Sigmar/My Travel A320 self funding
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Alteon/My travel type rating programme
Hey Guys,
The Alteon/My travel type rating programme management came to my integrated school a couple of months ago to give a presentation. Perhaps it was the first time they had done the presentation but I know of no one present in the room who was impressed with their offer and no one since who has even considered it as an option.
Their presentation was very much focused on the fact that candidates WILL end up working for Mytravel and even dared to talk at length about staff pay and what it is like working for Mytravel!.... so we asked:
"Are we guaranteed a job with Mytravel on successful completion?"
"eer.. No." (Obviously)
Following on from this question, someone asked if they had any facts and figures on likely placement numbers. I can’t remember the exact answer but it was something like - it was the first time they were running the course, so they had no idea how successful the placement record would be or the likely numbers of FOs Mytravel will need in the future.
"Where will line training take place?"
Ans - Don't know. Could be anywhere. Also might change from flight to flight.
"How long will line training take?"
Ans - Don't know.
"Why are you so much more expensive than other type rating operators?"
Ans - Blah, Blah, Blah... "Because we offer a far more stringent testing procedure." (??????)
"So, why should we choose you over GECAT or others?"
Ans - a short silence, followed by blah, blah, blah, we think our course is great... management speak, then a bit about how fantastic Mytravel is. (Completely unconvincing answer.)
At the end of the presentation the CE of our school got up to say a few words and even he (sensing the mood of the audience) basically apologised for wasting our time!
No one asked any questions about how to apply, course dates etc… in fact the whole thing was laughable.
Good for you if you’ve decided it is the course for you; I honestly wish all wannabes every success, i know how difficult the road ahead looks.
As for myself and my colleagues, some have now decided to go with other type rating providers (with proven track records and 300hrs line training) and the rest of us are in the recruitment process only for airlines that provide type ratings.
The Alteon/My travel type rating programme management came to my integrated school a couple of months ago to give a presentation. Perhaps it was the first time they had done the presentation but I know of no one present in the room who was impressed with their offer and no one since who has even considered it as an option.
Their presentation was very much focused on the fact that candidates WILL end up working for Mytravel and even dared to talk at length about staff pay and what it is like working for Mytravel!.... so we asked:
"Are we guaranteed a job with Mytravel on successful completion?"
"eer.. No." (Obviously)
Following on from this question, someone asked if they had any facts and figures on likely placement numbers. I can’t remember the exact answer but it was something like - it was the first time they were running the course, so they had no idea how successful the placement record would be or the likely numbers of FOs Mytravel will need in the future.
"Where will line training take place?"
Ans - Don't know. Could be anywhere. Also might change from flight to flight.
"How long will line training take?"
Ans - Don't know.
"Why are you so much more expensive than other type rating operators?"
Ans - Blah, Blah, Blah... "Because we offer a far more stringent testing procedure." (??????)
"So, why should we choose you over GECAT or others?"
Ans - a short silence, followed by blah, blah, blah, we think our course is great... management speak, then a bit about how fantastic Mytravel is. (Completely unconvincing answer.)
At the end of the presentation the CE of our school got up to say a few words and even he (sensing the mood of the audience) basically apologised for wasting our time!
No one asked any questions about how to apply, course dates etc… in fact the whole thing was laughable.
Good for you if you’ve decided it is the course for you; I honestly wish all wannabes every success, i know how difficult the road ahead looks.
As for myself and my colleagues, some have now decided to go with other type rating providers (with proven track records and 300hrs line training) and the rest of us are in the recruitment process only for airlines that provide type ratings.
Last edited by ttoam; 18th Jan 2007 at 13:05.
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Here's a dilemma. GECAT or Alteon/My Travel. I am going to have to go with the former as it's a more trusted and proven route. Having just been accepted onto the GECAT Pilot Program, and it's cheaper and they help get your foot in the door with an airline, I have to do what is best for me. Yes I know I'm paying for the type, but I think it is worth it as I won't be bonded to an airline on a ****e salary and will probably get an interview orchestrated from GECAT.
+ Not sure I trust Sigmar in finding a job at the end of their scheme. My gut feeling now is that after the 150 hours on type with MYT, you would be left on your own, and back at square 1 sending out the CVs and not even getting a snifter of a reply or even a PFO letter.
+ Not sure I trust Sigmar in finding a job at the end of their scheme. My gut feeling now is that after the 150 hours on type with MYT, you would be left on your own, and back at square 1 sending out the CVs and not even getting a snifter of a reply or even a PFO letter.
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nuclear weapon...
MYT are hardly making money out of this scheme. True they've saving on a first officers salary (well really, you'd be a second officer). MYT are purely the airline picked by Sigmar to give quality training as they have very many experienced line trainers.
Also, MYT are limited to how many in experienced pilots are allowed to be in the airline, as are many.
MYT are hardly making money out of this scheme. True they've saving on a first officers salary (well really, you'd be a second officer). MYT are purely the airline picked by Sigmar to give quality training as they have very many experienced line trainers.
Also, MYT are limited to how many in experienced pilots are allowed to be in the airline, as are many.
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May I offer you support in what appears to be a sea of antagonism? You have clearly thought through your decision which is made for the harshest economic and sound reasons. Good luck with whichever course you finally decide on, and I look forward to reading your diary with interest.
It's horses for courses, and an option not available to all, but if you have decided to go down the type rating route, having weighed up all the options available to YOU and NOW then who's fit to criticise?
May I offer you support in what appears to be a sea of antagonism? You have clearly thought through your decision which is made for the harshest economic and sound reasons. Good luck with whichever course you finally decide on, and I look forward to reading your diary with interest.
It's horses for courses, and an option not available to all, but if you have decided to go down the type rating route, having weighed up all the options available to YOU and NOW then who's fit to criticise?
