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Old 19th Aug 2006, 10:37
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Hi,

Your mate is right. Hopefully you will be ok.

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Old 19th Aug 2006, 12:02
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Yeah all of us had an email stating they need to save money before the end of the tax year. I assumed the email was mainly referring to 'office based' roles and we wouldn't be affected. But we'll see i guess
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Old 19th Aug 2006, 18:07
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I wonder what that means for us Thomson fly cadets in Jerez with only 6 weeks of training left???
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Old 19th Aug 2006, 20:23
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Think they over recruited last year and some of us got binned before interview!!!

At least they not running the country
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Old 19th Aug 2006, 20:58
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I wonder if this is related to the recent security alerts...

If so, it should start to die down a bit. Give it a few months and it will all be forgotten about. Hopefully thomsonfly froze their recruitment due to the uncertainty of the security situation and how it would effect them. However, this doesnt help people like spamcandriver. Well have to just hope.

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Old 19th Aug 2006, 21:52
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I got the same problem with another airline in europe(not UK), froze everything for 3-4 months.this sucks!
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Old 20th Aug 2006, 01:50
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Originally Posted by Jinkster
Think they over recruited last year and some of us got binned before interview!!!
Don't know where you got that idea from. If we over recruited last year then we wouldn't have been recruiting at the rate we have been thus far this year.


I wonder if this is related to the recent security alerts...
That and many other factors, like firstly bookings being down considerably due to;

1. Fantastic weather for the first half of the summer here in the UK.
2. The World Cup. People didn't book holidays until England went out.
3. The security issue causing immense hassle for air travellers, hence many decided to not bother and go to the likes of Centre Parks instead.

This is a problem for all Inclusive Tour operators. TUI UK have decided that in order to try to still meet profit targets they need to try to cut costs, hence spending has been stopped and everything has to be authorised by the Finance Director.

If you haven't signed a contract then there is a strong chance that they will make you wait.

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Old 20th Aug 2006, 20:15
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Course 48 (Thomson fly approved course) got told this morning that they would be put in the holding pool but they wouldn't be needed in the near future...... and they are free to apply to other companies. As for the other two courses out here nothing has been said to them and it looks as if they are still going to send the course in november.

talking to the guys (& gal) on C48 there position with Thomson has been up in the air for the last couple of weeks.... so I think its more of an internal thing rather than a reaction to the terrorist thing.

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Old 21st Aug 2006, 10:03
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Spoke to HR they said all courses are going ahead! So I guess if youre like me and already signed a Contract a couple of months ago and got a course date youre course will still be going ahead!
Im so glad I dont have to go back to Ryanair and ask for my job back!
Even more now that the ever reliable source of sky news says the 737 is unsafe
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Old 21st Aug 2006, 18:10
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phew, that is good news, my start date is toward the end of sept, but the ink was dry a long time ago on the contract!!
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Old 22nd Aug 2006, 23:59
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Correct me if im wrong

Just a theory here,

No more pilots required at the moment as the summer season is over. Come Feb, industry will be getting ready again and getting guys t/r ed and wanting courses to finish.


Any one thinking the same or is it just me?

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Old 23rd Aug 2006, 10:12
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?????? I don't know what you are getting at. Please explain.
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Old 23rd Aug 2006, 10:48
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Taking it EZY
I heard that TFly have a new set of 737s on the way. Arrival dates are sketchy, between Dec and Mar but they are already a number of CREWS short so they're not surely going to wait until next year to worry about it? The'll be too busy again to train........
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Old 23rd Aug 2006, 11:02
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They have ordered 5 new 737s and getting rid of 4 aircraft, 2 737s and 2 767s I think. The extra seating capacity within the company is only going up by less than a 100. Cannot remember the exact figures but I am sure Pilot Pete may be able to help us on this point.

As for anyone who is in the hold pool and not happy with waiting, my friend went into the hold pool this time last year and was in there for 6 months. Its well worth the wait. I would gladly be in the Tfly holding pool for 12 months knowing how much a good company it is.

Would anyone in there swimming like to swap places
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Old 23rd Aug 2006, 14:22
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Thanks for that - I heard 8 new 737s but we still can't ignore the shortages in crew this summer. The holding pool isn't covering it. A friend of mine is just starting a TR on 737 and he was nowhere near the holding pool (honest guv!)

I think the future is bright!!
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Old 23rd Aug 2006, 21:01
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anyone know what type of 73's on the way and where they are going??
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Old 23rd Aug 2006, 22:58
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Hi all,

What I was getting at earlier was that there is no point in the company spending however much it is to get type ratings at the moment when they are approaching a time of low income when pax are less. Come spring, the industry will be getting ready for the busy summer season.

The're would be no point in shelling out 2ok+ and having pilots on the payroll that you dont have any flights to fly. Come spring when they will need more pilots, they will start employing and type rating.

I think..........err

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Old 24th Aug 2006, 01:22
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Guys, I now this can be VERY FRUSTRATING, but don't worry. All these freezes and holding pools have historically been very short lived.

The 737s on the way are 3 733s and 2 738s (or the other way around, can't remember).

Hang in there. Be patient. (Not easy I know)

The company is currently running for 1st place on the kneejerk reaction championships. (Very close race between Tfly and Airport security)


(PS , I heard a rumor today that the Jerez guys have been offered cabin crew positions temporarily. Is this true?)
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Old 24th Aug 2006, 08:10
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another rumor going around is that tui have been having cosy chats with Philip Meeson (jet2), and will soon be aquiring a large number of 73/75 rated pilots.

Discuss
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Old 24th Aug 2006, 08:22
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Good theory Drifted but it misses by some margin! The Winter Season demand for crew is probably as high. The long haul programme is sizeable and crew hungry, there is a load of recurrent training to get through and other training too (seen as unproductive by certain numpties as it doesn't have people actually flying jets) and then there is the Haj. Granted that essentially takes some airframes out of the system but it takes probably more than its fair share of crew as well.

Gonso is right: It won't be long before things move again. Every company does this, gets all excited and expands in a new direction, trips over its own d##k in the rush to do it all yesterday, takes a deep breath and then requires all emplyees to put in a triplicate request for every tea bag. The next phase is a surplus of tea bags and an outbreak of common sense.

We have a new MD who has to satisfy those who have put faith in him. He has put the brakes on expenditure for the reasons Pete outlined and all the mini managers are busy running around preparing tea bag proformae. Some of the directives of the last week or so are embarassing and would be funny if it wasn't screwing so many people around and not just pilots.

So, a periodic convulsion, yes it's not been a brilliant year but actually they are trying to protect the forecasted profit figure which is reasonably healthy. A late run of poor weather in the next few weeks would be enough to change sales and ease the panic so don't go selling the farm!

Spam Can & Co. See you on the 5th. I'll be the one standing at the front of the class. Welcome.
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