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Old 21st Mar 2017, 14:20
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Originally Posted by SpanishRocket
Hi Marcssr Donīt worry about it, the same happend to me I did the telephone interview a Friday, the next Monday they called me I passed so keep calm and good luck mate!
Hi!! Yeah, after searching through this forum for a while, I found some posts talking about it, my bad!

I see you're also from Spain, I'm from Mallorca myself, best of luck!!
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 19:14
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Still looking for other lucky in FR1704! PM me please, I'd like to get in touch beforehand
Iīm in FR1704! How do I PM? Iīm new here
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 20:59
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If you click on my profile name, you should be able to send me an email!
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 23:29
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Anyone know anything about the Ryanair graduate cadet program? The one where cadets begin their time by working in Ryanair ops for one year in dublin?
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 12:06
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Anyone attending the assesment on 27th?
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 12:52
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I'm starting my type rating in June, CAE1707. Anyone else starting in the same course?
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 13:47
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Ok so I got an assessment for the 3rd of April. But I'm feeling a little bit suspicious about something, the CAE website at the first page, down at the bottom states:

"Successful candidates may be offered an opportunity to fly for a contract pilot agency that supplies a pool of pilots that operate on Ryanair aircraft."

So even if you pass the Ryanair's assessment and finish the CAE training program you may still not get a job? Can that happen or is it just in case the training goes horribly?
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 14:55
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FR1706 EMA 1st May FB Group created !
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 15:03
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Iīm in FR1704! How do I PM? Iīm new here
Hey man, I'm on FR1704 aswell. Starting on the 24th of April at EMA.

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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 18:13
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Info from the 22nd of March 2017

Originally Posted by Ramboskyhawk
I just can not find any reliable source of information about the number of aircrafts Ryanair has!!!
Even on their website, they say more than 300... and only talk about the option for 100 "737MAX200"
http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/news/170321-ryanair-takes-delivery-of-450th-boeing-737-800-aircraft/?market=en
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 18:47
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APC1701

Anyone in APC1701 24-04-2017? Is there a facebook group already?

Thanks!
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 10:19
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Just six days after the assessment day I received a positive email from McGinley. Is that how people normally find out?

Anyway having read this thread quite a lot (and found it helpful) I thought I should post something about my experience. To be honest I do not have much to add to what others have already said about the sim, interview questions etc, so will focus on the particular issues around the situation I found myself in - that of going to the assessment about three years after originally applying. I suspect I'm not alone in that regard and might be able to offer some hope to those who may have (like I had) nearly given up.

I originally applied in early 2014 but never heard anything. Clearly this was not an uncommon experience and in the past have heard of 5 years+ or simply never at all. In October last year though I heard that CAE had a new system so decided to apply again. Six months went by and too be honest I had pretty much forgotten about it - I was working in interesting aviation related (but not flying) job and hearing stories of people being called very soon after applying. I figured that even if they had looked at my application, they would have thought that my MCC was too long ago. I was still flying in my spare time, with current IR etc, but I thought perhaps they would not want someone who was so long out of the CPL/IR training system who might have gained bad habits.

Clearly not however, since I received the CAE email warning of an impending call just over two weeks ago. It came the next day. They asked me quite a lot about my exams, hours and when I'd last flown - thankfully it was only about a month ago and my IR had nearly a year's validity. I was at work at the time but managed to answer all of their questions without my licence or logbook in front of me. The guy on phone then said he needed to check a few things with the airline. It was obviously a very quick check because he called back in about ten minutes to tell me I could come to assessment.

The call sent me into a bit of flat spin - I hadn't flown the 737 sim for more than three years, I only had about half the paper work they claimed to need and the assessment day was in a week's time.

On top of that I needed to move my work schedule around to allow me to go. I did contemplate whether it was really worth even trying, considering that I'd likely be up against people straight out of Oxford Aviation etc. However I decided to give it my best shot.

From the outset I felt the best strategy was to make as much effort in the time available to prepare - come the assessment they would know it had been a while since I'd done my MCC, and even if it did not go so well, I figured that if I showed I'd done my best to prepare they would look on that favourably. Ryanair's primary concern is that you will pass the type rating course in the allotted time, so showing a willingness to prepare is important.

Paperwork

The amount of paperwork they seemed to need did concern me. In the assessment email they made a big thing out of the 'flight school report' with a list of the things it needed to contain. I did not remember ever getting a report from my flight school (or if I had it was long lost) and since I did my ATPLs, CPL/IR and MCC at different places I decided to get in touch with all of them and see what I could get. In some cases it had been nearly four years since I'd been there so I figured they may not have my records. So I called and emailed setting out what I thought I needed - I gave details of the hours I had flown with them, sent scans of my logbook and skill test reports and asked them if they could write something up for me which included hours, training standard and confirmation that I had passed my skills tests and ATPL exams (with attempt number/average pass mark). They were all very helpful and responded exactly as requested.

I have no idea to what extent Ryanair look at the report(s) (they flicked through mine during the interview but did not appear to read it much). My main advice to people would be to get this together when you apply rather than waiting for the assessment invitation. Because I was not really expecting them to get in touch I had taken the view that I would just sort one if they did. I was caught off guard by how little notice they are giving at the moment for assessment days (in my case 6 days, two which were the weekend) and worrying about getting the report together was something I could have done without.

Similarly I was not aware they needed exam certificates from school and academic and professional references. The former were buried at my parents' house and for the latter I needed to find an old teacher/have a conversation with my manager at work about. Again getting these things together before hand would have saved me a lot of stress.

Sim preparation

I had very limited scope to take time off work other than for the assessment day itself, so I knew any Sim practice would have to be in the evening or at the weekend. Thankfully I did manage to book some at short notice. A lot of people do it in Dublin the day before, but that was not an option for me due to work. I had to drive nearly three hours to get to the Sim practice, but it was worth it since otherwise I would have felt totally lost getting into the Ryanair sim for the first time.

Some things that I think are important to remember about the assessment, particularly if your memory of the MCC has faded:

- In theory if you haven't flown the 737 sim before that should not be a problem (on the day they try to pair people up who did their MCC on it with those who did not). However there is a bit of knack to flying it involving gentle control inputs and accurate pitch. The unwary can end up wresting with the aircraft somewhat - sapping vital capacity to interact with your sim partner and generally manage the flight. The AI and trim are your friend in that regard, so practicing in advance will help.

- There is also a 'startle factor' associated with going into a cockpit for the first time that may disorientate you - so again practice beforehand will help this. Even basic things like where the nav frequencies are tuned. You can of course ask the assessor to point these out, but things flow better if you know already.

- Revise the basic concepts of the PF and PM roles, including who does what in the cockpit. Look through your MCC notes but perhaps leave out the complex bits (for example complex takeoff emergency briefings) that your sim partner may not know - sticking to basics will avoid losing your partner's understanding, particularly if their English is not perfect. Remember DODAR and NITS for the 'non-normal' event.

- Know the contents of the assessment brief, especially the PF/PM calls and actions for takeoff, approach and go-around. Getting these right from the start sets a good tone for the flight and ongoing communication with your partner.

Interview

As others have said before, common themes include the 737, general jet aircraft theory and your previous MEP type.

- I was unsure as to whether they would ask me much about the 737 and was more expecting to be asked about the DA42 (which I did my CPL and IR on). However they did ask about the 737, so know basic facts about it like seats, service ceiling, cruising speed, MMO etc. Knowing this shows preparation.

- If it's been a while since your training be prepared to talk about the flying you have done since. In my case this was just in my spare time, but I tried to emphasise that I'd taken a disciplined approach to it. They obviously do not want people who may have picked up bad PPL habits.

- I had been nearly three years in a non-flying (but aviation related) job, as well as a few previous ones. They asked me quite a lot about them and what they involved. I tried as hard as possible to work personal qualities into my answer - where I showed hard work, a positive attitude or learnt quickly. Also the ability to talk in a positive way about your work I think comes across well - I figured they are looking for people who are that way inclined, not just good pilots.

Overall

To those who have not heard from CAE for a while, do not give up hope - make sure you have put in an application on the current system and keep it up to date. Ryanair do look at people who finished their training a while ago. Gather as much of the paperwork you need in advance, particularly references, flight school report and academic certificates. You never know when they might call.

If you are lucky and get the call, make the effort to prepare for the assessment, they will be looking to see how prepared you are. They know you may have been given short notice/it may have been a while since training, but if you do your best to get back up to speed in advance, that will go down well.

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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 14:51
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question to anyone he/she had passed successfully the assesment:

Did they let you decide when to start your type rating course?

I guess they asked you to pay before the commence of the course, but did they give you any deadlines on this?

If somebody is not available immediatelly for the type rating are they flexible with this??

thanks!
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 15:14
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I passed in February, and they offered me two starting dates (late April or mid May). You're allowed to pick whatever is most convenient for you, but you have to start a TR course within 6 months of passing your assessment.

Hope it helps
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 16:20
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Link?? :-D
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 17:43
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I asked if I could start a bit later than May (the first one available) and was given 26th June. It really depends on how things fall but they do try and accommodate requests.
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/181565449017816/
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Old 24th Mar 2017, 00:04
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Anyone attending the assesment on 27th?
Yes, I will attend the assesment on 27th March. Anyone else coming?
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Old 24th Mar 2017, 15:18
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Originally Posted by Golf Charlie 737
Hi guys!
It's coming to the stage of my training where I'll have my MEIR in the coming weeks and will have to jump from the nest into the big bad world and start looking for a job.
Ryanair will definitely be a port of call for me and my question is does anybody know how they react to ATPL fails?
I have one second attempt on flight planning. Failed the first time by 1%
Other than that all first time passes with a 90% average.
Is there anyone that's been in my shoes and had ATPL fails and still got the job?
You'll be fine with just one fail. They might bring it up in the interview but you can turn it into a positive talking about how it was a subject you found challenging and how you walked on it to make sure you passed the next time
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hello, anyone in CAE 1708 in Amsterdam starting introduction course the 26 of June?
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