Ryanair Interview and Sim Assessment (merged)
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Under JAR the -200 and -300~900 are considered to be different types. A -200 rated pilot needs to do a complete type rating course to fly the -800, although there might be a reduction in sim time.
HTH
Gerard
Under JAR the -200 and -300~900 are considered to be different types. A -200 rated pilot needs to do a complete type rating course to fly the -800, although there might be a reduction in sim time.
HTH
Gerard
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tp232,
Under JAR the -200 and -300~900 are considered to be different types. A -200 rated pilot needs to do a complete type rating course to fly the -800, although their might be a reduction in sim time.
HTH
I only just found this out a couple of days ago. How much reduction in sim time is available for those who have done it.
Under JAR the -200 and -300~900 are considered to be different types. A -200 rated pilot needs to do a complete type rating course to fly the -800, although their might be a reduction in sim time.
HTH
I only just found this out a couple of days ago. How much reduction in sim time is available for those who have done it.
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my opinion
!!!!Funny theres a Guy who does the Ryanair Selection and he can run on the other side a business to prepare candidates for Interviews.
So ,i pass if i buy myself 2 Evenings with MR .H and then pay again to get evaluated by him and 2 others ..............
Shame on all of you who play with Dreams of others !!!!
You will pay one day ....maybe aboard an Aircraft with Pilots who "Bought" their Jobs ..not earned !!!
My Opinion ....no comment required ....
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So Nuclear Weapon you did not make it into Ryanair. Well I guess from reading your post I can see that you may but be able to hack life at Europe's most successful low fares airline.
Oh and your friend - a cadet - did not get his first choice of base straight out of training. What did he really expect. Ryanair is an airline and sends new cadets where they have vacancies. It is not a branch of Thomas Cook! Get real.
Oh and your friend - a cadet - did not get his first choice of base straight out of training. What did he really expect. Ryanair is an airline and sends new cadets where they have vacancies. It is not a branch of Thomas Cook! Get real.
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If I can indulge for a moment and ask about the assessment....
To the guys that have been through or know about the sim assessment:
Some colleagues have been suggesting that I get some time in the sim before hand to be familiar and up to speed whilst others have suggested I don't want to look too good initially as they are looking for your ability to learn and improve (as in that if you get a second attempt at something the assessors are looking for you to take their coaching on board and put it to good use).
Is the Ryanair sim assessment a 'one chance' deal where they are looking for people that can turn up and fly the sim very nicely or do they prefer people not necessarily pre-trained, but can keep their cool and when given hints and tips can show the ability to learn and improve?
Basically I'm wondering whether getting some extra sim time in can work against someone.
Ta!
Some colleagues have been suggesting that I get some time in the sim before hand to be familiar and up to speed whilst others have suggested I don't want to look too good initially as they are looking for your ability to learn and improve (as in that if you get a second attempt at something the assessors are looking for you to take their coaching on board and put it to good use).
Is the Ryanair sim assessment a 'one chance' deal where they are looking for people that can turn up and fly the sim very nicely or do they prefer people not necessarily pre-trained, but can keep their cool and when given hints and tips can show the ability to learn and improve?
Basically I'm wondering whether getting some extra sim time in can work against someone.
Ta!
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Sim practice
Welsh Rambler,
I have also heard these differing points of view regarding sim rides, but the mere fact that you are considering it as an option probably means (and no offence meant) that you are either a little rusty with instrument flying or unfamiliar with type. To me, both cases are strong enough to warrant some practice beforehand.
I have the assessment day on 21st March and have already booked the 737-200 sim at Real Simulation in Yorkshire for the prior day. It's a fair wedge to lay out (approx. £600 for 2 hours plus briefings etc.) on top of travel, accomodation and the £250 for Mr O' Leary's beer fund
, but compared with what I've already spent on training, it's small fry. I would hate not to get through selection due to being unprepared for the sim ride. At the end of the day you have to give yourself the best possible chance to get through and preparation in terms of personal/technical interview, sim ride and overall personal presentation is never wasted.
The bit about assessors wanting to see an improvement over the duration etc. Well hopefully, if you've prepared you'll be good on your first attempt and even better on your second, or at least as good. Ideally, you should be able to learn or observe something from every 'flight' you conduct. They can't & don't expect miracles from a low hours/not current on 737 pilot, but are looking for a reasonable standard of flying and good CRM skills etc.
Best of luck whatever you decide to do.
WTSS
I have also heard these differing points of view regarding sim rides, but the mere fact that you are considering it as an option probably means (and no offence meant) that you are either a little rusty with instrument flying or unfamiliar with type. To me, both cases are strong enough to warrant some practice beforehand.
I have the assessment day on 21st March and have already booked the 737-200 sim at Real Simulation in Yorkshire for the prior day. It's a fair wedge to lay out (approx. £600 for 2 hours plus briefings etc.) on top of travel, accomodation and the £250 for Mr O' Leary's beer fund
, but compared with what I've already spent on training, it's small fry. I would hate not to get through selection due to being unprepared for the sim ride. At the end of the day you have to give yourself the best possible chance to get through and preparation in terms of personal/technical interview, sim ride and overall personal presentation is never wasted.The bit about assessors wanting to see an improvement over the duration etc. Well hopefully, if you've prepared you'll be good on your first attempt and even better on your second, or at least as good. Ideally, you should be able to learn or observe something from every 'flight' you conduct. They can't & don't expect miracles from a low hours/not current on 737 pilot, but are looking for a reasonable standard of flying and good CRM skills etc.
Best of luck whatever you decide to do.
WTSS
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I would definitely get some time in a 737-200 sim. Think it might be a bit too much of a learning curve to learn to handle a jet and the high speeds involved in a 45 min assessment.
When asked at the interview what I'd done to prepare I told them I did some time in a 737-200 FFS to prepare and they didnt seem to mind. You prepare as much as you can for flights, so why not for interview, was the view I took.
I used Realsimulation, 1 hour did the trick, I used MS Flight Sim to brush up on my scan.
All the best of luck.
PS. I know 4 blokes who are flying for Ryanair in the Cadet scheme and all are loving it.
I would definitely get some time in a 737-200 sim. Think it might be a bit too much of a learning curve to learn to handle a jet and the high speeds involved in a 45 min assessment.
When asked at the interview what I'd done to prepare I told them I did some time in a 737-200 FFS to prepare and they didnt seem to mind. You prepare as much as you can for flights, so why not for interview, was the view I took.
I used Realsimulation, 1 hour did the trick, I used MS Flight Sim to brush up on my scan.
All the best of luck.
PS. I know 4 blokes who are flying for Ryanair in the Cadet scheme and all are loving it.
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The 'Vortex Thing' debate has been moved to this thread, which I've temporarily borrowed from Terms and Endearments. It encapsulates the issue we were discussing quite well, and VT might learn a thing or two about how the industry feels about those who would work for less than the going rate.
Please post any further opinions on the issue in that thread, and leave this one for the discussion purely of Ryanair recruiting.
Scroggs
Please post any further opinions on the issue in that thread, and leave this one for the discussion purely of Ryanair recruiting.
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738 Sim?????
I am taking the assessment in a -800, or so they say.
Does anybody know where I can do some sim time on this type to prepare for the assessment?
Thank you very much
Diogo
Does anybody know where I can do some sim time on this type to prepare for the assessment?
Thank you very much
Diogo
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Why not just use the PMDG 737NG sim for FS2004? Buy the CH Products flight yoke to make it more realistic It can be configured to the exact Ryanair NG setup. I used it for some sim work for another airline assesment and flying the PMDG sim first was very helpful, to say the least. Best part about it (unlike the other options) is that it's cheap, practice as much as you like and can be resold when you've finished.
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A few advices
Hi all,
For SIM practice I've been using lots of hours in a Beech King Air 200 sim for speeding up my crosscheck. On FS I used Wilco's 737 Classic series.
Best SIM tip from the day (I you have no jet experience):
Don't get tempted to lower the nose on the horizon. 3-5 degrees pitch up at level flight (at the speeds and the TOM at the assessment) will be somewhere right.
Remember from theory that it does take som time from throttle movement to airspeed change (either way) and do remember that the engines are underslung so that a thrust increase will give you a pitch up moment. Getting "behind" on speed requires large thrust input.
TRIM and keep clear of the big wheels
Best technical interview tip:
Don't ever sell your ATPL theory books and keep reading them.
Br.
For SIM practice I've been using lots of hours in a Beech King Air 200 sim for speeding up my crosscheck. On FS I used Wilco's 737 Classic series.
Best SIM tip from the day (I you have no jet experience):
Don't get tempted to lower the nose on the horizon. 3-5 degrees pitch up at level flight (at the speeds and the TOM at the assessment) will be somewhere right.
Remember from theory that it does take som time from throttle movement to airspeed change (either way) and do remember that the engines are underslung so that a thrust increase will give you a pitch up moment. Getting "behind" on speed requires large thrust input.
TRIM and keep clear of the big wheels
Best technical interview tip:
Don't ever sell your ATPL theory books and keep reading them.
Br.
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EMA assessment and interview
This is just a quick update on the Ryanair EMA assessment and interview process for low hour cadet pilots, as I had mine last week.
I applied through the SAA website 3 weeks ago and was contacted v.quickly to arrange an assessment date.
The assessment itself consisted of a sim check flying the CPT3B departure from RW26 at Luton. Once the SID was complete we did steep turns at 30 and 45 degrees angle of bank.
Tracked back to the LUT beacon (no emergency to deal with), a quick hold then the NDB/DME procedure to land RW26. Role as PNF was simply to monitor the PF and alert him/her of any deviations.
Interview was fairly relaxed talking about career history and around six or seven ATPL theory questions on met and air law.
Heard within 30 minutes of the interview that I'd passed. All in all a fairly painless process.
Good luck to anyone else applying.
I applied through the SAA website 3 weeks ago and was contacted v.quickly to arrange an assessment date.
The assessment itself consisted of a sim check flying the CPT3B departure from RW26 at Luton. Once the SID was complete we did steep turns at 30 and 45 degrees angle of bank.
Tracked back to the LUT beacon (no emergency to deal with), a quick hold then the NDB/DME procedure to land RW26. Role as PNF was simply to monitor the PF and alert him/her of any deviations.
Interview was fairly relaxed talking about career history and around six or seven ATPL theory questions on met and air law.
Heard within 30 minutes of the interview that I'd passed. All in all a fairly painless process.
Good luck to anyone else applying.
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met and air law???what about previously flown aircraft???that's what they're supposed to ask right????!!!at least that's what was stated on the e-mail they sent me...I think that's very inappropriate of them to say the least..
Were the questions very difficult?
Were the questions very difficult?