Ryanair cadet open day
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Ryanair cadet open day
Just saw the ad on the screen above here.
At East Midlands airport on 17th November.
Anybody know what it is about? What sort of people are they looking to attend?
Thanks.
At East Midlands airport on 17th November.
Anybody know what it is about? What sort of people are they looking to attend?
Thanks.
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It seems Ryanair are looking for qualified Cadets with the necessary requirements. The details are here:
http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/about...s&ref=CAD00001
You can't just arrive, you have to pre book and pre pay! The next show is 16th December.
dhc1180, if you don't want to work for Ryanair why waste your money and time attending!?!
JJ
http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/about...s&ref=CAD00001
You can't just arrive, you have to pre book and pre pay! The next show is 16th December.
dhc1180, if you don't want to work for Ryanair why waste your money and time attending!?!
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Cant believe Ryan Air charge £10 to attend this open day. What a complete and total disgrace!
I can imagine the scene in some board room in Dublin:
"-Well guys, profits are up again good work every one... but you know, we still need to find more ways of cutting costs and making more money....
- Hows about those wannabe pilots, they always seem to be stupid enough to fall for almost anything....
- Yeh, we even got them to pay for their own interviews! Can't believe they swallowed that one! The money from that, along with our cut of CAE's type rating fees all counts....
-I know, why don't we hold an open day and all charge them to attend..
People, stop letting them take the piss out of you for christ's sake and DON'T GO! THE MORE US WANNABES CONTINUE TO HUMILIATE OURSELVES BY PLAYING RYAN AIR'S GAMES THE MORE THEY WILL THINK THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH. HAVE SOME SELF RESPECT!
I can imagine the scene in some board room in Dublin:
"-Well guys, profits are up again good work every one... but you know, we still need to find more ways of cutting costs and making more money....
- Hows about those wannabe pilots, they always seem to be stupid enough to fall for almost anything....
- Yeh, we even got them to pay for their own interviews! Can't believe they swallowed that one! The money from that, along with our cut of CAE's type rating fees all counts....
-I know, why don't we hold an open day and all charge them to attend..
People, stop letting them take the piss out of you for christ's sake and DON'T GO! THE MORE US WANNABES CONTINUE TO HUMILIATE OURSELVES BY PLAYING RYAN AIR'S GAMES THE MORE THEY WILL THINK THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH. HAVE SOME SELF RESPECT!
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Hi all,
Once again this thread is degenerating into an anti-ryanair rant.
Every man and his dog knows what Ryan air is about so why go on about it?
Every airline gets the money from you one way or another be it bonding and reduced salary, direct loan and pay back purchase or the other 20 odd schemes that exhist.
Its the nature of the business get used to it or find something else to do.
We live in a Capitalist society and for all its faults the beauty of it, itgives everyone of us a choice. Use it.
best wishes
Once again this thread is degenerating into an anti-ryanair rant.
Every man and his dog knows what Ryan air is about so why go on about it?
Every airline gets the money from you one way or another be it bonding and reduced salary, direct loan and pay back purchase or the other 20 odd schemes that exhist.
Its the nature of the business get used to it or find something else to do.
We live in a Capitalist society and for all its faults the beauty of it, itgives everyone of us a choice. Use it.
best wishes
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It is likely that such an event would mean curtains for Ryan Air, and good riddance.
Apart from wishing a crew and pax the worst fate possible you are also wishing an airline with 150+ aircraft to go bust? You do realise if that did happen the market would be flooded with many many... many 738 rated pilots into the world, basically screwing all newbie’s (YOU) for years to come.
Not the best outlook that is it?
Looking at your history you seem to have anger issues, maybe thinking before posting might help?
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YYZ, I am not wishing death to a Ryan Air aircraft, pax and crew! That would be a horrible thing to do.
I do however long for the demise of Ryan Air!.....or at least for them to change their ways....
I do however long for the demise of Ryan Air!.....or at least for them to change their ways....
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Orvil, bonding actually is the best way to go and with a lot of thoes airlines its not a reduced salary. Really the worst thing about a bond is if the company let's you go but with today's climate that's unlikely to happen.
Now as for the market. If you guys didn't pay for your type-raiting you wouldn't have it and if FR were to disappear (won't happen for a while) then yes there would be an influx of pilots but other factors such as if they want to keep flying are fortuned in as well.
Now as for the market. If you guys didn't pay for your type-raiting you wouldn't have it and if FR were to disappear (won't happen for a while) then yes there would be an influx of pilots but other factors such as if they want to keep flying are fortuned in as well.
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Not saying that Ryanair is the worlds favourite employer, I certainly couldn't afford to work for them on a 2 striper contract, but what about BALPA charging £60 this year to attend their Job oppertunities conference? Only for newbees to hear "yes we are hiring but our min requirements are a type rating on a 707 and 500hrs on type" etc etc.
£10 to me sounds reasonable value campared to this as at least RYR do have genuine jobs to give low houred guys/gals?
As for £300 for interview, if you know who to call you pay nothin!
Also, don't be so niave. No company owes anybody a job. Trust me, there are equally well known company's that will treat pilots with utter contempt when it suits them!
Not saying that Ryanair is the worlds favourite employer, I certainly couldn't afford to work for them on a 2 striper contract, but what about BALPA charging £60 this year to attend their Job oppertunities conference? Only for newbees to hear "yes we are hiring but our min requirements are a type rating on a 707 and 500hrs on type" etc etc.
£10 to me sounds reasonable value campared to this as at least RYR do have genuine jobs to give low houred guys/gals?
As for £300 for interview, if you know who to call you pay nothin!
Also, don't be so niave. No company owes anybody a job. Trust me, there are equally well known company's that will treat pilots with utter contempt when it suits them!
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I concur with LAX.
If BALPA gave a monkies about the new recruits they wouldn't have had a conference that cost £60 each for some bearded chap to tell us how great Jet 2 were for giving him a job, when they didn't even turn up.
Next time BALPA forget the prawns in batter and save us the dollar, or was it just a money making exercise to support the BA Captains pension.
At least with RYR you know that you are going to get shafted and you can prepare for it. Close your eyes and relax.
Several others wont give you the benefit of a reach around...
If BALPA gave a monkies about the new recruits they wouldn't have had a conference that cost £60 each for some bearded chap to tell us how great Jet 2 were for giving him a job, when they didn't even turn up.
Next time BALPA forget the prawns in batter and save us the dollar, or was it just a money making exercise to support the BA Captains pension.
At least with RYR you know that you are going to get shafted and you can prepare for it. Close your eyes and relax.
Several others wont give you the benefit of a reach around...
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Monkey, I value your opinion even if it is abit of a sweeping generalisation but at the end of the day everybody is free to make their choices and nobody is forced to work for ryanair.
If you despise them that much don't apply, stop getting frustrated and move on.
It's the world we both live in, BALPA don't care or anyother professional body.
Ask yourself this question, when you become management yourself (your type always rise to the top ;-) ) Would you stand out on a professional limb and tell the shareholders and fellow directors that it is wrong and immoral ? I doubt it very much unless you want to retire early !!
Ejet, agree best type of bond is one that pays full salary as well but they are few and far. Don't know of any airline that does that (unless ya' Dad is the management I'd LOL if it weren't true)
At the end of the day .....choose wise and go fourth!
bestwishes to all
If you despise them that much don't apply, stop getting frustrated and move on.
It's the world we both live in, BALPA don't care or anyother professional body.
Ask yourself this question, when you become management yourself (your type always rise to the top ;-) ) Would you stand out on a professional limb and tell the shareholders and fellow directors that it is wrong and immoral ? I doubt it very much unless you want to retire early !!
Ejet, agree best type of bond is one that pays full salary as well but they are few and far. Don't know of any airline that does that (unless ya' Dad is the management I'd LOL if it weren't true)
At the end of the day .....choose wise and go fourth!
bestwishes to all
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One more thing mm.
While there maybe issues between upper management and pilots, I have many fine friends - cpts/fo's - who work for RYR. If you actually knew what you where talking about, or guys/gals within the company, you would never have written such a rediculus post suggesting an incident. For example, 6 crew working to turn a 737-800 around in 25 mins is no problem, it is done safely, the biggest challenge is getting the pax on and off that quickly as with infants there can be nearly 200 people on board such an aircraft. And as for speed on final approach you will be asked at most UK airports to maintain 160kts to 4 miles in CAT I conditions, remember there are flap limiting speeds and most 737 operators have a call 500ft stable=continue or go round. Get your facts right!!!!
While there maybe issues between upper management and pilots, I have many fine friends - cpts/fo's - who work for RYR. If you actually knew what you where talking about, or guys/gals within the company, you would never have written such a rediculus post suggesting an incident. For example, 6 crew working to turn a 737-800 around in 25 mins is no problem, it is done safely, the biggest challenge is getting the pax on and off that quickly as with infants there can be nearly 200 people on board such an aircraft. And as for speed on final approach you will be asked at most UK airports to maintain 160kts to 4 miles in CAT I conditions, remember there are flap limiting speeds and most 737 operators have a call 500ft stable=continue or go round. Get your facts right!!!!
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Modern monkey, I find you ignorant generalisations of the operational standards of Ryanair and their crews utterly disgusting. Say what you like about their recruitment practices, as this would seem to be the level of your career, but never comment on an airlines operational standards when you simply don't have any idea about such matters.
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Ok! I retract my comments about Ryan Air's operational standards. My aim was never to question the professionalism and quality of Ryan Air's crews and staff. My aim was merely to speculate on whether Ryan Air's cost cutting approach and management style might potentially contribute to a lowering of standards.
Personally I find their exploitation of wannabe's utterly disgusting.
Personally I find their exploitation of wannabe's utterly disgusting.
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Hmm, last time I checked, Oxford, FTE and CTC charged you for an assessment, and your not even being paid! What's the difference?
As someone earlier said before, they will find a way to get your money out of you.
I went to the assessment day before and it was a very interesting day - not only on Ryanair but just to meet likeminded people and get an insight into the aviation market. We got to see the sims, play in the cabin trainer, and got given a talk and presentation on what it's all about. Yes you pay for uniform, Yes you pay for rating, and your renewals, but once it's all done your setup with nothing else to pay. I've seen some starting salaries for major operators which pale in comparison to what RYR pay, and that's with a 4 year 20k bond!
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As someone earlier said before, they will find a way to get your money out of you.
I went to the assessment day before and it was a very interesting day - not only on Ryanair but just to meet likeminded people and get an insight into the aviation market. We got to see the sims, play in the cabin trainer, and got given a talk and presentation on what it's all about. Yes you pay for uniform, Yes you pay for rating, and your renewals, but once it's all done your setup with nothing else to pay. I've seen some starting salaries for major operators which pale in comparison to what RYR pay, and that's with a 4 year 20k bond!
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Honestly, I don't think some people live in the real world.
When I tell friends of mine who are not involved in aviation that Ryan Air charge 300 quid, just to interivew you, and 10 quid to attend a recruitment day they are agasp, some even break into laughter.
I challenge somebody to tell me of any other industry where you have to pay a company what for many people is a week's wages, just to interview you. You would not pay for an interview for any other job, so why why why do you think it is acceptable to pay for a ryan air one?
Flying is a job, from which you are supposed to make money, pay the mortgage etc, and thats all it is. A job which is better than most, and at times very enjoyable, but that's all it is. I sometimes think that a lot of wannabes have lost sight of the fundamental reason why they are in this game, and view getting a flying job as some ultimate dream, which they are going to follow no matter what the cost.
When I tell friends of mine who are not involved in aviation that Ryan Air charge 300 quid, just to interivew you, and 10 quid to attend a recruitment day they are agasp, some even break into laughter.
I challenge somebody to tell me of any other industry where you have to pay a company what for many people is a week's wages, just to interview you. You would not pay for an interview for any other job, so why why why do you think it is acceptable to pay for a ryan air one?
Flying is a job, from which you are supposed to make money, pay the mortgage etc, and thats all it is. A job which is better than most, and at times very enjoyable, but that's all it is. I sometimes think that a lot of wannabes have lost sight of the fundamental reason why they are in this game, and view getting a flying job as some ultimate dream, which they are going to follow no matter what the cost.