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The 450 pilots have been floating around for some time and rumor has it they are close to that number at the moment. Then again there are some rumors that should never be believed
Call me negative but I'm pretty sure CTC are not capable of training 450 pilots in 3 months! Nursling has some very good facilities but no where near enough capacity to train that number. Even if they pulled a miracle out of the bag and did the ground school for that number, there's no where near the sim capacity in the UK or Europe to finish the ratings or the trainers to do it!
As Mooneyboy (how you doin my friend!!) and others have said the holding pool is quite small and could be drained empty by just 2 type training courses. I hope that will happen just after xmas once easy get their training side sorted (I say easyJet because they are the by far the biggest users from CTC).
My view is the courses going through at the moment are refresher courses for DEP's and TRSS. These guys and gals normally only need 20 odd sectors for line training and can be online pretty quick. As an ex CTC ATP'er I had to wait near on 3 months before starting line training at easy and then had close to 50 sectors before final line check.
To all you treading water in the pool, keep your head above water and keep in the back of your head you could be in a far far worse situation!
Merry xmas
Splashdown
The 450 pilots have been floating around for some time and rumor has it they are close to that number at the moment. Then again there are some rumors that should never be believed
Call me negative but I'm pretty sure CTC are not capable of training 450 pilots in 3 months! Nursling has some very good facilities but no where near enough capacity to train that number. Even if they pulled a miracle out of the bag and did the ground school for that number, there's no where near the sim capacity in the UK or Europe to finish the ratings or the trainers to do it!
As Mooneyboy (how you doin my friend!!) and others have said the holding pool is quite small and could be drained empty by just 2 type training courses. I hope that will happen just after xmas once easy get their training side sorted (I say easyJet because they are the by far the biggest users from CTC).
My view is the courses going through at the moment are refresher courses for DEP's and TRSS. These guys and gals normally only need 20 odd sectors for line training and can be online pretty quick. As an ex CTC ATP'er I had to wait near on 3 months before starting line training at easy and then had close to 50 sectors before final line check.
To all you treading water in the pool, keep your head above water and keep in the back of your head you could be in a far far worse situation!
Merry xmas
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As for the requirement by Monarch for approximately 6-8 pilots over the winter period, I have heard through the grapevine that these positions would be filled by Wings Cadets and not ATP.
So, my best style of doggy paddle still needed to keep afloat in the pool, but the future still looks orange (easy jet shade hopefully!).
So, my best style of doggy paddle still needed to keep afloat in the pool, but the future still looks orange (easy jet shade hopefully!).
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I'm confused at this Monarch chat, as I spoke to a guy from Monarch recently who stated they're now fully crewed for this recruitment drive.
I suppose it could mean they've factored in CTC pilots. I know they're starting the first TR course with CTC on the 5th Feb.
I suppose it could mean they've factored in CTC pilots. I know they're starting the first TR course with CTC on the 5th Feb.
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hi chocksaway
did your email include all the other atachments you spoke of??
Ive not heard anything bak from easy about my app!!! AHHH ah well bak to treading water think im developing gills in here ha ha ha !!!
hope your well buddy enjoy italy ??
Dragstrut
did your email include all the other atachments you spoke of??
Ive not heard anything bak from easy about my app!!! AHHH ah well bak to treading water think im developing gills in here ha ha ha !!!
hope your well buddy enjoy italy ??
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Yup.. with the attachments. I think things seem to be a bit slow at the recruitment dept. You may still get the email but can probably ignore it!
Italy was great but had a slight dampner put on it when I got the news (not blaming your phonecall - I would've checked my mail later that day). Flew out on an EZA319 thinking it was my new office - not the case on the way back unforch... oh well. We'll get there in the end.
Italy was great but had a slight dampner put on it when I got the news (not blaming your phonecall - I would've checked my mail later that day). Flew out on an EZA319 thinking it was my new office - not the case on the way back unforch... oh well. We'll get there in the end.
Does anyone know how people in the CTC holdpool are selected out and then put forward to the airlines? Is it on a basis of 'first in first out' or is it done differently? Just curious.
Hi Splashdown, good to see your still on pprune. I'm quickly adapting to the pool and things are going good. Hope your flying is going well.
All the best,
Mooneyboy
Hi Splashdown, good to see your still on pprune. I'm quickly adapting to the pool and things are going good. Hope your flying is going well.
All the best,
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This explains why there are so many swimming in the pool for a good few months now - it's because they scored badly in the AQC...
Hope this helps...
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You couldn't be more wrong according to the info I have from CTC.
People are put in the order of the AQC's. June AQC people go before July AQC's etc. And if say, the July AQC's are the next to go and only one spot at a TR is available, CTC will randomly pick a person from that AQC.
Thor
You couldn't be more wrong according to the info I have from CTC.
People are put in the order of the AQC's. June AQC people go before July AQC's etc. And if say, the July AQC's are the next to go and only one spot at a TR is available, CTC will randomly pick a person from that AQC.
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I'm only passing on information that I have heard from a variety of sources. Don't shoot the messenger, after all this is a rumour network
A couple of the ace pilots such as "Cardboard" and "RocketBoy" have apparently moved to the top of the pile based on exeptional ability and multi - tasking!
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I'm fairly certain AustralianGoose is joking. At least I hope so.
Thorer is right. Also, within AQC groups, if you have a particularly good reason to start earlier than your classmates (e.g. IR about to expire) let them know and maybe you'll be given priority rather than subjected to the name-out-of-hat method.
Thorer is right. Also, within AQC groups, if you have a particularly good reason to start earlier than your classmates (e.g. IR about to expire) let them know and maybe you'll be given priority rather than subjected to the name-out-of-hat method.
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Hold Pool and cuddly toys
Hiya Guys and Gals
For all you CTC holdpool'ers, who may or may not know this already, I've heard from a good contact in the industry that Thomas Cook will be dipping into the pool and taking around 6-8 pilots for line flying with them during summer 2007! Things are looking up for you lot I would suggest.
Also, anyone recently in the Southsmpton area know anything about/ seen a cuddly bear floating around anywhere? Any info. would be really appreciated.
Happy Days.
For all you CTC holdpool'ers, who may or may not know this already, I've heard from a good contact in the industry that Thomas Cook will be dipping into the pool and taking around 6-8 pilots for line flying with them during summer 2007! Things are looking up for you lot I would suggest.
Also, anyone recently in the Southsmpton area know anything about/ seen a cuddly bear floating around anywhere? Any info. would be really appreciated.
Happy Days.
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Has someone lost their Teddy then
I did in fact see a naked bear running across the highway late at night after a sim session, looked to me like he had the fear of God in his eyes! Last seem disappearing into the New Forest...
Regarding the ThomsonFly uptake - we all recieved a mail last week from Jo that detailed this, thanks for the heads up though but unfortunately it's not going to change the current situation
Anybody got any good news? Would be nice if what AustralianGoose said about 450 pilots needed by March were true! Scheez that would mean the next AQC would have 300 students
Unless of course he knows something we don't....Take care all....
PS: Will keep my eyes peeled for the Teddy Bear...
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TartanFlyer - Mate I feel your pain, once I to lost my Teddy - for days I clung onto any glimmer of hope. The phone would ring and my heart would skip a beat, there would be a knock at the door and I would have to catch my breath. Teddy never did come back, those were my darkest days and I ended up celebrating my 5th birthday without him
Judging by your username I assume that not all the Scots are clinging onto their Teddy whilst watching the TeleTubbies after the age of...oooh lets say, 10
ThomsonFly news is old news unfortunately....
Judging by your username I assume that not all the Scots are clinging onto their Teddy whilst watching the TeleTubbies after the age of...oooh lets say, 10
ThomsonFly news is old news unfortunately....
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Not wishing to be pedantic but rather to prevent any confusion/rumours, it's Thomas Cook (as Saffer probably knows). But you're right - it's a piddly number and hardly going to affect the pool at all. As soon as EZ sorts out it's Line Training issues they'll be hauling us out in our droves.
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Gooseman- Indeed, those days are now, I regret to say, a very very distant memory however.
The request for info. on this bear is actually on behalf of a friend of mine. I'm afraid he's going to be disappointed though, as I'm reliably informed his bear, without wanting to go into too much detail, was clothed head to toe in TOPGUN attire. I believe the bear you saw (quote): "...running across the street..." was naked? Ah well, we can but hope...
Saffer- As Chocks correctly points out, the demand in from Thomas Cook and NOT Thomsonfly, I believe the latter in fully crewed for the forthcoming season, although you holdpool guys are doubtless in a more knowledgable position than myself, so do correct me if I'm wrong.
The request for info. on this bear is actually on behalf of a friend of mine. I'm afraid he's going to be disappointed though, as I'm reliably informed his bear, without wanting to go into too much detail, was clothed head to toe in TOPGUN attire. I believe the bear you saw (quote): "...running across the street..." was naked? Ah well, we can but hope...
Saffer- As Chocks correctly points out, the demand in from Thomas Cook and NOT Thomsonfly, I believe the latter in fully crewed for the forthcoming season, although you holdpool guys are doubtless in a more knowledgable position than myself, so do correct me if I'm wrong.
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The request for info. on this bear is actually on behalf of a friend of mine. I'm afraid he's going to be disappointed though, as I'm reliably informed his bear, without wanting to go into too much detail, was clothed head to toe in TOPGUN attire. I believe the bear you saw (quote): "...running across the street..." was naked? Ah well, we can but hope...
The bear I saw was naked, but hey he was wearing a pair of Ray Ban Aviators...
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Hey All - did anybody ever get to the bottom of the Monarch story as to whether the uptake was to be from the ATP pool or are they taking cadets
TartanFlyer you wouldn't happen to be the same Scotsman who demonstrated impeccable skills with the Belgium women recently, if so I bow down before thee in admiration always...
TartanFlyer you wouldn't happen to be the same Scotsman who demonstrated impeccable skills with the Belgium women recently, if so I bow down before thee in admiration always...