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Hi guys,
I'm evaluating the possibility to get a TR on 737 and two Training centres give us a little discount if we go there already in two people. Is there somebody interested?
The following are the costs:
- Sabena Flight Academy (special prices "summer camp" until September): 737 Classic 23000 € base check INCLUDED (flight tickets to get to Bruxelles discounted if flying with SN Bruxelles); plus a little discount but not a lot to save for two people cause the prices are already with discount. They also say "about 60 airlines in contact with us to find you the first job" (mah...)
Next start date: 17th July.
- Intercockpit: 737 Classic+NG about 26-27000€ base check INCLUDED and 3% discount if going already in two people. Note: CBT sent to your home in a laptop so you can save hotel money for about 15 days. They have also the Job Engine. Starting date on request.
These are two good offers with high standard training (Sabena and Lufthansa), the first one is very good but no NG differential course (only in september 2007), the second one include the NG with a good price.
Please, I know that paying for a TR without hours on it it's not heaven but don't let this thread become the same as many others. Reply only if interested or with advices for jobs
Regards,
Davide
I'm evaluating the possibility to get a TR on 737 and two Training centres give us a little discount if we go there already in two people. Is there somebody interested?
The following are the costs:
- Sabena Flight Academy (special prices "summer camp" until September): 737 Classic 23000 € base check INCLUDED (flight tickets to get to Bruxelles discounted if flying with SN Bruxelles); plus a little discount but not a lot to save for two people cause the prices are already with discount. They also say "about 60 airlines in contact with us to find you the first job" (mah...)
Next start date: 17th July.
- Intercockpit: 737 Classic+NG about 26-27000€ base check INCLUDED and 3% discount if going already in two people. Note: CBT sent to your home in a laptop so you can save hotel money for about 15 days. They have also the Job Engine. Starting date on request.
These are two good offers with high standard training (Sabena and Lufthansa), the first one is very good but no NG differential course (only in september 2007), the second one include the NG with a good price.
Please, I know that paying for a TR without hours on it it's not heaven but don't let this thread become the same as many others. Reply only if interested or with advices for jobs
Regards,
Davide
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If the airline requires you to have both, you only have to do a difference course. And in most case the airline will arrange it for you.
Don’t pay extra for things you don’t need!
You don’t buy an A320 and B737 just to have more chases to get a job, do you?
Don’t pay extra for things you don’t need!
You don’t buy an A320 and B737 just to have more chases to get a job, do you?
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I know that, but no airlines pay for a differtial course a young pilot! Cause maybe there is another one with your same experience with already th NG.
It's not like 2 type rating, but as in one course you pay less than making first Classic then differential....(the last that surely you have to pay...)
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It's not like 2 type rating, but as in one course you pay less than making first Classic then differential....(the last that surely you have to pay...)
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I know it's not like two different type ratings, if fact the difference is not that big between NG and classic.
My advice to you. Do the classic rating, (cheaper).
If the airline requires you to have the NG do a difference course, otherwise no
If you want to get a job quick, invest your money on hours on type instead.
My advice to you. Do the classic rating, (cheaper).
If the airline requires you to have the NG do a difference course, otherwise no
If you want to get a job quick, invest your money on hours on type instead.
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One side of the coin could be the right choice, but the other side says that if I apply myself to a NG Airline and other pilots are applying with the NG already printed on the licence, the airline doesn't wait for me to get the differential course....
With only 300 hours you can't say "Ok, I'm more experienced of that guys that have 250 but with NG"..... there is no plusvalue.
But, if I was a 3000 TT of wich 1500 on turboprop, 737 classic TR, I think the airline could tell me "Ok, go for TR on 737 NG".
I DON'T spend money to build airlines hours, never! It's enought depressing to spend money for the TR.
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Davide
With only 300 hours you can't say "Ok, I'm more experienced of that guys that have 250 but with NG"..... there is no plusvalue.
But, if I was a 3000 TT of wich 1500 on turboprop, 737 classic TR, I think the airline could tell me "Ok, go for TR on 737 NG".
I DON'T spend money to build airlines hours, never! It's enought depressing to spend money for the TR.
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I did a TR on the NG and unfortunately I found out that finding a job isn't easy at all, especially not after 6 months...
So what I would do if I was you; Do the type rating on either the NG or the CL, and then wait and see how the job situation develops. If you still haven't found a job after 6 months, do the difference training. That way you can say that you have been current within the last six months which is a requirement by many airlines.
And by the way; No matter what, you will still have to do some training with the airline before you can fly on-line. E.g. at Thomsonfly you will have to do approx 5 days of theory and a few sessions on the simulator. -And that is the same for everybody, also the experienced pilots, so I am pretty sure that it will count as difference training, if required.
But to give you a real advice on this matter... Don't do it without a job guarantee, or at least the possibility to purchase line training.
I don't know any low timers who have done a type rating on the 737 during the past year who has found a job without paying for line training... And that includes about 10-15 pilots...
I have been fortunate enough to be employed by Tfly on the 757/767 fleet, so I never get a chance to use my rating...
But that’s is just an advice from a fellow pilot who have been down that road as well...
Good luck! ;o)
So what I would do if I was you; Do the type rating on either the NG or the CL, and then wait and see how the job situation develops. If you still haven't found a job after 6 months, do the difference training. That way you can say that you have been current within the last six months which is a requirement by many airlines.
And by the way; No matter what, you will still have to do some training with the airline before you can fly on-line. E.g. at Thomsonfly you will have to do approx 5 days of theory and a few sessions on the simulator. -And that is the same for everybody, also the experienced pilots, so I am pretty sure that it will count as difference training, if required.
But to give you a real advice on this matter... Don't do it without a job guarantee, or at least the possibility to purchase line training.
I don't know any low timers who have done a type rating on the 737 during the past year who has found a job without paying for line training... And that includes about 10-15 pilots...
I have been fortunate enough to be employed by Tfly on the 757/767 fleet, so I never get a chance to use my rating...
But that’s is just an advice from a fellow pilot who have been down that road as well...
Good luck! ;o)
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Hi again.
Well I did my rating with DanFly-aviation. Which was very terrible in my opinion!! However we were moved to CAE in Amsterdam half way through the course, so it turned out to be just fine... But CAE holds the credit for that!
Among the pilots that I am referring to, are pilots from both Flügschule Berlin and DanFly-Aviation. However the school really doesn’t matter when you have the endorsement in your license. The only thing that matters is any possible arrangements/connections the TRTO's have. However most of the time they are just telling you stories in order to make sure that you enrol on there course...
A good way to see how many pilots who actually have found a job, is to check the TRTO's web-sides as they normally write about any pilots hired directly from there TRTO's, which normally is limited to a very few....
Why don't you try your luck with CTC? That is a much more safe way to spend your money - I think!
Well I did my rating with DanFly-aviation. Which was very terrible in my opinion!! However we were moved to CAE in Amsterdam half way through the course, so it turned out to be just fine... But CAE holds the credit for that!
Among the pilots that I am referring to, are pilots from both Flügschule Berlin and DanFly-Aviation. However the school really doesn’t matter when you have the endorsement in your license. The only thing that matters is any possible arrangements/connections the TRTO's have. However most of the time they are just telling you stories in order to make sure that you enrol on there course...
A good way to see how many pilots who actually have found a job, is to check the TRTO's web-sides as they normally write about any pilots hired directly from there TRTO's, which normally is limited to a very few....
Why don't you try your luck with CTC? That is a much more safe way to spend your money - I think!
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Why don't you try your luck with CTC? That is a much more safe way to spend your money - I think!
I'm not sure of their assessments/money unrefundable. I don't want to be moved out and spent 5000€.
But I'll inform for that.
However the school really doesn’t matter when you have the endorsement in your license. The only thing that matters is any possible arrangements/connections the TRTO's have
Did you try to send your CV to ALL airlines with 737? Africa, middle east, Asia?
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Concerning CTC. I didn't try CTC, because I thought doing the TR was a better choice. However this turned out to be a bad call... If I should spend the money again I would definitely try my luck with CTC, as most of the major airlines in the UK accept low timers from CTC.. And you only have to pay 164, 50 pounds for the selection... And I am pretty sure that you won't be offered a space on there course unless they are sudden that you will make it... Because they have MANY applicants..
http://www.ctcaviation.com/wings/0403.html
When I applied to Tfly I had 210 hours, and with no relatives or friends who could help me in. ;o)
And yes I have send CV's to all possible airlines, but most of them didn't even reply.... And I was only invited once, and that was with Tfly...
/BAP
http://www.ctcaviation.com/wings/0403.html
When I applied to Tfly I had 210 hours, and with no relatives or friends who could help me in. ;o)
And yes I have send CV's to all possible airlines, but most of them didn't even reply.... And I was only invited once, and that was with Tfly...
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CTC tells on the wings programme that you have to pass the Airline qualification course before advancing to the Type Rating phase (done with the airline that hire you and it pay your TR). As the ACQ cost is about 5500 to 6500 $ (about 10000€), if you don't pass the ACQ you lose your money! I think it's so, if not correct me. On the page "selection" it seems so...
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If you don't pass the TR then you lose E 28000!!!
The AQC is a course designed to prepare you for the TR.It's a much better scheme than "pay your own rating and good luck finding a job",as it will give you a job at the end of it.
whatever your choice I wish you the best of luck,it's a jungle out there.
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The AQC is a course designed to prepare you for the TR.It's a much better scheme than "pay your own rating and good luck finding a job",as it will give you a job at the end of it.
whatever your choice I wish you the best of luck,it's a jungle out there.
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Guys, i've already spread my opinion about it but i'll try again and perhaps you won't lose your hard earned money in a useless piece of paper.
I have a 737CL+NG TR since march when employment market was even better than it is today, three of my closest friends have the same rating and we are ALL still unemployed.
I have send approx 80 tailored letters all reviewed by english natives (i'm not) to avoid any spelling or grammatical mistakes, so nothing's wrong on my side.
Sad but true some TRTO are also selling hours on that type. Guess what ? The waiting list ist endless, about 1 year long.
The actual situation on the 737 market ?
TR without hours = no chance at all
TR with 100h = not better, in fact only ryanair could employ you
In my opinion you should try another type (turboprop especially) because the 737 TR is so "cheap" nowadays that everybody is jumping on it.
Actually this rating is totally useless unless you have hours on type in a fairly large amount (probably 500 on type but i would'nt bet on it). Believe me, i'm on the 737 market right now, so i know what i'm talking about.
I really don't know what to expect with +500 on type, i suppose you *could* find employement in a 6-12 month timeframe.
I have a 737CL+NG TR since march when employment market was even better than it is today, three of my closest friends have the same rating and we are ALL still unemployed.
I have send approx 80 tailored letters all reviewed by english natives (i'm not) to avoid any spelling or grammatical mistakes, so nothing's wrong on my side.
Sad but true some TRTO are also selling hours on that type. Guess what ? The waiting list ist endless, about 1 year long.
The actual situation on the 737 market ?
TR without hours = no chance at all
TR with 100h = not better, in fact only ryanair could employ you
In my opinion you should try another type (turboprop especially) because the 737 TR is so "cheap" nowadays that everybody is jumping on it.
Actually this rating is totally useless unless you have hours on type in a fairly large amount (probably 500 on type but i would'nt bet on it). Believe me, i'm on the 737 market right now, so i know what i'm talking about.
I really don't know what to expect with +500 on type, i suppose you *could* find employement in a 6-12 month timeframe.