royal Air Maroc,it is definetely more serious airline that these low cost carriers in Turkey and you also have the opportunity to be employed afterwards.)
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Corendon did kick one guy out, for applying to another turkish 737-operator.
When this guy got his bum kicked out, the other two decided to leave Corendon as well, in an act of sympathy. I find that a very cool thing to do for your bud's!!
They have all found new jobs, and are enjoying themselves where they are now.
@Phileas Fogg
The fact that Cimber has bought the Sterling trademark means nothing.
Sterling will never be a major 737-operator again. End of story.
When this guy got his bum kicked out, the other two decided to leave Corendon as well, in an act of sympathy. I find that a very cool thing to do for your bud's!!
They have all found new jobs, and are enjoying themselves where they are now.
@Phileas Fogg
The fact that Cimber has bought the Sterling trademark means nothing.
Sterling will never be a major 737-operator again. End of story.
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Eagle offert
This time the offert is from Eagle Jet:
Central European bases and good opportunity of employment by the partner airline upon program completion once the 500 hours on type have been completed for about €18k.
Does anyone knows what is the paerter airline involved and which one will be the base?!
Thk again and happy landings to everyone!
Central European bases and good opportunity of employment by the partner airline upon program completion once the 500 hours on type have been completed for about €18k.
Does anyone knows what is the paerter airline involved and which one will be the base?!
Thk again and happy landings to everyone!
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Sky Europe have been in bed with Eaglejet before. Probably this time too.
The fact that Sky Europe is in dire need of money, makes it even more likely.
A friend of mine went the Eaglejet/Sky Europe path back in 2005. Then, it was a 300 hours program, and he got hired by Sky Europe before the end of the program.
So, now it's 500 hours = longer time for Sky E to have you work for free.
Plus the fact that they will charge you even more = extra cash for Sky E.
The fact that Sky Europe is in dire need of money, makes it even more likely.
A friend of mine went the Eaglejet/Sky Europe path back in 2005. Then, it was a 300 hours program, and he got hired by Sky Europe before the end of the program.
So, now it's 500 hours = longer time for Sky E to have you work for free.
Plus the fact that they will charge you even more = extra cash for Sky E.