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The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.

Old 22nd Feb 2008, 11:25
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Stage 2 on 14th of mars in Bournemouth. Any one else?

I'll go the 13th.
If anyone wants to contact me, my e-mail is [email protected]
Please, Title the e-mail as CTC.

See you there!
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Old 23rd Feb 2008, 13:45
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CP61

Hey everyone,
just a quick shout to see if anyone has passed stage 4 and has been placed on course CP61, so far there's 6 of us. Just wondered if anyone else had got put on the course. Join the group on face book if you have!

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Old 24th Feb 2008, 16:56
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phase 3

can anyone tell me if there is a fee required for phase 3 as with phase 2 please?
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Old 24th Feb 2008, 19:06
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Hello everyone,

I was wondering if the test in stage 2 is similar to the COMPASS test, that one that Oxford Aviation uses??

Cheers

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Old 24th Feb 2008, 19:34
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Hi Alin83,

CTC use the pilapt software http://www.pilapt.com/

Don't know how that compares to COMPASS

Hope this helps

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Old 24th Feb 2008, 19:40
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Thanks for the link CapCon!

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Old 24th Feb 2008, 19:52
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Pilapt-prep is practice software that you can buy. The link should take you to the Pilapt homepage.

Click on 'product' and then click on 'test'. This will give you a slideshow of the tests involved, albeit a very quick glimpse.

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Old 24th Feb 2008, 23:40
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Unhappy

Got an e-mail after phase 3 saying come back in a year. Bit of a disappointment but I wasn't well prepared for the technical questions and I made stupid mistakes. I've had another offer and I'm not sure what to do now. I can't see myself waiting 'til next year si I'm probably off elsewhere even though CTC is the place to be. Their loss. Good luck with phase 4 and all the best.
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Old 25th Feb 2008, 09:33
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I was wondering if anyone has more information about the numeracy test, is it problem solving?? Or mental calculations? Do they allow the use of calculator?? Any website with some sample questions?

Thanks
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Old 25th Feb 2008, 10:04
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Originally Posted by Alin83
I was wondering if anyone has more information about the numeracy test, is it problem solving?? Or mental calculations? Do they allow the use of calculator?? Any website with some sample questions?
It's simply reading and understanding the question, finding the relevant information and applying the necessary addition, subtraction, long multiplication or division.

You'll have one minute for each question so time is of the essence. You can't use a calculator, just pen and paper.
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Old 25th Feb 2008, 10:39
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Thanks for the reply 99jolegg!

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Old 25th Feb 2008, 13:35
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The questions were very simple - just make sure you know things like seating configurations on different aircraft and have a succinct explanation of the basics like flybywire etc so that you don't come over as a pleb. To be honest I had to wait 3 hours for my interview so I wasn't very revved up when I went in the room and it showed. Make sure you ask them to clarify any technical questions before you makwe afool of yourself. I thought we were talking about the767 when we were raelly talking about the 757. If you have a favourite aircraft, it may be sensible to read in depth about it i.e. how it has developed and what it is used for. If in doubt say 'I'm not sure about that - what is the answer? - I do know this...........' and I'm sure it'll be fine.

I've had some VERY good news today so I'm back in the clouds.

Best of luck.
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Old 25th Feb 2008, 15:39
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Thumbs up

Some of the numeracy questions are VERY straightforward and take literally three or four seconds, others might take a little longer so don't panic if you spend more than a minute on the odd one. I had a few minutes spare to go back and look over my answers. It's not as hard as FTE, it's just basic number-crunching. I think they let people repeat it in any case.

A little tip is to immediately discount the answer which is obviously the odd one out AND cannot be right - it will jump out at you. You'll have fewer to choose from then and you may find that the answer becomes obvious before you've even reached the end of your calculation. In any case you have got quarter of an hour so if you get yourself to a point where you've done, say, seven questions in five minutes, you'll be sitting pretty with only eight questions to do in 10 minutes. You're doing these sums without a plane-load of passengers behind you so use it as a personal test to see how you cope with a little bit of stress. You are essentially testing yourself, you're just using their computers. Don't let the clock distract you - you have plenty of time and the pressure is all in your mind so you have to tell yourself that it's a simple game which is not asking much of you. The adrenaline will flow and you'll enjoy yourself - I promise.
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Old 25th Feb 2008, 17:59
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Oli,

Can I just say... Whats flybywire?

I know relatively little about aeroplanes and layouts but i was told by CTC thats not particularly important. Im focussing on dynamics of flight and understanding the airline industry. At the end of the day, the planes will change, but the physics and the industry (generally) wont.
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Old 25th Feb 2008, 18:25
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fly-by-wire is the flight control on the airbus which means that you cannot stall the aircraft by pulling the flight stick back too far etc. It essentially means tht instead of straightforward mechanical/hydraulic linkages from the flight controls to the elevators etc, there are electrical (i.e. wire) linkages so that the flight computer can stop the pilot from flying outside the aircraft's limits.

I take your point on flight dynamics - I agree and wish I had been asked only on those universal laws of flight but the point is I wasn't. I was asked about existing aircraft and their characteristics. Fly-by-wire is on all airbuses (and 777s) and is here to stay so I would class it as basic knowledge. My knowledge of it isn't great but they just seem to want you to have a general idea.

You may also want to consider that some aircraft have been around for 40+ years (747) and so the aircraft being produced at the moment may not actually change that much within your career. Also, whether the aircraft change or not, you will be flying the planes we have today to begin with.

I was also asked whether certain aircraft were wide-bodied or not and things like that.
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Old 25th Feb 2008, 22:08
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You really should know the difference between the type of aircraft you could fly, espcially the difference between boeing and airbus.
You would enter the scheme and be flying in around 2 years so the planes around today and are the ones you will be flying when you finish.
Things such as Boeing Airbus differences are general knowledge within the aviation industry so you should really know at least a little about it.

Also for those guys who were talking about application age a few posts back - I'm out in NZ with CTC at the moment and two of the guys on our CP are 19 so applying young needn't be a problem. That said I think the average is around mid 20s with most people I think having a degree.
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Old 26th Feb 2008, 07:07
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Sparks stop loitering in PPRuNe and go do some tracker. :P
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Old 26th Feb 2008, 19:25
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Well Oli thanks for the info because i was under-prepared before that!! Ill need ot go do some research!!!!!
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Old 26th Feb 2008, 21:52
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remember that each interview varies, i do avionics engineering and i didnt get asked a single technical question to my dissapointment! (they must think because of my degree i should know it already!) all i got asked about was a typical day of a pilot(went into a lot of detail!) and some potential hiccups and emergencies in the air. Went into leadership in some detail aswell.....It is a good experience despite the hairline retreating north during the course of the day! lol
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Old 26th Feb 2008, 22:24
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despite the hairline retreating north during the course of the day
Not just during the day! I must have lost 2 inches off my hairline in the 2 weeks since Phase 2! I'll be bald by this Thursday

Good luck to all on Phase 3 on the 28th. See you there
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