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tommyg737 said
Well I've heard of modular, and there is integrated, but intragrated is new to me. Is that the new one that takes you from PA28 to 737 in 7 days?!
I chose intragrated because...
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we went to AFRICA. The best place to earn and learn
Yep, you can get away with lots in Africa, lots that the CAA/JAA would nail your balls to the floor with here in Europe but I seriously doubt the experience would get you a job in a revenue generating airlines shiny new aluminum tube.
If you need the money or want to live life on the edge and have some dangerous fun with a good chance of killing yourself and others then go ahead, otherwise I would suggest placing CathayBrat on the ignore list.
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While i can't comment on flying in Africa, i can say i am sick of (not all) the people coming out of xxx integrated and whinging there are no jobs, when air taxi companies, FTO's, and cargo operators are all crying out for pilots...
It seems if its not a new boeing, they ain't going!
It seems if its not a new boeing, they ain't going!
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MMEMatty....er no, I can't agree with you there. Where do you get your information?
FTO's - yes, they are very probably crying out for people. Air Taxi companies? Not from where I am mate. Cargo operators? Nope, can't say I am seeing them kicking people's doors down either. Maybe 12 months ago, but not anymore I am afraid.
FTO's - yes, they are very probably crying out for people. Air Taxi companies? Not from where I am mate. Cargo operators? Nope, can't say I am seeing them kicking people's doors down either. Maybe 12 months ago, but not anymore I am afraid.
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When I was instructing I met a guy who flew a Cessna Caravan in Africa. Sure it gave him some useful experience of turbines, but it was a whole load of hassle going out there, it cost him for the type rating too, and he didn't get a huge amount of hours.
He was very surprised at how many hours I was getting in the UK. Another point is, when he came back from Africa to look for jobs he wasn't flying whereas all the time I was instructing I was networking, gaining experience and of course i was available for those last minute interviews that pop out occasionally! I'm not saying its impossible to job hunt in the UK from Africa, but it can't be easy.
He was very surprised at how many hours I was getting in the UK. Another point is, when he came back from Africa to look for jobs he wasn't flying whereas all the time I was instructing I was networking, gaining experience and of course i was available for those last minute interviews that pop out occasionally! I'm not saying its impossible to job hunt in the UK from Africa, but it can't be easy.
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Tommyg737 said:
But, it turns out you are off to Phoenix to do your basic flight training in a PA28.
Unless, OAA do their basic training in a 737-800? Would explain their outrageous couse cost.......
EK
can’t stop and play got a shiny jet to fly!!
Unless, OAA do their basic training in a 737-800? Would explain their outrageous couse cost.......
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LoL, some people get hypersensitive about being insulted for being modular or integrated. Well big fecking deal. 
Get over it. Either way you finish up as a low time pilot scrambling for jobs.
Africa sounds interesting and at one point I would have leapt at it. A friend is considering it but he's young and I'm not so young with a sprog. That puts a different perspective on it. And to be honest, you might, as someone pointed out, be better off Instructing at home where you can network. If that's you motivation.
I think what CathayBrat is really trying to say, in his alcoholically inspired tirade, is to get off you backside and stop whinging. All too often on this forum we have freshly minted 200 hour pilot, modular or integrated, I know not what. Who is sitting at home in his cups, like CathayBrat, bemoaning that fact that despite sending a gazillion CV's to every airline on the planet. No one has even bothered to reply, even with a PFO.
Well that's life. I've concluded there are two kinds of pilot. Those who expect and want to be airline pilots and those who want to fly. (But who end on airliners eventually). The former are more likely to end up back home with the parents barely staying current. The latter are to be found Instructing, in Africa, in the military, dropping skydivers etc. The former live in comfort. The latter live on low pay, getting shot at (Africa) and dodging Giraffes, getting shot at (military), and going up and down all day(skydiving). Probably living in a hovel and existing on minimum money.
Which will be the better pilot at the end of all that? Who knows! But I do know who is having more fun.
I have known pilots turn down job offers in GA. Preferring instead to wait for the big shiny jet job to turn up. Oblivious to the fact that many of the pilots actually getting the jet jobs often got them off the back of contacts they made while flying scruffy old spamcans for peanuts.
Each to his own I suppose.
Get over it. Either way you finish up as a low time pilot scrambling for jobs.Africa sounds interesting and at one point I would have leapt at it. A friend is considering it but he's young and I'm not so young with a sprog. That puts a different perspective on it. And to be honest, you might, as someone pointed out, be better off Instructing at home where you can network. If that's you motivation.
I think what CathayBrat is really trying to say, in his alcoholically inspired tirade, is to get off you backside and stop whinging. All too often on this forum we have freshly minted 200 hour pilot, modular or integrated, I know not what. Who is sitting at home in his cups, like CathayBrat, bemoaning that fact that despite sending a gazillion CV's to every airline on the planet. No one has even bothered to reply, even with a PFO.
Well that's life. I've concluded there are two kinds of pilot. Those who expect and want to be airline pilots and those who want to fly. (But who end on airliners eventually). The former are more likely to end up back home with the parents barely staying current. The latter are to be found Instructing, in Africa, in the military, dropping skydivers etc. The former live in comfort. The latter live on low pay, getting shot at (Africa) and dodging Giraffes, getting shot at (military), and going up and down all day(skydiving). Probably living in a hovel and existing on minimum money.
Which will be the better pilot at the end of all that? Who knows! But I do know who is having more fun.
I have known pilots turn down job offers in GA. Preferring instead to wait for the big shiny jet job to turn up. Oblivious to the fact that many of the pilots actually getting the jet jobs often got them off the back of contacts they made while flying scruffy old spamcans for peanuts.
Each to his own I suppose.
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Where did i say 30 hrs on a PA 28 in may? Last year maybe! No you are right, im still at oxford! But cathybrat just annoyed me so much, i was speaking hypotheticly ( Not to sure if i can spell!), just wanted to annoy him, i am off to phoenix to get my 200 hrs soon and will most definetly be dam pround of it and would have worked very hard for them! It annoys me as not all integrated are like this and moan, in fact i don't hear of any one! There are many people just getting along with what we have at the moment in the industry, it was our choice to do it this way no one elses and so it is us who must pick up the pieces IF it all goes a bit petetong!!
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[Where did i say 30 hrs on a PA 28 in may?]
Errrr...Right here, on this very forum May 29 2008 at 16.23hrs to be exact!!
[hello, Im currently at oxford doing the intergrated, i have 30 hours on a PA28]
Never mind! ...good luck with the course and keep your story consistent when it comes to CV time
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Errrr...Right here, on this very forum May 29 2008 at 16.23hrs to be exact!!
[hello, Im currently at oxford doing the intergrated, i have 30 hours on a PA28]
Never mind! ...good luck with the course and keep your story consistent when it comes to CV time
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LOL, Have you been stalking me!!!! Your right, i wont be lying on my cv, i had to say somethink i was just bloody annoyed! Think you all got my point! Thank you clear prop, goog luck to u too, what ever it is that you do!!!
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Job Hunting in Africa
Job hunting in August is OK. But, what is a "right time". I believe tomorrow is to late. Go to Africa, and follow the good advise given; remain the professional you have trained to be, and you will come out an experienced pilot. Those who did not come out were the "bolds".
Good luck, from someone who have flown in Africa for 36 years.
Good luck, from someone who have flown in Africa for 36 years.
