How easy is it to get a job then?
you really want to make friends on a forum??
Aviation is a small world.
Your ignorance/arrogance will be your undoing. I suggest if you don't open your eyes and adjust your attitude, you should go away and think about choosing a different career.
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I personally dont kno as i'm in pritty much the same boat but smaller and further away
i'm 20 and still halfway through an aerospace systems degree
however from what people have said ect it seems to me like if you can get to uni and get a good degree, do that 1st!
then get a good job with a good salary, on you 25 days a year hol do some training bit by bit, i.e. year 1 ppl, year 2 cpl ect
I plan to be able to save about £7-11k a year (if i live in a tiny house and dont eat like i am now as student)
then in a long time probs 5, 6 ish years or somthing (so when your 30) you can apply for your airlines, but while you wait your still getting paid a good wage!
Play the waiting game, never get into debt and do a few different types of jobs
win win surely?
BTW if people think i'm wrong and have a good alternative please let me kno, as i say i dont have any experience on stuff so any info is welcome.
PS. i dont have a rich daddy so cant buy it all in 1 go, and dont fancy having a 60k debt hanging over me!
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i'm 20 and still halfway through an aerospace systems degree
however from what people have said ect it seems to me like if you can get to uni and get a good degree, do that 1st!
then get a good job with a good salary, on you 25 days a year hol do some training bit by bit, i.e. year 1 ppl, year 2 cpl ect
I plan to be able to save about £7-11k a year (if i live in a tiny house and dont eat like i am now as student)
then in a long time probs 5, 6 ish years or somthing (so when your 30) you can apply for your airlines, but while you wait your still getting paid a good wage!
Play the waiting game, never get into debt and do a few different types of jobs
win win surely?
BTW if people think i'm wrong and have a good alternative please let me kno, as i say i dont have any experience on stuff so any info is welcome.
PS. i dont have a rich daddy so cant buy it all in 1 go, and dont fancy having a 60k debt hanging over me!
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New Student,
for me it was quite easy to get a job when I look back, must be a personality thing I guess, for you I see it not being too easy ifyou go in with that attitude. As a result yes, lots of money, lots of parties and lots of women!!
for me it was quite easy to get a job when I look back, must be a personality thing I guess, for you I see it not being too easy ifyou go in with that attitude. As a result yes, lots of money, lots of parties and lots of women!!
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I really hope that this is a wind up. However, on the off-chance that newstudentneil is genuinely looking for advice:
You seriously need to look at whether this is a career that you would like to get into. Jobs are not easy to come by, by any stretch of the imagination, and to be blunt, if you come across in an airline (or any aviation related job) interview like the way you have presented yourself in this forum, then you will be sorely disappointed.
You seriously need to look at whether this is a career that you would like to get into. Jobs are not easy to come by, by any stretch of the imagination, and to be blunt, if you come across in an airline (or any aviation related job) interview like the way you have presented yourself in this forum, then you will be sorely disappointed.
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Are you expected to cough up for type rating/line trainning at ryanair?
I've heard it's between £20k and £30k for a SSTR+LT on a 737.
But if you were bonded for a Type Rating with another airline, for arguments sake easy-jet I think I'd be right in saying they'd bond you for the TR and would take the £20k from your pay over 3 to 5 years?
The risk would be finding the cheapest Type Rating you can find blowing close to £20k on a TR with no written confirmation of a job with any airline.
People argue for and against a SSTR and Ryanair in general.
I personally dont kno as i'm in pritty much the same boat but smaller and further away
i'm 20 and still halfway through an aerospace systems degree
however from what people have said ect it seems to me like if you can get to uni and get a good degree, do that 1st!
then get a good job with a good salary, on you 25 days a year hol do some training bit by bit, i.e. year 1 ppl, year 2 cpl ect
I plan to be able to save about £7-11k a year (if i live in a tiny house and dont eat like i am now as student)
then in a long time probs 5, 6 ish years or somthing (so when your 30) you can apply for your airlines, but while you wait your still getting paid a good wage!
Play the waiting game, never get into debt and do a few different types of jobs
win win surely?
BTW if people think i'm wrong and have a good alternative please let me kno, as i say i dont have any experience on stuff so any info is welcome.
PS. i dont have a rich daddy so cant buy it all in 1 go, and dont fancy having a 60k debt hanging over me!
Nathan
Are you a troll or are you really half way through an Aerospace Systems degree course? If the former then Bravo. If the latter then I am very worried.
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i'm 20 and still halfway through an aerospace systems degree
however from what people have said ect it seems to me like if you can get to uni and get a good degree, do that 1st!
then get a good job with a good salary, on you 25 days a year hol do some training bit by bit, i.e. year 1 ppl, year 2 cpl ect
I plan to be able to save about £7-11k a year (if i live in a tiny house and dont eat like i am now as student)
then in a long time probs 5, 6 ish years or somthing (so when your 30) you can apply for your airlines, but while you wait your still getting paid a good wage!
Play the waiting game, never get into debt and do a few different types of jobs
win win surely?
BTW if people think i'm wrong and have a good alternative please let me kno, as i say i dont have any experience on stuff so any info is welcome.
PS. i dont have a rich daddy so cant buy it all in 1 go, and dont fancy having a 60k debt hanging over me!
Nathan
Are you a troll or are you really half way through an Aerospace Systems degree course? If the former then Bravo. If the latter then I am very worried.
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for me it was quite easy to get a job when I look back, must be a personality thing I guess, for you I see it not being too easy if you go in with that attitude.
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Explain?
why's it not a good idea then?
admittedly now doubting how good a job with an an airline will be? bit repetative? where as designing misslie systems say then instructing on the w/e sounds more fun?
any pilots in here that have been there and done that and what do they think of their job? is it just an IT technician?
why's it not a good idea then?
admittedly now doubting how good a job with an an airline will be? bit repetative? where as designing misslie systems say then instructing on the w/e sounds more fun?
any pilots in here that have been there and done that and what do they think of their job? is it just an IT technician?
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Nathan, if you doubt it that much you shouldn't bother!
Get a job designing missile systems, do whatever makes you happy. If you don't reckon flying commercially will be for you, don't do it.
Get a job designing missile systems, do whatever makes you happy. If you don't reckon flying commercially will be for you, don't do it.
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yeah don't bother nathan. if you're not prepared to get into debt to do it then it's obv not too important to you. it's effing hard work aswell, no part of the course is easy and i've seen lots of people fail through a cpl because you really need to want it to get through it. doesn't sound like you do want it.
to be honest, designing missiles sounds boring to me. being in control of a 70tonne aircraft with a couple of hundred people sat behind you on a horrible approach, ****ty weather etc now thats a good job to me. not repetitive
And although I have never been an IT technician, I'm pretty sure it's not the same. i'll ask one next time i phone a helpdesk.
good luck
to be honest, designing missiles sounds boring to me. being in control of a 70tonne aircraft with a couple of hundred people sat behind you on a horrible approach, ****ty weather etc now thats a good job to me. not repetitive
And although I have never been an IT technician, I'm pretty sure it's not the same. i'll ask one next time i phone a helpdesk.
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get a good job with a good salary, on you 25 days a year hol do some training bit by bit, i.e. year 1 ppl, year 2 cpl ect
I plan to be able to save about £7-11k a year (if i live in a tiny house and dont eat like i am now as student)
then in a long time probs 5, 6 ish years or somthing (so when your 30) you can apply for your airlines, but while you wait your still getting paid a good wage!
I plan to be able to save about £7-11k a year (if i live in a tiny house and dont eat like i am now as student)
then in a long time probs 5, 6 ish years or somthing (so when your 30) you can apply for your airlines, but while you wait your still getting paid a good wage!
If you complete modular in 12/18 months it's still just as good (in my opinion and what I have been told by others). Stopping and starting will probably take longer and cost you more in the long run.
If you plan to put away £7k - £11k per year then the job must be pretty well paid, considering you'll have a mortgage/bills etc.
£120k house = £700 per month mortgage and then there are say £150 of bills per month to keep the house going. Add car expenses and general living expenses and I'm sure you'll be spending £1k per month.
Saving £9k +/- £2k per year is putting away £750 a month.
To clear £1,750 a month you'd need to earn a minimum (with student loan payments) of £30,426 pa before tax. Is this your expected salary?
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i'm moving about to much to buy a house for the moment so will only be renting and as a master graduate you can get jobs in engineering ranging from £24k to £32k bastic starting pay + your up to 10% bonus salary signing on bonuses ect ect some companies even starting to offer up to 5k intrest free loans, so saving the money isnt a problem.
i want to know if anyone here as been to uni at all and done engineering or are you all fresh from A-levels?
thanks for you advice anyhu
i want to know if anyone here as been to uni at all and done engineering or are you all fresh from A-levels?
thanks for you advice anyhu
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yeah don't bother nathan. if you're not prepared to get into debt to do it then it's obv not too important to you. it's effing hard work aswell, no part of the course is easy and i've seen lots of people fail through a cpl because you really need to want it to get through it. doesn't sound like you do want it.
to be honest, designing missiles sounds boring to me. being in control of a 70tonne aircraft with a couple of hundred people sat behind you on a horrible approach, ****ty weather etc now thats a good job to me. not repetitive
Although a very nice Aero systems can let your auto pilot handle all that for you?
all i'm wondering is, has any1 been there done that and has a view on both aspects, this question should probbaly not be in the wannabe's forum but its good to know what other people think
How bigger debt are people in? are people paying it back yet? how much a month? what job do you do whist waiting for an airline job to come about?
ect ect any ideas people?
thanks
nathan
to be honest, designing missiles sounds boring to me. being in control of a 70tonne aircraft with a couple of hundred people sat behind you on a horrible approach, ****ty weather etc now thats a good job to me. not repetitive
Although a very nice Aero systems can let your auto pilot handle all that for you?
all i'm wondering is, has any1 been there done that and has a view on both aspects, this question should probbaly not be in the wannabe's forum but its good to know what other people think
How bigger debt are people in? are people paying it back yet? how much a month? what job do you do whist waiting for an airline job to come about?
ect ect any ideas people?
thanks
nathan
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