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Old 18th Jan 2006, 12:33
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Type Rating - Ryanair?

On the Ryanair website, in order to get on the approved type rating course as a cadet you need a number of pre-requisites. One of them is the following:

'Minimum of 100 hours as Pic'

What does this mean please?
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Old 18th Jan 2006, 12:38
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This will mean you require 100hrs Pilot In Command (PIC) or as it will probably be listed in your logbook, P1. You will need to check whether this can include any P1s (P1 under supervision) time you may have in your logbook.

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Old 18th Jan 2006, 17:37
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You also have to sell your soul for £250

Rather you than me ...
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Looking at the thread in rumours and news it seems they have no crews,surely reason to ask for a free type rating
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Ryanair still self sponsored type rating?

Sorry again - looking for the answer everywhere,

thanks guys
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As far as I know its self sponsored, its payed through a bond, im sure there is info on the careers section of their website.
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737 Type Rating? Ryan Air?

I plan on finishing off my JAA frozen ATPL with a MCC from Orland Flight Training early next year. I was thinking that Ryan Air looks like a great way to start in this giant aviation business. I know the pay sucks for the first bit and you work like a dog but i was expecting this anyways. It'll be like a 3rd year in university. Just looking for some advise who had there first job with a company like Ryan Air or Easy Jet after paying for your own type rating. Do companies actually take a lot of low houred pilots like this or is it very rare. Any advise will be awsome, thanks a lot
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Old 20th Jun 2006, 22:37
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Nether Ryanair or easyjet will offer you a job if you have paid for a type rating. If you want to get into easyjet you must go through CTC and if you want to go to Ryanair you must do a type rating through one of thier training providers ether SAA or CAE. There have been lots of threads about both of these schemes so do a search and im sure you will find some good info.
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Not strictly correct in what you are saying. Two scenarios I can think of would get you in to Ryanair:

- 737NG rating and 500 hours on type
- 737NG rating and min hours BUT have a contact who can get you in for interview (eg: captain)

Essentially what you say is correct in that they would prefer to train you to their standards through the approved TRTO's but as always there will be exceptions to the rule.
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Old 21st Jun 2006, 09:00
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- 737NG rating and 500 hours on type
500 hours of experience is hardly something you get when you pay for a type rating! Infact, you can apply to FR with 100 hours of line flying but that is something totally different to paying for an initial rating.

- 737NG rating and min hours BUT have a contact who can get you in for interview (eg: captain)
Ryanair have told me directly that the have no plans to take anyone with less than 100 hours until at least 2007 unless it’s through their approved scheme. If you have a contact at Ryanair, the most you can expect is a bypass of the £50 stg fee.

There maybe VERY rare exceptions (like being MO'L's cousin or something) but it’s definitely not worth the gamble of an independent TR. If you want to work for Ryanair or easyJet go through their schemes.
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I applied for SSTR over two months ago. I got an application number but nothing since. It seems you need a contact to even get called for the SSTR interview.

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500 hours of experience is hardly something you get when you pay for a type rating! Infact, you can apply to FR with 100 hours of line flying but that is something totally different to paying for an initial rating.
Depends where you go now doesn't it. Doesn't Eaglejet have a JAA type rating and line flying programme? I thought Bond or Stapleford had a 500 hour programme? Seem to remember there were some outfits in Eastern Europe that you could do line flying for 500 hours as well on both Boeing and Airbus?

There maybe VERY rare exceptions (like being MO'L's cousin or something) but it’s definitely not worth the gamble of an independent TR. If you want to work for Ryanair or easyJet go through their schemes.
Agree entirely. If your number 1 ambition is to work for Ryanair then forget the type rating and forget about filling in the online application form as well. Instead develop your network. The examples above were exceptions to the rule and nothing more but highlight how there is never a black and white answer to this game. A mate of mine is a Captain in Ryanair and has gotten 3 of his mates into the airline in the past year. All had 250 hours or thereabouts. Goes to show that its who you know in this industry but some people just fail to grasp that for some reason that I have never understood.
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Depends where you go now doesn't it. Doesn't Eaglejet have a JAA type rating and line flying programme? I thought Bond or Stapleford had a 500 hour programme? Seem to remember there were some outfits in Eastern Europe that you could do line flying for 500 hours as well on both Boeing and Airbus?
They do have such hour building options but you have to pay extra for them and for the cost of a rating and hour building it’s a lot cheaper just to go through the Ryanair scheme in the first place, get a job and earn some money.

If your number 1 ambition is to work for Ryanair then forget the type rating
With all due respect...that’s what I said in the first place.

and forget about filling in the online application form as well. Instead develop your network. The examples above were exceptions to the rule and nothing more but highlight how there is never a black and white answer to this game. A mate of mine is a Captain in Ryanair and has gotten 3 of his mates into the airline in the past year. All had 250 hours or thereabouts.
Yeah but your 3 mates still had to pay for a Type Rating off Ryanair didn’t they. I've got mates who have got in to FR through "the front" (on-line application) "round the side" (through a MCC/JO course's from companies like Parc) and through the "back door" (Senior Captain Recommendation) All of them have had to pay for the rating from ether SAA or CAE.

As for easyJet, there seems to be only one way in for low timers...CTC!

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My advice, start with CTC. If you have no luck there, try Ryanair. Don’t treat this as a 3rd year at Uni. You've spent alot of time, effort and money obtaining that licence. You’re aiming to become a professional pilot so behave like one. Good Luck
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Old 21st Jun 2006, 11:45
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Ryanairs minimum requirements for 737 rated people is 100hrs+ on type.
It says it on their website, and myself and plenty of other joined with this level of experience having done type ratings elsewhere
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I can't be bothered labouring the point with you but if you reread the first sentence of your first post then you will see why I was correcting what you were saying.
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Okay there seems to be a misunderstanding here. What I've gather from the first post is CanadianTrev is considering a TR but with no time on type (TRNT) and then applying to easyJet/Ryanair. Is that not how you guys have read it?

With that in mind then....

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At this present moment in time Ryanair will NOT accept TRNT pilots with less then 100+ hrs until 2007 at the earliest. If you had more than 100 hours than you didn’t fall into this category.

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Reread my second sentence

If you want to get into easyJet you must go through CTC and if you want to go to Ryanair you must do a type rating through one of their training providers ether SAA or CAE.
So what I’m trying to say is...the only way for low timers into Ryanair/easyJet without ether 100+(FR) or 500+(eJ) 737/A320series hours is through CTC/SAA or CAE. Do we agree now?
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Hey guy, I don't think I made it clear enough in the start of the Thread. I don't have a TR yet. I am still in the midst of finishing my licence. I was thinking of maybe taking my MCC in stolkholm and then trying for the Ryan 737TR program there. Anyone know the chances of getting into that program, the steps after the TR is completed, job conditions , pay, do you sign a contract with Ryan Air before the TR, etc etc. ANY info about that would be awsome.
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easyjet

not entirely true about easyjet only taking guys from CTC , last month easyjet took 17 people straight from oxford including modular pilots.
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The chances seem to be pretty good at the moment. I belive you sign a training agreement and then pay upfront for your rating. You then go through your TR with no salary until you complete your base check. You are then paid approx £800 per month until you complete your line training at which point you start on a proper wage. like I said, this scheme has been covered many times so i would recommend doing a search to get the exact details of the T+C's.

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Yeah I heard they took some Oxford cadets. Didnt know it was that many! I think they will be going to CTC for their TR though. easyJet are short of pilots but they seem to be unwilling to take TRNT pilots.

The advice im trying to convey here is self funding an independent TR is probably not the best way to get into a job for low timers at the moment, Better to go through an airlines approved scheme as their seems to be plenty of places available.
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Easy and Ryanair both need hundreds of pilots next year. Something has got to give. Keep current, especially IFR, and keep applying. I did my MCC last month at PARC, I have given my C.V. to them to pass on. I really don't know what to do for a next move. I have applied to everyone I can think of, with one rejection today from Thomas Cook (not recruiting). I will think about a TR next month....but where. For that sort of cash, I want a job offer before I start...in writing. Astraus want too much for a TR that has a bad reputation. Storm are not recruiting for the Wizz scheme and that leaves PARC. No one from these TRTO's will stick their neck out and demand a bit of commitment back from the sodding airlines. We are the customer after all.
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