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Nigel:
That has been doing the rounds for a while as has a similar one re Ashtrays R Us. I believe it is more an airframe issue.
In recent years we have had a slack handful of guys from FCA/Air2K over the winter on a temp basis to prop up numbers over the Haj. It may be that.
That has been doing the rounds for a while as has a similar one re Ashtrays R Us. I believe it is more an airframe issue.
In recent years we have had a slack handful of guys from FCA/Air2K over the winter on a temp basis to prop up numbers over the Haj. It may be that.
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Where can I get Thomson fly application?
I have checked thomsonfly's website and could not get the link for recieving thier web applications (for flight crew).The only ones there was for cabin crew. I was wondering if anyone has applied and can post the link here or if its a postal address .
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???it's gone.
Probably being re-done as the pages overlapped when you printed it off, or they have had enough paper sent in, the Fire Officer has told them to take it off untill they clear the mound of forms.
Probably being re-done as the pages overlapped when you printed it off, or they have had enough paper sent in, the Fire Officer has told them to take it off untill they clear the mound of forms.
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I thought it was a bit rich that they expect so much from our cv's, cover letter etc yet their application form was absolutely woeful and clearly wasn't checked by anyone before being thrown onto the website.
I sent off the paper form this week - downloaded it a few weeks back and didn't get round to filling it out, or rather didn't get round to reformatting and respacing it so it printed out something fill-innable with room to write answers. Some of it still a mess after I'd finished with it, but hope good enough. Someone should tell Thomson about .pdf files....
More worryingly, there were two addresses on it, one at the top saying:
Please return completed application form to: Thomsonfly, HR Department - Pilot Recruitment, Wigmore House, Wigmore Place, Wigmore Lane, Luton, Beds
and at the bottom it said:
RETURN THIS FORM PROMPTLY TO: Thomsonfly, HR Department – Pilot Recruitment, Britannia House, London Luton Airport, Luton, Bedfordshire, LU2 9ND.
Which one's correct???
I sent to the latter because it had a postcode. Also found more references to the that address when I searched online for other miscellaneous Thomson job vacancies and things.
Expecting it to get binned anyway to be honest, seeing as the link on the website has been removed.
Troy.
More worryingly, there were two addresses on it, one at the top saying:
Please return completed application form to: Thomsonfly, HR Department - Pilot Recruitment, Wigmore House, Wigmore Place, Wigmore Lane, Luton, Beds
and at the bottom it said:
RETURN THIS FORM PROMPTLY TO: Thomsonfly, HR Department – Pilot Recruitment, Britannia House, London Luton Airport, Luton, Bedfordshire, LU2 9ND.
Which one's correct???
I sent to the latter because it had a postcode. Also found more references to the that address when I searched online for other miscellaneous Thomson job vacancies and things.
Expecting it to get binned anyway to be honest, seeing as the link on the website has been removed.
Troy.
Oh, and for God's sake, if you send an application form to this or any other airline in an A4 type envelope, don't just stick a regular 1st class stamp on it.
Excess postage to pay is a sure fire way to get it binned before the postman's even left the premises.
Excess postage to pay is a sure fire way to get it binned before the postman's even left the premises.
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The correct address is
Thomsonfly, HR Department - Pilot Recruitment, Wigmore House, Wigmore Place, Wigmore Lane, Luton, Beds
I believe all recruitment is on hold at the moment
The correct address is
Thomsonfly, HR Department - Pilot Recruitment, Wigmore House, Wigmore Place, Wigmore Lane, Luton, Beds
I believe all recruitment is on hold at the moment
So I picked the wrong one. Isn't that just b
typical......
If recruitment's on hold, probably makes little difference. Might even help having my form kicking round the wrong office for a bit. By the time it gets to the right place, they might have started recruiting again. Yeah, right.....
Troy.
typical......If recruitment's on hold, probably makes little difference. Might even help having my form kicking round the wrong office for a bit. By the time it gets to the right place, they might have started recruiting again. Yeah, right.....
Troy.
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I sent mine to Wigmore house (which is definately the correct one) they sit on a pile on a lady's (I forget her name) desk. It's definately worth giving her a call in a few days to ask if she has it. A silly thing but she may fish it out and then just throw it on the top of the pile. At very least you'll know it got there and your name will be in her head.
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I really can't be bothered to fill out that size of form, knowing that there are at least 50 a week landing on top of it. The same with the CTC form, although I hear they can't get enough to top up their pool/small puddle. I am going instructing till the Spring for a rest from all of this applying. Do PM me if you do get an interview. Be nice to know.
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jmc/mytravel overexpansion all over again?
From todays' TIMES newspaper:
" TUI, the German travel and shipping group behind Thomson Holidays, is facing growing pressure, following a surprise profit warning, to split itself in two or replace it's top management, including Chief Executive Michael Frenzel."
Let's hope that with the current downturn in summer bookings and other "world gone mad" terrorism and security threats that TUI haven't done their bo11ocks.
This is definitely the toughest Summer in years. Just wait for how bad Winter bookings will be........
" TUI, the German travel and shipping group behind Thomson Holidays, is facing growing pressure, following a surprise profit warning, to split itself in two or replace it's top management, including Chief Executive Michael Frenzel."
Let's hope that with the current downturn in summer bookings and other "world gone mad" terrorism and security threats that TUI haven't done their bo11ocks.
This is definitely the toughest Summer in years. Just wait for how bad Winter bookings will be........
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Positive thinking..
Sure the terrorist threat had an impact on the summer but the main problem (as usual) was the bloody weather. Unless we get a freak hammering of snow, a large volcano eruption creating something more than a mole hill for people to ski on or a ridiculosly hot December, surely winter will be a normal one?
Maybe those who forgot to go on holiday this summer will come to their senses.....
Maybe those who forgot to go on holiday this summer will come to their senses.....
Got the standard e-mail from Thomsonfly saying no recruitment at the moment, but will keep app on file for 6 months. At least it found its way to the right person.
CTC form is worth filling out though.
CTC form is worth filling out though.
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I Work For Thomson. All Recruitment Is Frozen Indefinitiely. Sorry To Be The Bearer Of Bad News But It Aint Pretty In Head Office. Redundancies A Plenty In All Areas. A Back Office Review Is In Place That Is Cutting Existing Staff In Every Area.
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Poor old wingbar. You need some counselling for that attitude, please don't jump of Beachy Head, call the Samaritans about your 'hard luck story'.
Think I am being harsh? Here are a few nuggets from the man himself.
Funny thing is, I think the recruiters are doing a reasonable job, because with that attitude I am glad they are keeping pilots like you out of the right seat.
Now for the rest of you, it's called business. In the ideal world it would all be rosy and employers would make millions and the staff would all be happy and new joiners would get their debts paid off on day one. Unfortunately, market forces get in the way of the rosy plan and force companies to make decisions that just about everyone but them thinks is too harsh/ unfair/ badly timed/ unnecessary/ whatever........
Fact is the market has slipped and this has been the worst summer for years for the package holiday companies. This from the Times online:http://business.timesonline.co.uk/ar...0-2323383.html
TUI 'set for boardroom cull'
By Rhys Blakely
Shares in TUI, the German group that operates Thomson Holidays in the UK, rose today on reports the tourism and shipping group is set to dismiss two management board members after profits plunged in the second quarter.
Eric Debry, who heads the company’s Western European tourism business, is said to be under particular pressure after poor performances in the division – particularly in France in the wake of last year’s riots, which dramatically hit air travel between France and its former colonies.
Sebastian Ebel, whose responsibilities include TUI’s online business, was also named by Handelsblatt, the German daily, as potential target for a boardroom cull designed to restore investors’ faith.
TUI refused to comment on the reports when contacted by Times Online.
Earlier this month, TUI reported a sharp fall in net second-quarter profits, down to €38.8 million from €149.0 a year earlier. Earnings before interest, tax and appreciation fell to €89 million from €204 million.
In morning deals in Germany, shares in TUI were €0.36 or 2.45 per cent higher at €15.06, while the DAX 30 index was up 30.77 points or 0.53 per cent at 5,825.60.
Today’s Handelsblatt story follows similar suggestions in the trade press in recent weeks.
However, analysts questioned whether TUI, the largest tourism and services group in the world, employing 80,000 people, was targeting the right executives to trigger a turnaround.
Equinet, the broker, said in a note: "Dr Michael Frenzel [chief executive] and Mr Rainer Feuerhake [chief finance officer] are accountable for the problems of TUI in Tourism and Shipping [and] consequently, these two should take responsibility, in our view," it said.
"Mr Sebastian Ebel seems to be [being made] a scapegoat."
According to reports, TUI will decide on the matter next week, where it will also discuss the merger of its Hapagfly and HLX airlines.
And this from a few days earlier:
First Choice shrugs off worries overshadowing holiday shares
By Nick Hasell
THIS week’s collapse of Tapestry Holidays and Travel World International, the independent holiday groups, has made for nervous trading in MyTravel and First Choice Holidays, the FTSE 250 tour operators.
According to Travel Weekly magazine, airport security alerts “could be the final nail in the coffin for the worst summer package holiday trading conditions in 30 years”, with more than one million trips left unsold. Further jitters are likely to be created by the revelation of an internal memo from the chief executive of Thomas Cook UK shortly before last week’s foiling of an alleged terrorist plot. Manny Fontenla-Novoa described the market as terrible and said that the company’s performance for this summer “still hangs in the balance”, adding: “We are still way below where we need to be.”
Experts reckon that a combination of the World Cup, hot weather at home and now security alerts has left the big four — TUI, MyTravel, Thomas Cook and First Choice — with 900,000 unsold summer holidays. Increased fuel costs have added to the woes. First Choice, which is not due to give a trading update until late October, shrugged off the fears yesterday, rising 7¾p to 216¼p as a block of two million shares changed hands at 211¼p. MyTravel held steady at 205p, with the FTSE 250 up 26.4 to 9,513.0.
So the fact is that the market is not as good as it was before the summer started and decisions have had to be made, one of which is TUI recruitment stopping. So I think it puts wingbar's erudite
observation in the place where it should be; an uneducated, simplistic, pathetic opinion born out of resentment for an industry which he obviously never researched fully before he signed his life savings (and more) away to.
PP
Think I am being harsh? Here are a few nuggets from the man himself.
1) Presently got the whole f***** lot, cpl/ir/mcc/fi
2) Now doing the instructor bit,
3) Now well in excess of 600 tt
4) No airline job in sight,
5) Feel eternally trapped as an FI and under paid entirely
6) I am now on the edge of bankruptcy
7) I have no money for a TR....NOR SHOULD I HAVE TO PAY FOR ONE after spending for the whole lot mentioned above...
8) The one company I was recruited for keeps telling lies....
8) Should I just give in and do something else with my time....
9) I may aswell paint my bum blue and walk around the streets, it would give me a better paid and more rewarding job!
2) Now doing the instructor bit,
3) Now well in excess of 600 tt
4) No airline job in sight,
5) Feel eternally trapped as an FI and under paid entirely
6) I am now on the edge of bankruptcy
7) I have no money for a TR....NOR SHOULD I HAVE TO PAY FOR ONE after spending for the whole lot mentioned above...
8) The one company I was recruited for keeps telling lies....
8) Should I just give in and do something else with my time....
9) I may aswell paint my bum blue and walk around the streets, it would give me a better paid and more rewarding job!
Tell BALPA they can stick it up their arse
Be thick as 2 short planks, fat and hopeless
That fat bastards a liar as well that runs the place...
Don't bother work hard and become a doctor
A set of liars, DD the biggest culprit, don't believe a word they say ....
Still tossers that want more money though, lets say, for fat peoples TR's???
Don't become a pilot....its really bad................very very bad
Now for the rest of you, it's called business. In the ideal world it would all be rosy and employers would make millions and the staff would all be happy and new joiners would get their debts paid off on day one. Unfortunately, market forces get in the way of the rosy plan and force companies to make decisions that just about everyone but them thinks is too harsh/ unfair/ badly timed/ unnecessary/ whatever........
Fact is the market has slipped and this has been the worst summer for years for the package holiday companies. This from the Times online:http://business.timesonline.co.uk/ar...0-2323383.html
TUI 'set for boardroom cull'
By Rhys Blakely
Shares in TUI, the German group that operates Thomson Holidays in the UK, rose today on reports the tourism and shipping group is set to dismiss two management board members after profits plunged in the second quarter.
Eric Debry, who heads the company’s Western European tourism business, is said to be under particular pressure after poor performances in the division – particularly in France in the wake of last year’s riots, which dramatically hit air travel between France and its former colonies.
Sebastian Ebel, whose responsibilities include TUI’s online business, was also named by Handelsblatt, the German daily, as potential target for a boardroom cull designed to restore investors’ faith.
TUI refused to comment on the reports when contacted by Times Online.
Earlier this month, TUI reported a sharp fall in net second-quarter profits, down to €38.8 million from €149.0 a year earlier. Earnings before interest, tax and appreciation fell to €89 million from €204 million.
In morning deals in Germany, shares in TUI were €0.36 or 2.45 per cent higher at €15.06, while the DAX 30 index was up 30.77 points or 0.53 per cent at 5,825.60.
Today’s Handelsblatt story follows similar suggestions in the trade press in recent weeks.
However, analysts questioned whether TUI, the largest tourism and services group in the world, employing 80,000 people, was targeting the right executives to trigger a turnaround.
Equinet, the broker, said in a note: "Dr Michael Frenzel [chief executive] and Mr Rainer Feuerhake [chief finance officer] are accountable for the problems of TUI in Tourism and Shipping [and] consequently, these two should take responsibility, in our view," it said.
"Mr Sebastian Ebel seems to be [being made] a scapegoat."
According to reports, TUI will decide on the matter next week, where it will also discuss the merger of its Hapagfly and HLX airlines.
And this from a few days earlier:
First Choice shrugs off worries overshadowing holiday shares
By Nick Hasell
THIS week’s collapse of Tapestry Holidays and Travel World International, the independent holiday groups, has made for nervous trading in MyTravel and First Choice Holidays, the FTSE 250 tour operators.
According to Travel Weekly magazine, airport security alerts “could be the final nail in the coffin for the worst summer package holiday trading conditions in 30 years”, with more than one million trips left unsold. Further jitters are likely to be created by the revelation of an internal memo from the chief executive of Thomas Cook UK shortly before last week’s foiling of an alleged terrorist plot. Manny Fontenla-Novoa described the market as terrible and said that the company’s performance for this summer “still hangs in the balance”, adding: “We are still way below where we need to be.”
Experts reckon that a combination of the World Cup, hot weather at home and now security alerts has left the big four — TUI, MyTravel, Thomas Cook and First Choice — with 900,000 unsold summer holidays. Increased fuel costs have added to the woes. First Choice, which is not due to give a trading update until late October, shrugged off the fears yesterday, rising 7¾p to 216¼p as a block of two million shares changed hands at 211¼p. MyTravel held steady at 205p, with the FTSE 250 up 26.4 to 9,513.0.
So the fact is that the market is not as good as it was before the summer started and decisions have had to be made, one of which is TUI recruitment stopping. So I think it puts wingbar's erudite
Another set of time wasters
PP
Last edited by Pilot Pete; 27th Aug 2006 at 13:59.
