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Why don't we help our friend A320 (if he really exists) rather than flame him. Come on mate, lets help you on the way to getting that first job. You do want a job don't you? Or do you just want to vent your splean all day long on an internet forum?
Now lets start with you telling us what you have done in the past say 6 months and we can take it from there. Give us lots of details and not general stuff. We want to be able to critique your approach afterall. Why don't you copy and paste part of your CV as well - taking out all the personal stuff or inserting a fake name and address if you want. There you go I reckon there will be loads of ppruners ready and willing to help you on your way to that first job.
Now lets start with you telling us what you have done in the past say 6 months and we can take it from there. Give us lots of details and not general stuff. We want to be able to critique your approach afterall. Why don't you copy and paste part of your CV as well - taking out all the personal stuff or inserting a fake name and address if you want. There you go I reckon there will be loads of ppruners ready and willing to help you on your way to that first job.
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A320 is a liar.
He used to post on here as Hulk (amongst many others) and one day after boasting that he had a job flying Embraers, he then asked a question about the Met exam. (Obviously forgot which user he was)
If he ever gets a job flying (would you employ him?) he would still have nothing to offer propectives pilots but trollery and bollards. Never has the big red sentence at the bottom of the screen been more appropriate.
He used to post on here as Hulk (amongst many others) and one day after boasting that he had a job flying Embraers, he then asked a question about the Met exam. (Obviously forgot which user he was)
If he ever gets a job flying (would you employ him?) he would still have nothing to offer propectives pilots but trollery and bollards. Never has the big red sentence at the bottom of the screen been more appropriate.
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He used to post on here as Hulk (amongst many others) and one day after boasting that he had a job flying Embraers, he then asked a question about the Met exam. (Obviously forgot which user he was)
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like you, not jet experience....not enough turboprop experience, not enough hours multi crew, not enough,....
them!!!
Luke is living on a paradise island called Great Britain...
them!!!
Luke is living on a paradise island called Great Britain...
David, luke is right, recruitment is running red hot in the UK at the moment..you need to think of a few ways to get yourself to the head of the queue, with your experience I think a personal visit to some of these operators will do the job. But its up to you
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A320
I got my PPL in 2002
I got my CPL in 2003
I got my FI ticket in 2004
I quit my day job and started Instructing in April 2004
I got another new job instructing CPL/IR January 2005
I got a job flying B737NG's in January 2006
I did not moan or bitch
I just got on with it
I am not rich
I did not go intergrated
I did not know anybody in this industry until I started
I do not normally start this many sentences with "I" especailly on a CV
A320 the jobs are there you just need to look and stop posting on this site
You haven't got a job because your attitude
, but they do make me laugh.
I got my CPL in 2003
I got my FI ticket in 2004
I quit my day job and started Instructing in April 2004
I got another new job instructing CPL/IR January 2005
I got a job flying B737NG's in January 2006
I did not moan or bitch
I just got on with it
I am not rich
I did not go intergrated
I did not know anybody in this industry until I started
I do not normally start this many sentences with "I" especailly on a CV
A320 the jobs are there you just need to look and stop posting on this site
You haven't got a job because your attitude
, but they do make me laugh.
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basically all these conflicts boil down to if you WORK HARD enough and look hard enough you can do/get anything you want! Go 4 it.
If you sit around waiting for things to turn up on your doorstep then you aint got a prayer!
If you sit around waiting for things to turn up on your doorstep then you aint got a prayer!
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gosh!!!, here we are again at rejecting your frustration on me.
some of you say:"I know a guy who has been hired by xxx".
but I never hear :" I have been hired...."
when browsing this forum, I conclude that 99% of pilots do not find a job, and 1% know someone who got a job.there is simply no job if you don't pay a fortune for a type rating or for eagle jet/ryanair/....
guys, you really make me laugh, at the end, who is short of money with a blue license that everybody reject???stop to dream, get a real job in IT and have a life!
some of you say:"I know a guy who has been hired by xxx".
but I never hear :" I have been hired...."
when browsing this forum, I conclude that 99% of pilots do not find a job, and 1% know someone who got a job.there is simply no job if you don't pay a fortune for a type rating or for eagle jet/ryanair/....
guys, you really make me laugh, at the end, who is short of money with a blue license that everybody reject???stop to dream, get a real job in IT and have a life!
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Sir Norman, mad_jock, Check Mags and I have all talked about our own jobs. So since when was "four times" equivalent to "never"? Why do you expect people who have jobs to come back to a forum primarily for the benefit of those looking for their first commercial work? Of course most of those here will be those not yet flying for a living. Perhaps the only job you are less suitable for than being a pilot is being a statistician.
When did you last see someone with a job in IT and a life? (
Only kidding FFF - you got out in time!)
When did you last see someone with a job in IT and a life? (
Only kidding FFF - you got out in time!)
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gosh!!!, here we are again at rejecting your frustration on me.
some of you say:"I know a guy who has been hired by xxx".
but I never hear :" I have been hired...."
when browsing this forum, I conclude that 99% of pilots do not find a job, and 1% know someone who got a job.there is simply no job if you don't pay a fortune for a type rating or for eagle jet/ryanair/....
and I am not looking at friends here ! I just tell you what I see and I am sorry for all my friends who write me telling me they have not found a job after years of research.
some of you say:"I know a guy who has been hired by xxx".
but I never hear :" I have been hired...."
when browsing this forum, I conclude that 99% of pilots do not find a job, and 1% know someone who got a job.there is simply no job if you don't pay a fortune for a type rating or for eagle jet/ryanair/....
and I am not looking at friends here ! I just tell you what I see and I am sorry for all my friends who write me telling me they have not found a job after years of research.
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and where exactly the are recruiting red hot in UK???I want a good laugh!
"2500tt, 1000h on type, do not apply if you do not have these quealifications"
or
"500 euro for the interview, 25000 euro if selected, pay for line training,..."
etc, etc,...
Sorry guys, UK is not pink but grey.Maybe you should change your glasses!!!!
some of you on this forum, give you the fake impression that there is a pilot shortage,and companies are looking for pilots.
it is not true, airline are NOT looking for pilots.They just have to wait, and ask for money!they are playing a little game with you... Please, apply and see by yourself...
@davidils
I am sorry for you, but this is true.I receive many emails from friends with 1000h,2000h and over who do not find any job. Europe&UK.and all are fully qualified and very professional.we are too many pilots in this world.
"2500tt, 1000h on type, do not apply if you do not have these quealifications"
or
"500 euro for the interview, 25000 euro if selected, pay for line training,..."
etc, etc,...
Sorry guys, UK is not pink but grey.Maybe you should change your glasses!!!!
some of you on this forum, give you the fake impression that there is a pilot shortage,and companies are looking for pilots.
it is not true, airline are NOT looking for pilots.They just have to wait, and ask for money!they are playing a little game with you... Please, apply and see by yourself...
@davidils
I am sorry for you, but this is true.I receive many emails from friends with 1000h,2000h and over who do not find any job. Europe&UK.and all are fully qualified and very professional.we are too many pilots in this world.
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320, the job market in the Uk doesn't get any better!
The turbo prop guys are haemorrhaging pilots at the moment and the jet operators are losing quite a few to VS & BA.
David, we have all been there, try not to get into the "life isn't fair" rut as it will ensure that you will never get a job, most have us have been there and endured the same.
The turbo prop guys are haemorrhaging pilots at the moment and the jet operators are losing quite a few to VS & BA.
David, we have all been there, try not to get into the "life isn't fair" rut as it will ensure that you will never get a job, most have us have been there and endured the same.
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A320 you don't hear of people getting jobs on wannabies.
They are out of here. Usually you can only spot someone has got a job because they stop posting questions in the wannabie forums. About 6 months later they reappear in the professional forums asking questions on aircraft types and procedures.
I don't know what you or your friends have going against you. Maybe its nationality, but I have met plenty of european low hour pilots on thier first job in the UK. I will admit nearly all of them trained under the British exam system. You have all the european stereo types going against you. Your own aviation industry isn't as boyant as the UK one or its rife with backroom politics who gets a job. Who can blame UK operators for prefering home grown instead of a unknown personality from abroad. The kiwi's and aussies have a reputation as hard working and playing pilots. They have have just as much chance of getting a job as the UK pilots, some companys they have a slight advantage.
It might be bad news for low hour pilots where you are but in the UK for locals it really isn't bad at all for those that work to succeed.
MJ
They are out of here. Usually you can only spot someone has got a job because they stop posting questions in the wannabie forums. About 6 months later they reappear in the professional forums asking questions on aircraft types and procedures.
I don't know what you or your friends have going against you. Maybe its nationality, but I have met plenty of european low hour pilots on thier first job in the UK. I will admit nearly all of them trained under the British exam system. You have all the european stereo types going against you. Your own aviation industry isn't as boyant as the UK one or its rife with backroom politics who gets a job. Who can blame UK operators for prefering home grown instead of a unknown personality from abroad. The kiwi's and aussies have a reputation as hard working and playing pilots. They have have just as much chance of getting a job as the UK pilots, some companys they have a slight advantage.
It might be bad news for low hour pilots where you are but in the UK for locals it really isn't bad at all for those that work to succeed.
MJ
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Please fellow pilots, stop criticising A320 Rider.
I would like to congratulate him for his courage and abnegation.
So dear A320, cher ami, I think that I have a job for you wich doesn t require much flight experience, nor Type Rating.
Unfortunately, I think that it is a single Pilot operation but very well paid.
The company is based in the States but might as well have branches in europe.
Good night and Good luck my friend. Wishing you all the best
http://members.cox.net/~ronrapp/thunderbird_crash.mpeg
I would like to congratulate him for his courage and abnegation.
So dear A320, cher ami, I think that I have a job for you wich doesn t require much flight experience, nor Type Rating.
Unfortunately, I think that it is a single Pilot operation but very well paid.
The company is based in the States but might as well have branches in europe.
Good night and Good luck my friend. Wishing you all the best
http://members.cox.net/~ronrapp/thunderbird_crash.mpeg
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Your lies are getting more obvious.
I post something that proves your post is dishonest, and you repeat the same thing. How stupid do you have to be to do that?
Your lies are getting more obvious.
I post something that proves your post is dishonest, and you repeat the same thing. How stupid do you have to be to do that?
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Originally Posted by machlimter99
Where does it say that Eastern needs pilots? Whats the point of applying if they are not advertising for people! Unless you guys know better.
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Originally Posted by machlimiter
Whats the point of applying if they are not advertising for people!