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Hi mates!
Next 29th of May I'll be going to Turkey to perform some screening tests for the B737 TR program. Pegasus told me I would have to do an interview, and then a motor test and sim test. Could somebody tell me what should I expect in the sim assessment (B738)? Finally, what do they ask you to do at the motor test?
Thanks in advance!
DC-8
Next 29th of May I'll be going to Turkey to perform some screening tests for the B737 TR program. Pegasus told me I would have to do an interview, and then a motor test and sim test. Could somebody tell me what should I expect in the sim assessment (B738)? Finally, what do they ask you to do at the motor test?
Thanks in advance!
DC-8
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To DC-8
Best of luck with your screening in Turkey.
From people inside PGS, I have heard that they will need a lot of pilots for the summer months.
Unfortunately you will be too late to catch that wave, but I don't think that PGS is the worst place to start your career.
I was in AYT until 31st October 2006.
Indeed it was frustrating from time to time, but I think the training and the flying we got was ok.
You will fly a lot of VOR, NDB and visual app's in difficult terrain etc. Great fun and a lot of challenge to your flying skills.
Some got kicked out during the linetraining, but to my knowledge these guys did not perform well. Thats what I heard from training captains and safety pilots.
These guys should never have been on that course. A screening would have prevented that, and it looks like they found out in Istanbul as well.
I feel sorry for those who spend a lot of money and now got another 30000 EUR to pay the bank, but some sense of reality would help before handing in the check...
For me it turned out to be the right decision and I know that it has been for many others.
Give it a shot and hopefully you will get some Boeing hours and a good start on your career as an airline pilot.
I can't give you any hints for the tests since we did'nt have it when I was there.
Have fun in sunturk/speedhorse/speedturk or whatever they call them selves...
Best of luck with your screening in Turkey.
From people inside PGS, I have heard that they will need a lot of pilots for the summer months.
Unfortunately you will be too late to catch that wave, but I don't think that PGS is the worst place to start your career.
I was in AYT until 31st October 2006.
Indeed it was frustrating from time to time, but I think the training and the flying we got was ok.
You will fly a lot of VOR, NDB and visual app's in difficult terrain etc. Great fun and a lot of challenge to your flying skills.
Some got kicked out during the linetraining, but to my knowledge these guys did not perform well. Thats what I heard from training captains and safety pilots.
These guys should never have been on that course. A screening would have prevented that, and it looks like they found out in Istanbul as well.
I feel sorry for those who spend a lot of money and now got another 30000 EUR to pay the bank, but some sense of reality would help before handing in the check...
For me it turned out to be the right decision and I know that it has been for many others.
Give it a shot and hopefully you will get some Boeing hours and a good start on your career as an airline pilot.
I can't give you any hints for the tests since we did'nt have it when I was there.
Have fun in sunturk/speedhorse/speedturk or whatever they call them selves...
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Hi DC-8
Im with PGS now - started typerating in Jan. 07 and have 150 hrs on type now (in just 5 weeks) I can highly recommend it.
The screening is not a problem at all - its a written psycho test with about 250 questions (no time limit) and a 5-10 min interview and a simtest.
the simtest it just to see general handling of a/c and 2 visual approaches - no SIDS, STARS or anything.
if you have further questions feel free to pm me on [email protected]
Jannik
Im with PGS now - started typerating in Jan. 07 and have 150 hrs on type now (in just 5 weeks) I can highly recommend it.
The screening is not a problem at all - its a written psycho test with about 250 questions (no time limit) and a 5-10 min interview and a simtest.
the simtest it just to see general handling of a/c and 2 visual approaches - no SIDS, STARS or anything.
if you have further questions feel free to pm me on [email protected]
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WHAT IS GOING ON HERE
What is wrong with all you people! You make it sound like paying to work is the best way to "boost" your career. By doing this you are destroying the aviation industry. How are other companies supposed to compete with an "airline" like Pegasus when they have pilots paying to go to work.
Please stop supporting these lousy, crappy organizations who just want your money.
I am shocked about the way you all talk about it. You make it sound like it's the most normal thing to do.
Please get back to reality and stop undermining our industry
What is wrong with all you people! You make it sound like paying to work is the best way to "boost" your career. By doing this you are destroying the aviation industry. How are other companies supposed to compete with an "airline" like Pegasus when they have pilots paying to go to work.
Please stop supporting these lousy, crappy organizations who just want your money.
I am shocked about the way you all talk about it. You make it sound like it's the most normal thing to do.
Please get back to reality and stop undermining our industry
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I am shocked about the way you all talk about it. You make it sound like it's the most normal thing to do.
Im afraid it has become close to normal - judging from your age it could seem like you have had a job for yrs and have no problems finding a job with thousands of hrs in the book - correct me if im wrong
Jannik
Im afraid it has become close to normal - judging from your age it could seem like you have had a job for yrs and have no problems finding a job with thousands of hrs in the book - correct me if im wrong
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YET AGAIN LIKE A DOG CHASING ITS TAIL WE COME BACK TO THE ARGUMENT OF WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE SHOULD PAY FOR TYPE RATINGS. i WAS OF THE VIEW THAT PEOPLE SHOULDNT FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT HAVE BEEN STATED A MILLION TIMES BEFORE. AND WHILE I WAS WORKING AS AN INSTRUCTOR WITH MORE MONEY GOING OUT THAN COMING IN EVERYONE ELSE WAS SEEING SENSE AND BUYING IN TO THE INDUSTRY. MY ONLY REGRET IS THAT I DIDNT BUY A TYPE RATING SOONER AND SAVE MY SELF A FEW YEARS IN LOST EARNINGS. i AGREE THAT IN A EUTOPIAN SOCIETY WE SHOULDNT HAVE TO PAY FOR A RATING BUT THATS JUST THE WORLD WE LIVE IN; SO GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE AND STOP TELLING EVERYONE HOW TO SPEND THEIR MONEY.
AS USUAL PLEASE FORGIVE THE SPELLING PUNCTUATION ETC.
AS USUAL PLEASE FORGIVE THE SPELLING PUNCTUATION ETC.
Educated Hillbilly
Well I am not necessarily against people buying ratings, but the group whom I do feel sorry for are the Turkish pilots (by the way I am not not Turkish), who are struggling to find jobs because "overseas" pilots are paying to fly with their local airlines. I doubt some of these Danish pilots would be quite supportive of of SSTR if it was Turkish pilots paying to fly on Danish airlines and were finding themselves priced out of the market.
I guess that is the true price of a freemarket economy (by the way I am instructor who is currently "fogged" in with weather so I have nothing better to do at the moment than waste time on pprune in the clubhouse).
In truth /I guess the JAR system is really the problem, allowing the modular / self improver route to hold a full CPL at 200 hours (also I am modular myself). I am not sure how the national licensing system worked in other European states, but the UK CAA self improver system meant everyone who didn't attend an integrated course had to obtain 700 hours to get a full CPL, hence most people had to instruct, para drop or something on a BCPL. Imagine if Ryanair had to wait for all the 200 hour Second Offcers it employed on SSTR scheme to obtain 700 hours through some other route, they would be forced to offer training bonds to attract candidates. I admit 500 hours of vfr hour building is irrelevant to flying an airliner, but at least the old system created a buffer in the system. So really it is the JAA system that has propagated the SSTR culture.
I guess that is the true price of a freemarket economy (by the way I am instructor who is currently "fogged" in with weather so I have nothing better to do at the moment than waste time on pprune in the clubhouse).
In truth /I guess the JAR system is really the problem, allowing the modular / self improver route to hold a full CPL at 200 hours (also I am modular myself). I am not sure how the national licensing system worked in other European states, but the UK CAA self improver system meant everyone who didn't attend an integrated course had to obtain 700 hours to get a full CPL, hence most people had to instruct, para drop or something on a BCPL. Imagine if Ryanair had to wait for all the 200 hour Second Offcers it employed on SSTR scheme to obtain 700 hours through some other route, they would be forced to offer training bonds to attract candidates. I admit 500 hours of vfr hour building is irrelevant to flying an airliner, but at least the old system created a buffer in the system. So really it is the JAA system that has propagated the SSTR culture.
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judging from your age it could seem like you have had a job for yrs and have no problems finding a job with thousands of hrs in the book - correct me if im wrong
I would just like to see newly graduates at least TRY to find another job before paying to work. And where does it stop? I thought the industry went wrong when people started buying typeratings. Then people started paying for 100 hrs linetraining, then 200 hrs, and now some people even buy 500 hrs linetraining
How far are you people willing to go to fly a 737 (One of the most boring airplanes - too many of them).????? Are you ready to pay for your own upgrade to command, pay for another typerating when your company needs you on another type, pay for your own transport when your flight originates elsewhere than your normal base, pay for uniform, pay for license renewals and OPC etc etc???? All this will happen if you don't start changing your attitude a bit. I know it can be very frustrating being unemployed, but please have a little patience!!!
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Hi ZAKKA
I had 3 yrs of patience until I realised that the bank still wanted their money back even if I did not have a flying job - so I decided that something had to happen - in those 3 ýears all I could get was 60 hrs of aerial photography - so watching guys straight from school getting jobs with a typerating I decided to go for it as well -
Where I come from GA is dead and no one will hire you if you have 250 hrs and no rating - and hard to get hrs without a job - I COULD pay for the hrs myself by why should I - I have to pay oor my own rating later anyway - so went straight for the rating - never had intentions of becoming an instructor ( think instructors should be people who WANT to instruct not just to build hrs quickly)
Before 9/11 when everything was good you more or less just needed 700-1000 hrs to get a job - no longer - Airlines prefer a guy with 250 hrs and typerating over a guy with 800 hrs and no typerating -
I did my rating and not surprised I had 2 jobinterview-offers 6 weeks after I got my rating -
Im sorry to tell you but the industry seems to have changed to the fact that you no longer just need to pay for your Frozen ATPL - but also your rating. Hopefully it will change - but im not spending more years waiting for it to happen already spent 3 yrs.
happy flying
Jannik
I had 3 yrs of patience until I realised that the bank still wanted their money back even if I did not have a flying job - so I decided that something had to happen - in those 3 ýears all I could get was 60 hrs of aerial photography - so watching guys straight from school getting jobs with a typerating I decided to go for it as well -
Where I come from GA is dead and no one will hire you if you have 250 hrs and no rating - and hard to get hrs without a job - I COULD pay for the hrs myself by why should I - I have to pay oor my own rating later anyway - so went straight for the rating - never had intentions of becoming an instructor ( think instructors should be people who WANT to instruct not just to build hrs quickly)
Before 9/11 when everything was good you more or less just needed 700-1000 hrs to get a job - no longer - Airlines prefer a guy with 250 hrs and typerating over a guy with 800 hrs and no typerating -
I did my rating and not surprised I had 2 jobinterview-offers 6 weeks after I got my rating -
Im sorry to tell you but the industry seems to have changed to the fact that you no longer just need to pay for your Frozen ATPL - but also your rating. Hopefully it will change - but im not spending more years waiting for it to happen already spent 3 yrs.
happy flying
Jannik
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Heya
I definately see your point. Waiting 3 years is enough.
So how is it going for you danish guys at pegasus?! What are your prospects when the charter season ends, going to ryan or what?!
regards
pstatic
I definately see your point. Waiting 3 years is enough.
So how is it going for you danish guys at pegasus?! What are your prospects when the charter season ends, going to ryan or what?!
regards
pstatic
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Anybody knows when the next course for PGS is starting?
I was told it would be either February or March. Anyone with more details?
And how many are going?
Thanks
D
I was told it would be either February or March. Anyone with more details?
And how many are going?
Thanks
D
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Are you considering taking the course or are you signed up and read to go.....??
have you been to the asessment? And do you know what it consists of? Where can I find more info about the company?
have you been to the asessment? And do you know what it consists of? Where can I find more info about the company?
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You can check their site www.flypgs.com or send your CV to [email protected]. They send you detailed info about the course and prices. Then you are automatically on their list to contact you for their next course.
I have heard from former pilots (also in the forum) that at the assessment they check your basic flying skills, not with failures etc.
I have heard from former pilots (also in the forum) that at the assessment they check your basic flying skills, not with failures etc.