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Does any one know if Kingfisher would take Non-Resident Indians for the Second Office Position???
I'm a CFI in the USA with about 1000hrs Total Time 50 Multi......looking for something that first Airline job anywhere in the world....please give me some advise!!!
I'm a CFI in the USA with about 1000hrs Total Time 50 Multi......looking for something that first Airline job anywhere in the world....please give me some advise!!!
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Indian passport is a must, DGCA India law FOs must be of Indian citizen ...green card holders are ok to apply as far as passport is Indian.
There is no SO position you are recuited as an FO.
Fly 100 sectors as observer do the radio & paper work (lots of it) pop quiz by the Capt on each flt. Then LOFT and released as FO in total 2-3 mths from type rating.
If you have a 1000hrs you will have no problems. Visit the DGCA web site to ensure you meet all the requirments.
100PIC
300nm x country
25hrs multi
nite check on multi by FAA examiner..
Log book stamped and letter of check ride from your FAA examiner with his rubber stamp.
Indian passport is a must, DGCA India law FOs must be of Indian citizen ...green card holders are ok to apply as far as passport is Indian.
There is no SO position you are recuited as an FO.
Fly 100 sectors as observer do the radio & paper work (lots of it) pop quiz by the Capt on each flt. Then LOFT and released as FO in total 2-3 mths from type rating.
If you have a 1000hrs you will have no problems. Visit the DGCA web site to ensure you meet all the requirments.
100PIC
300nm x country
25hrs multi
nite check on multi by FAA examiner..
Log book stamped and letter of check ride from your FAA examiner with his rubber stamp.
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Can't hurt to apply. Especially if you have an Indian passport and can give an address in downtown Chennai or Mumbai for correspondence.
Give it a go and see what happens, you also may want to tell them you have all the requirements needed, then if you get invited for interview fly home 3 weeks early and book yourself onto a course to attain the COP/RTR.
All I would suggest is to post your experiences on here so other wannabes who meet the criteria can gain from it.
Also, this thread was started to adivse fellow wannabes about the opportunity with Kingfisher, subsequently it has been determined that as a non-Indian this and other Indian-subcontinent jobs are closed to felow EU/US nationals. OK, so I'll get the red marker pen out and scrub out India from my shiny mercator projection (can you guess I've recently sat Gen Nav).
What I was suggesting in my last post is that if the particular visa/immigration policy of a soverign state is to be questioned, debated, herranged or complimented then maybe a new thread should have been started in another forum, rather than adding to a thread in the first job/opportunity forum. I just feel this one has been 7500ed and should have been left (after establishing it was for Indian nationals only) that any further posts should have been advising on the recruitment process, experiences of those attending, etc. in the same way that the CTC, BA CityExpress threads progress.
Give it a go and see what happens, you also may want to tell them you have all the requirements needed, then if you get invited for interview fly home 3 weeks early and book yourself onto a course to attain the COP/RTR.
All I would suggest is to post your experiences on here so other wannabes who meet the criteria can gain from it.
Also, this thread was started to adivse fellow wannabes about the opportunity with Kingfisher, subsequently it has been determined that as a non-Indian this and other Indian-subcontinent jobs are closed to felow EU/US nationals. OK, so I'll get the red marker pen out and scrub out India from my shiny mercator projection (can you guess I've recently sat Gen Nav).
What I was suggesting in my last post is that if the particular visa/immigration policy of a soverign state is to be questioned, debated, herranged or complimented then maybe a new thread should have been started in another forum, rather than adding to a thread in the first job/opportunity forum. I just feel this one has been 7500ed and should have been left (after establishing it was for Indian nationals only) that any further posts should have been advising on the recruitment process, experiences of those attending, etc. in the same way that the CTC, BA CityExpress threads progress.
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Still want to discuss FO in Kingfisher and FO jobs in India???
scameron77,
Good luck on that elusive first job. Here's just a thought: Just imagine how much confusion could have been avoided had the Kingfisher FO job posts contained a simple statement like "Indian labor and immigration law prohibits employment of any first officers unless they are Indian citizens; no exceptions are allowed."
When a job post goes on the internet, the entire world reads it. If the post doesn't say what the writer intended, only confusion can result as demonstrated by this thread.
There are lots of young people like you who are hungry and in the hunt so it's natural they would be applying everywhere they saw a possibility. Since no one can be expected to be walking around with an intimate knowledge of Indian labor/immigration law, Kingfisher could've help you out a lot with one simple sentence.
Phileas Fogg: I visited my sister-in-law outside Hull last month...and I have an ATPL. Can you give me a job????
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Expat F/O’s in India:
I’ve heard from one of the many horses mouths that the Indian DGCA along with the Ministry of Home Affairs is evaluating lifting the block for foreign expat F/O’s so much so, that they have stipulated what the forecasted minimum requirements will be and the projected allowance date sometime in May or June 2006.
I don’t mean to throw a spanner into the works here with the previous responses but thought I’d let you know what I’ve heard, regardless of the countries possible ability to sustain its own needs.
I’ve heard from one of the many horses mouths that the Indian DGCA along with the Ministry of Home Affairs is evaluating lifting the block for foreign expat F/O’s so much so, that they have stipulated what the forecasted minimum requirements will be and the projected allowance date sometime in May or June 2006.
I don’t mean to throw a spanner into the works here with the previous responses but thought I’d let you know what I’ve heard, regardless of the countries possible ability to sustain its own needs.
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yyzdub, very true. Jet & Kingfihser have been lobbying for it for a long timem as 9W have had cancell more than 20 flts due to the shortage. IT is unable to expand.
Dont know how far they will get.
Dont know how far they will get.
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FO Position
Thanks LeftWing
I'm not a Indian Citizen, I am a Kenyan Citizen...but my family is Indian. Seems like they will not take me as an FO. I wonder if I can get an Indian Citizenship through me family??? do u know if that can happen???
I think I meet the requirments I have:
1000TT
900 PIC
50 Multi Time
170hrs x-country
600 Instruction given
I'm not a Indian Citizen, I am a Kenyan Citizen...but my family is Indian. Seems like they will not take me as an FO. I wonder if I can get an Indian Citizenship through me family??? do u know if that can happen???
I think I meet the requirments I have:
1000TT
900 PIC
50 Multi Time
170hrs x-country
600 Instruction given
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Try and look thru these pages, you might find an answer
http://www.mha.nic.in/oci/oci-main.htm also refer
http://www.immigrationportal.com/sho...d.php?t=145132
hope that helps
Try and look thru these pages, you might find an answer
http://www.mha.nic.in/oci/oci-main.htm also refer
http://www.immigrationportal.com/sho...d.php?t=145132
hope that helps
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In the recently concluded April session of DGCA exams:
Draw your own conclusions, gentlemen. (Should be easy around here
)
Cheers
R
p.s.: All rumours regarding hush-hush plans to change DGCA regulations have to be tempred by a real knowledge of the speed of Indian bureaucracy.
pps: The 'Kaw Committee recommendations' (google it) contain nothing about 'Foreign F/Os'. If one were to assume the committees recommendations are evaluation-execution priority for the legislators/bureaucrats, then... (draw your own conlusions once agian.)
ppps: this is one of the most fun threads I've read in a while!!
- Total number of applicants was 2800
- About two thirds of those appplicants took CPL papers
- about a third took ATPL papers
- negligible number of applicants for PPL, Helicopter etc.
Draw your own conclusions, gentlemen. (Should be easy around here
)Cheers
R
p.s.: All rumours regarding hush-hush plans to change DGCA regulations have to be tempred by a real knowledge of the speed of Indian bureaucracy.
pps: The 'Kaw Committee recommendations' (google it) contain nothing about 'Foreign F/Os'. If one were to assume the committees recommendations are evaluation-execution priority for the legislators/bureaucrats, then... (draw your own conlusions once agian.)
ppps: this is one of the most fun threads I've read in a while!!
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There was a lot of talk of Jet & Kingfihser putting pressure for expat FOs, well here goes.
For now DGCA India as allowed type rated FOs on turbo props on the same contract as expat capts.....Guess this will be applicable to jet rated FOs very soon.
so go ahead and flood into the ripe FO market.
BTW would like place a large order for humble pie...
For now DGCA India as allowed type rated FOs on turbo props on the same contract as expat capts.....Guess this will be applicable to jet rated FOs very soon.
so go ahead and flood into the ripe FO market.BTW would like place a large order for humble pie...
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Career as Pilot in India
HI,
I am 17 now and finished 12 years of schooling. I was planning to do CPL training both theory and practical in Basair aviation college, Bankstown airport,sydney,australia. After that i would like to work with some airlines,as opportunities are in india i would like to work in india.
Can you tell me whether my decision to study in australia than in India is good.
Also what will it take to work for bigger airlines like Emirates,singapore airlines. Is it possible for me as i am indian citizen.
Longing for all yours reply.
Regards
Kanak Chandramohan
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I am 17 now and finished 12 years of schooling. I was planning to do CPL training both theory and practical in Basair aviation college, Bankstown airport,sydney,australia. After that i would like to work with some airlines,as opportunities are in india i would like to work in india.
Can you tell me whether my decision to study in australia than in India is good.
Also what will it take to work for bigger airlines like Emirates,singapore airlines. Is it possible for me as i am indian citizen.
Longing for all yours reply.
Regards
Kanak Chandramohan
ph:00919446922825
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www.air-titan.com talk to these guys in Cochin very good set up.
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Air Titan
Left Wing,
Do you please know whether licences obtained at Air Titan would be issued under the DGCA, the FAA, Jaa or some other examining authority? I have looked at their website and there is no information about this and no 'Contact Us' button.
I notice also there is no mention of the ATPL or ATP.
Whatever happened to the Indira Ghandi Flying School? Or was that a military outfit?
Broomstick.
Do you please know whether licences obtained at Air Titan would be issued under the DGCA, the FAA, Jaa or some other examining authority? I have looked at their website and there is no information about this and no 'Contact Us' button.
I notice also there is no mention of the ATPL or ATP.
Whatever happened to the Indira Ghandi Flying School? Or was that a military outfit?
Broomstick.
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Amazing time to start your pilot career especially with the indian passport ! maybe you should give a couple of operaters in india a call and find out exactly what they want as alot of them are taking very low time pilots.
good luck !
dxb
good luck !
dxb
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Seek and ye shall find...
Broomstick,
the air-titan 'contact us' is right there on the home page!
[email protected]; look up the phone numbers under 'contact us' if you need them.
the Indira Gandhi Rashtriya Udan Academy can be found here: http://www.igrua.gov.in/
All Indian flight schools will train you towards a DGCA licence.
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iamanaussiemavrick,
Do your training in Oz - it'll be much much faster, and (dare I say it out loud) much better quality. Training at Igrua may be an exception quality-wise, but even there a CPL course will take upwards of two years.
Cheers
R
the air-titan 'contact us' is right there on the home page!
[email protected]; look up the phone numbers under 'contact us' if you need them.
the Indira Gandhi Rashtriya Udan Academy can be found here: http://www.igrua.gov.in/
All Indian flight schools will train you towards a DGCA licence.
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iamanaussiemavrick,
Do your training in Oz - it'll be much much faster, and (dare I say it out loud) much better quality. Training at Igrua may be an exception quality-wise, but even there a CPL course will take upwards of two years.
Cheers
R
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Indira Gandhi Rashtriya Udan Academy is close to death, no flt inst as all of them were grabbed by the airlines. Govt owned hence will not pay top dollar for expat inst.
All flt schools in India will only issue a DGCA CPL and ICAO approved ATPL which is accepted world wide...
iamanaussiemavrick, get your DGCA medicals & papers cleared first all the best !
All flt schools in India will only issue a DGCA CPL and ICAO approved ATPL which is accepted world wide...
iamanaussiemavrick, get your DGCA medicals & papers cleared first all the best !
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Conversion Requirements for foreign licence holder
I apologise if i am writing this in the wrong section.... but please i need some advice and info...
I hold an Australian CPL/ME as well as a Malaysian CPL/IR/ME/FROZEN ATPL for Aeroplanes. In addition, i have a bachelor degree in Aviation Studies from Australia. I am an Indian national.
These are my flight times:
Total Flight Time 328:30
Total Night Flight 17:40
Pilot in Command / P1 U/S 082:37
Night Flying PIC/ P1 U/S 06:06
Twin Time (M/E) 049:18
Total IFR Time 30:03
IFR Time PIC/ P1 U/S 04:05
Currently endorsed on Twins (Partenavia (14hrs) and Piper Seneca (35hrs)
I would like to convert my licences to India for issuance of indian CPL/IR/ME/FROZEN ATPL so that i can apply to airlines in India.
Can anyone who has done similar things or anyone who has done a conversion help out on:
What are the things i have to do to convert.... in order? I mean what should i do first now? After that what?
I can come down immediately once i find out what i need to do to gain those and the full costing as well as duration.
Also any ground course for the written exams which are exam oriented?
What abt accomodation?
Kindly let me know as soon as possible. Thanking you very much in advance.
Regards,
I hold an Australian CPL/ME as well as a Malaysian CPL/IR/ME/FROZEN ATPL for Aeroplanes. In addition, i have a bachelor degree in Aviation Studies from Australia. I am an Indian national.
These are my flight times:
Total Flight Time 328:30
Total Night Flight 17:40
Pilot in Command / P1 U/S 082:37
Night Flying PIC/ P1 U/S 06:06
Twin Time (M/E) 049:18
Total IFR Time 30:03
IFR Time PIC/ P1 U/S 04:05
Currently endorsed on Twins (Partenavia (14hrs) and Piper Seneca (35hrs)
I would like to convert my licences to India for issuance of indian CPL/IR/ME/FROZEN ATPL so that i can apply to airlines in India.
Can anyone who has done similar things or anyone who has done a conversion help out on:
What are the things i have to do to convert.... in order? I mean what should i do first now? After that what?
I can come down immediately once i find out what i need to do to gain those and the full costing as well as duration.
Also any ground course for the written exams which are exam oriented?
What abt accomodation?
Kindly let me know as soon as possible. Thanking you very much in advance.
Regards,