How can a B777 first officer be so young?
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Dumbest thread ever
Alright,read a few posts and it made me laugh so much...Please,please,tell me,that you guys are aspiring to become pilots???really?
Oh my God!!!if so,you are a looooong way,as maturity counts a lot(mind you,you CAN be a very mature 20 yo)
Honestly,does it really matter if he's young?I've seen plenty of 20-29 yo's F/os in Big jets such as B777!
The comments are poor and show a lack of knowledge on the industry,the time you spent writing crap,or creating crap threads,you could be researching or doing something usefull and constructive,maybe,aiming to be like the chap in the photo...
Oh my God!!!if so,you are a looooong way,as maturity counts a lot(mind you,you CAN be a very mature 20 yo)
Honestly,does it really matter if he's young?I've seen plenty of 20-29 yo's F/os in Big jets such as B777!
The comments are poor and show a lack of knowledge on the industry,the time you spent writing crap,or creating crap threads,you could be researching or doing something usefull and constructive,maybe,aiming to be like the chap in the photo...
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Young pilots
Had lunch recently with an 88 year old gentleman who had 30 mission as a Wellington pilot before his 22 nd birthday. His first mission was at about 270 hours. He did say he had to grow up very fast . After the war he spent 36 years as an airline pilot retired on the B747 was promoted to captain on DC 4 at 27.
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It isn't that unusual! I'm 23 and a FO on the 747-400 with BA, and there are plenty of young guys flying long haul. The guy in the picture doesn't even look THAT young anyway!
Well said Rapha_BA!
Well said Rapha_BA!
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I honestly find it hard to believe that a mature group of pilots and wannabe's are arguing over such a ridiculous question. The thread starter should be locked up for being an incompetent fool with little knowledge of the aviation industry and this thread should be closed!
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I do agree that it is becoming a little bit booring now. We have allready gotten the answer. Its the same thing. You donīt have to be more skilled or have bigger muscles or be older in order to fly the 747 or 777. They have pretty much the same instruments as the 737 and the same controll stick. It is just that normally older persons with more experience work on the larger airplanes. That is how it works in the airline industry. But some times younger people get the oppurtunitie to fly bigger planes. What is the big fanatisism about this matter? Sure if I could fly the 747 as a 23 year old I would be bery happy, but I am happy to become a pilot and fly whatever plane there is. The big planes may come whith time.
So please lets close this thread now!!
So please lets close this thread now!!
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How come the guy in the left seat doesn't have gray hair ? I thought all the pilots flying heavy planes had gray hair ??
Maybe he's using hair dye ?? Inquiring minds want to know.....
Maybe he's using hair dye ?? Inquiring minds want to know.....
I am 21 and an A320 F/O. You will find many 21 year old pilots out there, some more mature than others. Clearly, it takes a certain amount of maturity to work in this industry. The company I work for doesn't operate any other type, however, if I was to be in the place of some that work for companies that have a more diverse fleet, I wouldn't feel it to be at all unreasonable that I could have the opportunity to fly a large widebody in the next few years.
That said, I started training at the age of 19, and some of my "classmates" really had no maturity at all, and it was pretty clear they didn't understand what was required from them by the industry they were getting into. Those guys really struggled through their training, some even dropped out. This is not necceseraly due to low aptitude, but more related to not knowing the difference between time to work and time to play.
Everyone is different, I believe that you need to put in 150% to get 100% out. Work hard, play hard, and you can achive anything .
That said, I started training at the age of 19, and some of my "classmates" really had no maturity at all, and it was pretty clear they didn't understand what was required from them by the industry they were getting into. Those guys really struggled through their training, some even dropped out. This is not necceseraly due to low aptitude, but more related to not knowing the difference between time to work and time to play.
Everyone is different, I believe that you need to put in 150% to get 100% out. Work hard, play hard, and you can achive anything .
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Come to India and just see into the Air India B777 cockpits. There are FOs that are just 21 years old ( including ladies). By the way i am also a B777 pilot, i started on the B777 at the age of 27. i started working as an Airline pilot at the age of 19, my first job was on the B737-200 and about 2 years later was selected for the 747-400 but never flew it ,they later sent me to the Airbus 310 fleet.
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747 forever,
It is possible and achievable.
I have a friend who got his COMMAND on B777 at the age of 28 with a legacy carrier. At that time he was the youngest in his company (and still stand until today) to achieve the command status on B777. This is how he started his career.
Age 20 - Graduated from flying school.
Age 21-22 - Flying B734 as an FO.
Age 23-25 - Flying B744 as an FO.
Age 26-27 - Flying B734 as a Capt.
Age 28 - Promoted to B777 Capt.
Today he is a TRE/TIRE on B777 and he achieved that at the age of 31. He was the lucky one because he hit 3500 TT (minimum hours in his company to get promoted to a Capt) at the age of 25 and had an outstanding performance in all his training/check records + there was a vacancy for a promotion.
You have to be at the right place and time in order to achieve that as well as good track record.
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It is possible and achievable.
I have a friend who got his COMMAND on B777 at the age of 28 with a legacy carrier. At that time he was the youngest in his company (and still stand until today) to achieve the command status on B777. This is how he started his career.
Age 20 - Graduated from flying school.
Age 21-22 - Flying B734 as an FO.
Age 23-25 - Flying B744 as an FO.
Age 26-27 - Flying B734 as a Capt.
Age 28 - Promoted to B777 Capt.
Today he is a TRE/TIRE on B777 and he achieved that at the age of 31. He was the lucky one because he hit 3500 TT (minimum hours in his company to get promoted to a Capt) at the age of 25 and had an outstanding performance in all his training/check records + there was a vacancy for a promotion.
You have to be at the right place and time in order to achieve that as well as good track record.
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the thing I want to know is how to be a pilot of a 747/777 at a young age like 25. You need a lot of hours and experience on big jets. That is also for first officer, there like 35 or 40 years of age. SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME EXACTLY HOW TO BE A 747 PILOT AT A YOUNG AGE!!!!
the thing I want to know is how to be a pilot of a 747/777 at a young age like 25. You need a lot of hours and experience on big jets. That is also for first officer, there like 35 or 40 years of age. SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME EXACTLY HOW TO BE A 747 PILOT AT A YOUNG AGE
Countries like the USA, Canada, Australia, NZ all have either a big market or a very mature aviation market which makes getting into airlines on the whole a difficult task. No jet airline in any of these countries would hire a 200 hour pilot. Yet in Asia this is very normal and in Europe it is not that unusual either.
If you want the fastest track. Well if you are in any of the countries I mentioned there is no fast track, I would suggest that you go overseas somewhere....seriously.
If you are in Europe, get into a Low Cost Carrier ASAP, as soon as you have enough A320 or 737 time try for one of the Middle East carriers. If you are in Asia getting into a jet airline shouldn't be that difficult.
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so your saying that its more easy in asia? But how do the young people who work for klm, virgin or british airways become a pilot for wide bodies? They did not go to the middle east or asia. How did they without going to those kind of places? Must be so hard
They spent time flying for low cost carriers or they fly a230/737 for that carrier then move on to the widebody. If you parents are wealthy and got your license at say 20 you could easily be on a 777/a340/747 by the time you were 30.
Don't forget some guys are lucky and go through the ranks quickly for whatever reason.
Don't forget some guys are lucky and go through the ranks quickly for whatever reason.
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license at 20? Which license? You can get your ppl at 17 ( which Im going to do) , CPL at 18 and ATPL at 21/22. Do you mean CPL at 20? I don`t think you can fly a 747/777 without an ATPL which you get at 21 or 22.
Also what lucky reason could happen? I mean you have to be at a high rank or so to be a pilot for widebodies.
Also what lucky reason could happen? I mean you have to be at a high rank or so to be a pilot for widebodies.
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747FOREVER,
This is were you are getting confused, there are many airlines around the world that put cadet pilots with a CPL onto widebody aircraft. I used to fly with Captains all the time who went straight from flying school at the age of 18-20 and into the right hand seat of DC10's, 747's etc. You don't have to have an ATPL to fly wide body aircraft. I could have flown the 747 or 777 in my mid twenties but decided to stay on the A320 fleet as the long haul lifestyle is not for me. Don't get too wrapped up in deciding so early that you want to fly a particular aircraft. Fly whatever you can and enjoy each of them
This is were you are getting confused, there are many airlines around the world that put cadet pilots with a CPL onto widebody aircraft. I used to fly with Captains all the time who went straight from flying school at the age of 18-20 and into the right hand seat of DC10's, 747's etc. You don't have to have an ATPL to fly wide body aircraft. I could have flown the 747 or 777 in my mid twenties but decided to stay on the A320 fleet as the long haul lifestyle is not for me. Don't get too wrapped up in deciding so early that you want to fly a particular aircraft. Fly whatever you can and enjoy each of them