Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Wannabes Forums > Interviews, jobs & sponsorship
Reload this Page >

Ryanair Interview and Sim Assessment (merged)

Interviews, jobs & sponsorship The forum where interviews, job offers and selection criteria can be discussed and exchanged.

Ryanair Interview and Sim Assessment (merged)

Old 1st Dec 2017, 23:22
  #7441 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Planet earth
Posts: 29
Wow. I actually had to re-activate my profile to get this off my chest after reading the "If you only have negative things to say, keep it to yourself" posts!

I did "my time" in Ryanair as well, and boy are you in for a surprise if you think the almost 30K is enough to complete all of it and get the career started.

So many things can happen! I have current friends in the company who have had to wait much longer that the 30 days, and a few even more than 4 months. And this was before the mass exodus a couple of months ago!

If you REALLY want to consider RYR as your future employer, please listen to what the guys are telling you! You might be based somewhere far from home, sitting is a hotel on endless standbys waiting for your LT to start. Come summer you will see hotel/airb&b prices soar as the tourist season starts, and before you know it you will be maxed out on your credit cards or mom and dads money!

Back when I was in the company, I only had to wait around a month from TR end to LT start, and I STILL had to pay much more in expenses than I would have ever believed! and I was living in an awful apartment in one of Europes least expensive cities, and all I was allowing myself to do all day was to eat eggs, oatmeal and whatever cheap basic food I could find. This is simply just the reality of it all. The pay during LT is also extremely low, and I will be surprised if you make it out of the first 1-1,5 years in the company without juuust breaking even while saving up for a slow winter, paying off debt and creditcards.

If you still think RYR is for you, then don´t let me or anyone else stop you - but please listen to what we tell you!

There are other options out there at the moment! At least give it a good try, before you decide on this company!

I know you may have met loads of RYR guys who seem happy, and I will not deny that there are loads out there who consider themselves lucky for the time being. But be prepared to loose a lot of money in the beginning, and have your affairs in order with the taxman while you are in there! I went through a full audit when I left, and in my current company, I know so many ex-Ryr guys who have had to pay back loads of tax back once they returned to their home country!

You are truly on your own with this company. (Ryr contract or not) If you can accept it - Fine. But once you have seen "the other side" in a proper company you will join us "ex-ryr" boys and girls in our efforts to warn future colleges.

Ps. I totally agree with the previous post about the "Swedish house mafia". This is NOT the average or even below average life of a RYR pilot.

Good luck
SSDK is offline  
Old 2nd Dec 2017, 10:46
  #7442 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: nowhere
Posts: 24
then why did you join ryanair in the first place ??? all of you "ex-ryr", you joined ryanair aswell and i am 100% sure there have also been people who told you not do it, so what?

i paid my atpl all by myself and i know whats living at the limits trust me. i lived the last 3 years in a basement.

this tread is to help people get trough the interview and sim and not shit-talking the company. do you really think we are that stupid so we dont understand their practices? before i applied i talked to like 4 ryanair pilots to get to know how daily life was.

the situation is still dire as it was last year, do you know how hard it is to get a job as a cadet? every airline is asking for a valid TR and 500+ hours. we just want a job and if it means to have a hard start then so be it.
sunji is offline  
Old 2nd Dec 2017, 12:29
  #7443 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: nowhere
Posts: 24
No I applied to easyJet, Aer Lingus, DHL etc aswell not only Ryanair. I will take the first offer I get.

Look I appreciate the advices but if I get the offer I wont turn it down even when its a bad deal.
sunji is offline  
Old 2nd Dec 2017, 12:38
  #7444 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Planet earth
Posts: 29
Originally Posted by sunji View Post
then why did you join ryanair in the first place ??? all of you "ex-ryr", you joined ryanair aswell and i am 100% sure there have also been people who told you not do it, so what?

i paid my atpl all by myself and i know whats living at the limits trust me. i lived the last 3 years in a basement.

this tread is to help people get trough the interview and sim and not shit-talking the company. do you really think we are that stupid so we dont understand their practices? before i applied i talked to like 4 ryanair pilots to get to know how daily life was.

the situation is still dire as it was last year, do you know how hard it is to get a job as a cadet? every airline is asking for a valid TR and 500+ hours. we just want a job and if it means to have a hard start then so be it.
I thought you might ask.

I was lucky to land a job as an FI after I finished training just before the financial crisis. I got me my first 1000hrs before I was laid off when the crisis hit. fast forward 200 applications and I finally decided to try Ryanair. A decision I have always felt was in PURE desperation! I worked out, but at a cost I think.

Being without a job after the crisis is in no way comparable to todays market. In my company, half of the new FO's got a job while still doing their CPL. Our company simply went to the flight schools to recruit early. 10 years ago, I would have simply not believed that would ever be remotely possible. It has gone from being: "wow, I just landed my first job flying tourists around the flag pole twice a week" to "wow, I just landed my first job - and it's on a 737/airbus". Massive difference!

I think it is incredibly ignorant not to take both the good and bad advice from colleagues in the community. As I wrote before, I DO know RYR pilots who are happy. I would say its about 50%. mostly because they are based close to home. With my current lot, I would say it's closer to 90. And I'm still in low cost!

Starting a career with RYR today is much more a choice than it was before in my opinion. It's way more expensive than it was back then. The salary is lower from what they paid me, and you WILL have to wait for your LT to start or there will be far between your training days.

If you join, I sincerely hope things have changed by the time you are ready to start your training, and I hope I am massively mistaken. But I'm not holding my breath.....
SSDK is offline  
Old 3rd Dec 2017, 08:57
  #7445 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: The EU
Posts: 208
First thing's first oldkarim, it is not, and never will be your "right" to fly a 737. It's this attitude that is contributing to the declining conditions in this industry, people like yourself using a professional career as their hobby.

I think others have more or less covered the points. The current Ryanair pilots are trying to change things at the company, and people like yourself coming in, willing to accept the appalling conditions as a 'good opportunity' for yourself is not helping anybody.

Stay well clear of BS such as the “Swedish flight mafia” their propaganda revolves around what they managed to acquire by means of playing the “look at me in my bikini card.” That is not the life that awaits you, unless you’re a reasonably attractive female who has no quarrels about buying followers to get your completely unbalanced happy-go-lucky account up and running on IG.
Don't forget "Matt the pilot" of IG fame, generally regarded as one of the worst pilots in the company (also failed most of his ATPL written and practical exams, so I'm told).
Vokes55 is offline  
Old 3rd Dec 2017, 12:31
  #7446 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: nowhere
Posts: 24
maybe its time to stop you imply we are fine with those conditions. we have no other choice than to accept them or should i say at the interview yeah i want double the salary and a fixed contract? lmao get real.. can we maybe stop this now? we got it already 10 pages before, ryanair sucks, we suck aswell because we want to join them and ruin the industry.
sunji is offline  
Old 3rd Dec 2017, 13:02
  #7447 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: MARS
Posts: 3
Does anyone know if Ryan still taking in people for the assessments now in December or is reduced due to Christmas holidays etc. ?
Kai99 is offline  
Old 3rd Dec 2017, 20:20
  #7448 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 553
Beware all, huge huge delays after your type rating. Lads that started their tr in may I am seeing with safety pilot still to receive a pay cheque. If you pass your tr this week, your looking at march for starting line training. You can't even get a job else where as they give you short notice to go back in the sims each week to keep current, which of course, can be ema, dub, STN, ams,at your own costs imagine.
UAV689 is offline  
Old 3rd Dec 2017, 20:55
  #7449 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Planet earth
Posts: 29
Originally Posted by sunji View Post
maybe its time to stop you imply we are fine with those conditions. we have no other choice than to accept them or should i say at the interview yeah i want double the salary and a fixed contract? lmao get real.. can we maybe stop this now? we got it already 10 pages before, ryanair sucks, we suck aswell because we want to join them and ruin the industry.
Sunji, If we drop the kindergarten rhetoric for a moment, I hope you can see that there are actually people here who have walked the walk who are just trying to give you a heads up. By all means, If you want to join Ryanair fine, but as fellow colleagues it is our duty to try and provide the best possible information available.

Who knows. If the Ryr guys actually get a CLA together, It just might be a fantastic workplace in the future. All we are saying is; Watch out for yourselves, plan for a though period in your life and make sure you get a realistic picture of what you can expect. I think most people are optimists when they are presented with a job offering with the company. But just having finished flight school it can be very hard to feel the financial burden that you are about to take on. 4-6 or more months of only paying out of pocket can be a mental challenge and I have seen so many people go from being young enthusiastic pilots, to bitter 1-2 year FO's who are already saying things like: "I'm not sure I am actually going to be doing this in 30 years". It does not have to be that way. Not at all!

Anyways, you get the idea. Best of luck in the future!
SSDK is offline  
Old 5th Dec 2017, 08:15
  #7450 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Up side down
Posts: 64
I do not fly for...I don't want to fly for and I don't fly with Ryanair even as a pax seen the incredible amounts of immature wannabees spending their parents money populating their cockpits . I think is time to implement the FAA like 1500 hours before any commercial flying rule...before is too late.
STEXUP is offline  
Old 7th Dec 2017, 19:25
  #7451 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: the Netherlands
Posts: 2
I will as soon as I can Gkss! Still waiting for my account to get access to PM since I only registered a few hours ago.. and I can't seem to find CAE 1729 on FB. Perhaps you could put the link here?
FL1337 is offline  
Old 7th Dec 2017, 19:32
  #7452 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Asia
Posts: 285
the market is so good, and you still apply for FR ?
good luck...
Greenlights is offline  
Old 8th Dec 2017, 16:22
  #7453 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: go west
Posts: 0
Originally Posted by Greenlights View Post
the market is so good, and you still apply for FR ?
good luck...
would you be so kind and point me to airlines in Europe that will actually take on 200 hour cadets? Aerlingus just did their recruitment drive, 4000 applicants on 100 positions, many many of those 4000 guys with 1000+ hours on type.. paints a picture, doesn't it? Easyjet wont look at you if you're modular, Wizz is interested in Easterneuropeans for their bases, many other carriers looking at local language speakers only. If English is your only language or you are coming from a country that doesn't have a strong local airline, you are pretty much . I'd say, if you can afford Ryanair, go for it..
Martin_123 is offline  
Old 8th Dec 2017, 18:30
  #7454 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Dublin
Posts: 40
EasyJet are actually taking modular guys now for the first time I can remember - a sign of the positive changes.
Also know of 200 hr guys that have got jobs at Norwegian, cityjet, cityflyer, jet2, Flybe and dhl

Last edited by The Foss; 4th Jun 2018 at 16:56.
The Foss is offline  
Old 9th Dec 2017, 09:50
  #7455 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: London
Posts: 8
Anyone failed the first interview and reapplied for the second time please?

Did you pass the second interview?
Did you let them know that you have already failed the 1st interview?
lisa95 is offline  
Old 9th Dec 2017, 12:54
  #7456 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Spain
Posts: 3
Hi lisa95,

I think you can reapply 6 months later after not passing the 1st time.
When did you failed the interview? Do not desperate, just keep on studying, flying if possible and try other airlines,...you know its not the end of the world.

Kind regards
MisterAviator is offline  
Old 9th Dec 2017, 16:46
  #7457 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: N/A
Posts: 279
Originally Posted by Martin_123 View Post
would you be so kind and point me to airlines in Europe that will actually take on 200 hour cadets? Aerlingus just did their recruitment drive, 4000 applicants on 100 positions, many many of those 4000 guys with 1000+ hours on type.. paints a picture, doesn't it? Easyjet wont look at you if you're modular, Wizz is interested in Easterneuropeans for their bases, many other carriers looking at local language speakers only. If English is your only language or you are coming from a country that doesn't have a strong local airline, you are pretty much . I'd say, if you can afford Ryanair, go for it..
Wizz focusing on eastern euros? The airline is currently being flooded by French and Italians and not to mention, lots of Brits now!

If you are a 200 hour cadet waiting for the call up, you are doing it wrong, GO to their open day, that they put effort into organising on a regular basis.
You show them you are interested with a bit more than a "submit" key on the web and they'll take you seriously enough to FLY you out to their training centre at their expense. Or you could pay the Irish group for the privilege of your attendance.

I worked my ugly little bum off to get in this industry, years and years of nothing from the big boys until 5 different invitations in the space of a month, times have changed and you have a choice to get out there and do something about it or you can sit back, relax and watch the others grab the available positions.
schweizer2 is offline  
Old 9th Dec 2017, 21:05
  #7458 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: EU
Posts: 127
You need at least 300 hour for Wizz Air. Anything that allows to log hours is good. Then absolutely attend their open days, they need pilots.
Veltro is offline  
Old 10th Dec 2017, 13:59
  #7459 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Europe
Posts: 68
Originally Posted by sunji View Post
maybe its time to stop you imply we are fine with those conditions. we have no other choice than to accept them or should i say at the interview yeah i want double the salary and a fixed contract? lmao get real.. can we maybe stop this now? we got it already 10 pages before, ryanair sucks, we suck aswell because we want to join them and ruin the industry.
Yes you do have a choice, all you have to say is no and walk away. There are literally lots of jobs out there. Why do you think Ryanair are having crew issues? I don't know how long you've been in aviation for but if you look back you'll notice that the employment prospect this year was very positive.

Believe it or not many people actually do turn jobs down because the T&C are bad. A while back while I was a flight instructor I went to the Globe Air interview. At the interview stage they told us that the salary was almost €30K per year. I passed the interview and when they sent me the contract the salary was €1850 per month gross and the rest was made up of different bonuses at the discretion of the company, plus I had to pay €24k for the type rating and stay there for minimum 3 years. I told them no thanks and continued to work as a flight instructor until few months later when I got a great job, well paid and most important not having to pay for anything and treated like a human being. A couple of years ago I turned down another job that is not even worth mentioning.

I also applied for Ryanair when I finished my training, back then they were literally the only choice, shortly after the financial crises. For some reason unknown to me they never called me but I continued to update my application for years to see if they are ever going to call me. This summer around July they sent me an email asking me if I am still interested in working for them, I replied yes. Then a couple of weeks after that they sent me the phone email and then called me, on the phone I made my demands regarding the type of contract, base and salary. They said is not possible and didn't invite me to the interview. It was of great satisfaction to me doing that.
Skipname is offline  
Old 10th Dec 2017, 14:16
  #7460 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Italy
Age: 40
Posts: 27
I have been invited for assessment on the 11th of January. Anyone else in Dublin the same day?

Cheers.
teobull is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.