BALPA 2007 EOC Conference
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evening all,
has anyone got a job or even an interview out of this conference in the past? I guess those folks might not be reading this thread, however...
if its worthwhile, that would be great, but i dont want to spend 60 bucks plus petrol plus my saturday to stand in long lines of people being told no you cant fly for us because you havent got 20,000hrs flying the space shuttle! you can get that infojust by applying online!
also, i'd like to know what the real reason for the conference is.
has anyone got a job or even an interview out of this conference in the past? I guess those folks might not be reading this thread, however...
if its worthwhile, that would be great, but i dont want to spend 60 bucks plus petrol plus my saturday to stand in long lines of people being told no you cant fly for us because you havent got 20,000hrs flying the space shuttle! you can get that infojust by applying online!
also, i'd like to know what the real reason for the conference is.
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There will be 15-20 odd Airlines doing their respective presentations up to lunchtime, with a break for coffee which I think is paid for? During and after lunch, the stands will be manned. Where else sickbag can you speak to the airlines direct and assess their latest situation? I get the feeling the £60 is an issue here? Fortunately I have a nice line in printing bent £60 notes 
Make the best out of it. Any information will imo focus the mind toward the goal, which is why I went to the free PPRuNe seminar. But then if you have had all the advice and have been applying since forever, will you get anything out of it?
Make the best out of it. Any information will imo focus the mind toward the goal, which is why I went to the free PPRuNe seminar. But then if you have had all the advice and have been applying since forever, will you get anything out of it?
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I'd ignore dartagnan, he's just another A320rider in disguise.
I've just secured a refund on my ticket (begrudgingly) as I have a sim in the morning which won't finish until 1. Anyone who wants to let me know how it goes would be most appreciated
Horgy
I've just secured a refund on my ticket (begrudgingly) as I have a sim in the morning which won't finish until 1. Anyone who wants to let me know how it goes would be most appreciated
Horgy
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Wilco Mr H.
I will likely be in a navy blue stripy suit with a small PPRuNe lapel badge and sat at or near the front for the presentations. Come say hello.
I will likely be in a navy blue stripy suit with a small PPRuNe lapel badge and sat at or near the front for the presentations. Come say hello.
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I'll be the guy without a suit (but very smartly dressed) because I dont own one yet! A suit is on my list to get after my training!
See you guys tomorrow..
FMS
See you guys tomorrow..
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Truth, well I spent over £300 to go, hotel, drive down etc.... What I heard was this:
I don't have enough hours/experience for Virgin/ Etihad/ Emirates.
BA and others want integrated students.
Only two 737 operators there, I don't count BA as they will not look at you under 1000 hrs on type and they are not looking at recruiting at this moment in time.
Keep persisting and trying as you will make it, durrrrrr
Nothing I did not already know or am doing.
Waste of time and money
I don't have enough hours/experience for Virgin/ Etihad/ Emirates.
BA and others want integrated students.
Only two 737 operators there, I don't count BA as they will not look at you under 1000 hrs on type and they are not looking at recruiting at this moment in time.
Keep persisting and trying as you will make it, durrrrrr
Nothing I did not already know or am doing.
Waste of time and money
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To be fair, you could have not done so a lot cheaper?
Did you not try BMi Regional, FlyBe and DHL? They are more welcoming toward lower houred pilots.
And if there is one person worth speaking to there, it is Maggie at BALPA.
The conference (my first) seems to be twofold. 1. letting you know exactly what is going on at the major companies from the horses mouth or via BALPA 2. Giving you an appreciation of what BALPA is about and what they can do for you.
Sorry Mr Horgy, couldn't get any notes. I had my hands full... Any specific questions, shout out and I'll see if I can remember.
Did you not try BMi Regional, FlyBe and DHL? They are more welcoming toward lower houred pilots.
And if there is one person worth speaking to there, it is Maggie at BALPA.
The conference (my first) seems to be twofold. 1. letting you know exactly what is going on at the major companies from the horses mouth or via BALPA 2. Giving you an appreciation of what BALPA is about and what they can do for you.
Sorry Mr Horgy, couldn't get any notes. I had my hands full... Any specific questions, shout out and I'll see if I can remember.
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Thanks anyway, I had more fun in my sim :P
Ford Cortina seems to have summed up most of what I thought they might say, oh how I can't wait for the intergrated marketing machine to fall apart (note NOT the students, just the gloss) then maybe we'll level the playing field more.
Horgy
Thanks anyway, I had more fun in my sim :P
Ford Cortina seems to have summed up most of what I thought they might say, oh how I can't wait for the intergrated marketing machine to fall apart (note NOT the students, just the gloss) then maybe we'll level the playing field more.
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A worthwhile day I thought as I have set myself a target position to be in in 12 months time when things are thought to be more promising.
Was amazed at how many low hours Oxford/Cabair guys and girls where there who hadn't got a job since finishing in recent months. Was also amazed I met only 2 other Flying Instructors. Quite a few military guys there who may well have been dissuaded from leaving for the time being.
My plan is by this time next year to have over 1000 hours and within that a couple hundred multi IFR.
Was amazed at how many low hours Oxford/Cabair guys and girls where there who hadn't got a job since finishing in recent months. Was also amazed I met only 2 other Flying Instructors. Quite a few military guys there who may well have been dissuaded from leaving for the time being.
My plan is by this time next year to have over 1000 hours and within that a couple hundred multi IFR.
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To be absolutely fair to BALPA, my union, they put on a good event.
However watching BA and Emirates point score and show us that lovely photo of a A380, or even a 787 is not my idea of fun.
I have no bias toward BALPA or any of the companies there, I did get to speak to one or two people but I found the experience to be rather a let down.
Just to sum up the cost issue.....
BALPA EOC Charge £60.
Fuel cost in my Car £140.
Hotel (as I did not wish to be all bleary eyed) £100.
IF I had go the train, apart from the time involved it would have cost me £150.
BlueRobin I do not have any problem with you and noticed that you were helping out, good for you, if It gets you a job then thats great.
Regionals are not going to offer me a job, because once I have a better offer on a 737 I am bound to leave! Similar with DHL, as I have no real intention of undertaking yet another Type Rating.
The event was well organised and managed, it is not BALPA's fault that the Big Companies were well represented, it just would have been nice to see people from other Loco's, like Easy and Jet 2 even if they were, which they are not at the moment, recruiting in high numbers.
Edited to add, sorry about it all being bunched up together but for some reason i cannot put paragraphs in, maybe it's the wine!
However watching BA and Emirates point score and show us that lovely photo of a A380, or even a 787 is not my idea of fun.
I have no bias toward BALPA or any of the companies there, I did get to speak to one or two people but I found the experience to be rather a let down.
Just to sum up the cost issue.....
BALPA EOC Charge £60.
Fuel cost in my Car £140.
Hotel (as I did not wish to be all bleary eyed) £100.
IF I had go the train, apart from the time involved it would have cost me £150.
BlueRobin I do not have any problem with you and noticed that you were helping out, good for you, if It gets you a job then thats great.
Regionals are not going to offer me a job, because once I have a better offer on a 737 I am bound to leave! Similar with DHL, as I have no real intention of undertaking yet another Type Rating.
The event was well organised and managed, it is not BALPA's fault that the Big Companies were well represented, it just would have been nice to see people from other Loco's, like Easy and Jet 2 even if they were, which they are not at the moment, recruiting in high numbers.
Edited to add, sorry about it all being bunched up together but for some reason i cannot put paragraphs in, maybe it's the wine!
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you serious? I suspect it is one that like to "harp" on a lot.
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Hi All,
I thought the day was very informative and it lifted my spirits up after listening to the Guy's who made it. Especially the poor sod who broke is leg and was dropped twice from airline sponsorship schemes (nothing to do with him).
I've come away with a plan and a time scale which would of been impossible to do without yesterday.
Big thanks to BALPA !
Orvil
I thought the day was very informative and it lifted my spirits up after listening to the Guy's who made it. Especially the poor sod who broke is leg and was dropped twice from airline sponsorship schemes (nothing to do with him).
I've come away with a plan and a time scale which would of been impossible to do without yesterday.
Big thanks to BALPA !
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Can somebody post a quick summary of what each airline had to say please. From what I can gather from the above posts, it isn't quite a rosy as perhpas some of us (including myself) thought.
Unfortunately, I couldn't get back from the desert in time to go myself, so any feedback would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Unfortunately, I couldn't get back from the desert in time to go myself, so any feedback would be much appreciated.
Thanks