Thomsonfly (merged)

[nuclear weapon]

Thomsonfly online application.

I checked thomsonfly's website this morning and they said they are currrentlly recruiting flight crews and followed the link however it led to nothing or they've hidden it somewhere where it cant be found.
Will any of you guys who have been rejected or sucessfull with them post the appropriate link here.
Its worth giving them a try. And does anyone know why flybe are currently delaying thier launch of their online app form. My guess is the age requirements they are going to be forced to do away with. I am pretty sure on the new for they will most likely ask for when you got your college degree if you have any and take it to be an average age of 24/25.

[SinBin]

Thomsonfly Recruitment '07

Apparently they're recruiting FO/SOs, but according to PPJN you need a TR, anyone know what's happening here and whether they'll be taking newbies on without a TR?

[TurboJ]

From their website:

Type Rated Second Officers Only
If you are a Second Officer and have a current B737 or B757/767 type rating and a minimum of 250 hours on type we will be pleased to accept an application from you provided you meet all of the above criteria with the exception of the 1500 hours total time specification.

If you do not have a current type rating and hours on type we regret that we are not able to accept an application from you.

[Rene Pedersen]

They will for the time being not be taking any low-houred, non-typerated pilots on as they cost to much to train and the training department have been ordered to cut costs. So much for pilots not beeing affected of the uk cut-downs.

[rjay259]

Guys,

Seriously just cause it says type rating prefered dont mean you have to have one.
When i joined i had a tr but they still put me through one anyway.
Go for it even if they say not this time keep trying.
Give it a go.

259

[mungo_55]

Hmm, where does it say 'preferred' on the recruitment page on their website ? I can't see it. If it did say 'preferred' then it might be worth sending a cv off, but it seems pretty clear what they will and wont accept.

[StudentInDebt]

All this negativity - if Tfly have their application for available for download then get a copy, fill it in and send it off. If they send you back a rejection letter then you've lost nothing but an hour or so of your time. If they invite you to a selection then all you have to do is proove you aren't a tosser and you'll have a job.

[chief]

Thomsonfly

Every so often I keep in touch with HR, denise, etc etc and have already gone through the Assessment days with Thomsonsfly and have developed a good relationship with HR as I know an insider fairly well.

I too have 250 hours, although no type rating. I was recently told not to apply as I don't have (now) the necessary qualifications i.e. Type rating or sufficient hours.

I would usually tend to ignore the requirments they advertise and managed to get through on their assessment day, however on this occasion I was told that they are [U]only[U] recruiting for pilots with the stipulated qualifications.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. If you do get through to the next stage contrary to what I have said, then please do let me know.

This whole industry is very frustrating.

Good luck to all.

[rjay259]

Hey Mungo 55,

Oh well sorry got it wrong but from what i heard from some other guys who work in the company they will always want those who have loads of hours and experience and then those type rated.

Its up to you if you apply or not I dont really care. And its via an application anyway not by sending your cv.

But for those who will apply anyway goodluck and i hope you get in it is a very good company to work for and I love it.

259

[spoolup]

tfly hiring process

hi everyone.
i keep looking around for the process at tfly.
I have a few questions if you don't mind....
1. if you pass day 1 you continue to day 2. is day to the next day or some other day they choose?
2. is the interview a mix of hr and tech stuff? or just HR as before. also if there's tech is the tech stuff on the plane you last flew or any plane in your logbook?
3. psychologist interview? ink blotches? what does that cover?
4. i understand if you pass day 2 and you are offered the job you need to do a medical? is that a class one, or a company medical. how long does it take?
do we pay for it? what's in it (if I can do it here cheaper i'll take the papers there)
I am flying in from the US for this, I just need to make some plans for this before I head out.
Thanks

[Pilot Pete]

1. i understand there is a group excercise on day 1. what does that entail?

They assess your performance within a group environment. They are looking at your communication style and teamwork towards a set goal.

2. if you pass day 1 you continue to day 2.

Yes that is the process, but Day 2 doesn't necessarily follow at a set timescale after Day 1. It could be a week or so, or a few months later, depends on demand to fill course start dates. As they are only looking at a small number of pilots this year I suspect it would be sooner rather than a long wait though.

3. is the interview a mix of hr and tech stuff? also is the tech stuff on the plane you last flew or any plane in your logbook?

No. No tech stuff, HR driven questions that try to find out what makes you tick. Remember Tfly select the INDIVIDUAL and not the TR/ hours. You MUST fit the bill, the TR and hours/ experience are a bonus which they can ask for when they aren't looking for hundreds of pilots.

4. psychologist interview? ink blotches? what does that cover?

Again, questions about YOU and your life, things you have achieved, setbacks etc. No ink blots.

5. i understand if you pass day 2 and you are offered the job you need to do a medical?

Not true unless they have just introduced it. However, if you don't hold a JAR licence it would seem reasonable that any job offer would be made subject to you being able to get the JAR licence issued, one requirement being a JAR Class 1 Medical. If it is an initial issue of a JAR Licence I believe you would have to go to the UK CAA Medical Centre at the CAA Headquarters at LGW.

They will for the time being not be taking any low-houred, non-typerated pilots on as they cost to much to train

it is all supply and demand and there may be some truth in this statement, but the fact remains that over the last few years the 737 expansion has meant they have been recruiting in the hundreds. Now that has stopped they only require a handful of pilots, so they revert to being able to be more choosy. They can ask for type ratings and hours because they will get enough applicants, if they don't they can re-assess the situation and amend the requirements. S/Os training costs might be higher than direct entry type rated S/Os and F/Os, BUT if they come via a scheme like CTC the non-type rated low houred pilot works out SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper as they don't get paid other than allowances AND the training organisation take ALL the risk of failure. There is no pension, National Insurance, LoL cover etc etc. Historically there has always been a number of low houred pilots who fail at some stage during the initial type rating and that costs. The other advantage of type rated however is that they are productive much earlier. Whilst the market is in the employers favour it also makes sense to get experience levels up.

[Plums]

Thomsonfly Interview March 2007

I've been invited for the 1st round of selection at Thomsonfly, Luton.

Does anyone have any tips of what to expect and if there's anything i can do in particular to prepare?

[rjay259]

There can be plenty but if you check through the back records you will find a very large thread on what to expect and that will give you a very good idea of what to expect.

Good luck and I hope it goes well.

259

[On speed on profile]

BOND??

Can anyone with the new gen please clarify what the state of play is with regards to the bond. I can only find conflicting information.

Thanks,

OSOP

[rjay259]

The bond for myself was £10k and tha is for five years.

That was just the type rating tho. for guys doing the whole sponser thing its a lot, but the company is very good, one of the guys on my course failed at base training after several attempts. They said that he didnt have to pay the costs back and they got him some interviews with other companies. Now this may have been a one off case and they would probably not do it again so heed the warning.

But good luck

259

[Stjuk]

March 8 selection

Has anyone who attended the March 8 selection recieved an answer yet?
I havent...

[scameron77]

Thomsonfly 250 requirement

I was thinking of applying to Thomsonfly for a job as a SO on the 757. I attain a TR recently but the website asks for 250 hours on type minimum. PPJN.com says 250TT obviously it derives its information from that supplied by TUI but I'm in a quandary as it also says that applications are not accepted from those not successful in the past.

So if I was to write to them on the off chance that they don't get enough pilots who meet the criteria set its all good, but if they get enough applicants, because of me falling below the threshold then I'm blacklisted from applying in future.

Catch 22 stamped all over it. Any suggestions?

[PlaneHomerS]

Apply anyway and see what happens...

Most of the time the system discriminates you on your e-mail address, you can always change that and apply again...

[Northern Highflyer]

You can apply as often as you like if you haven't been called for assessment. However, if you get called for assessment and and are not successful, there is a two year ban on submitting an application to them, after which you are free to go for it again. I am not sure how strict they are with this two year period though.

[Astrocaryum vulgare]

"Unfortunately we are unable to take applications from previously unsuccessful candidates" - from the Thomsonfly website. Note "candidates", not "applicants".

Whilst it can be argued that the first stage of an selection process is submission of the application form, I think they're talking about those who have attended a selection day and failed.

I can't imagine T-Fly HR are so well organised to know exactly who has sent in application forms in the past.

As always, what an airline asks for doesn't necessarily tally what they'll accept.