Airline 'PFO' letters
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Airline 'PFO' letters
I have just this morning received a letter regarding a CV I sent to an airline this week.
The letter basically says if I have not heard from the again soon, please reapply. Meanwhile they'll hold my details and notify me of vacancies, or of a possible interview in the future.
Is this a thanks but no thanks letter? Sounds dumb I know, but its the first time I have received a letter like this.
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The letter basically says if I have not heard from the again soon, please reapply. Meanwhile they'll hold my details and notify me of vacancies, or of a possible interview in the future.
Is this a thanks but no thanks letter? Sounds dumb I know, but its the first time I have received a letter like this.
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Had the same myself, guess it’s a polite way of saying we know you exist & we will contact you if we decide we want to.
Better than the usual I suppose, just be happy they know you're alive. It'll turn around for us all one day?
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Better than the usual I suppose, just be happy they know you're alive. It'll turn around for us all one day?
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I'm pleased that the airline concerned took time out to at least write a letter at all.
At least it wasn't, "sorry, you have no experience and we are not and will never be interested "
I will do as they say, re-apply later this month.
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At least it wasn't, "sorry, you have no experience and we are not and will never be interested "
I will do as they say, re-apply later this month.
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Just another student, did you send your CV in about a known vacancy? or just on the off chance? If it was on the off chance your letter is encouraging, If you were applying for a posistion then it sounds like they have found someone else
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a) they have at least replied
B) it doesnt matter anyway.
I have friends who have been called for interview by phone and the day that they are leaving through the door for said interview a PFO has landed on the door step from the same company.
Letters back from the company mean nothing. Its HR's method of doing there job they get the letter they responed with a general FO. Pass the CV down the line which may get filed in the bucket it may not. If your really lucky someones notice will have hit the desk 2 mins before your CV has and 2 mins later the cp will phone. If you don't answer its in the bin and someone else gets called
When you hear storys of CP's grabbing the top half of a pile and dumping it in the bucket saying they don't need unlucky pilots its true.
MJ
B) it doesnt matter anyway.
I have friends who have been called for interview by phone and the day that they are leaving through the door for said interview a PFO has landed on the door step from the same company.
Letters back from the company mean nothing. Its HR's method of doing there job they get the letter they responed with a general FO. Pass the CV down the line which may get filed in the bucket it may not. If your really lucky someones notice will have hit the desk 2 mins before your CV has and 2 mins later the cp will phone. If you don't answer its in the bin and someone else gets called
When you hear storys of CP's grabbing the top half of a pile and dumping it in the bucket saying they don't need unlucky pilots its true.
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When you hear storys of CP's grabbing the top half of a pile and dumping it in the bucket saying they don't need unlucky pilots its true.
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I was just sending off a CV and a cover letter, there was no position advertised that I was applying for, if that helps.
I have heard this company will be hiring very soon.
Thanks for the replies.
JAS
I have heard this company will be hiring very soon.
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As 'Puritan' said in his post (now a Sticky) at the top of this forum:
It's somewhat harsh, but also likewise true advice.
2). Making applications.
Applying for employment as a pilot does not entitle one to a reply, and certainly not if you application was unsolicited, i.e. the airline has not advertised for applications, you just thought you’d send one in anyway on the off chance.
Replying to the hundreds, and/or thousands, of applications takes time and requires that somebody is assigned to the task and, ergo, that costs money; and airlines hate (neigh, loathe) spending money, unless they absolutely have to.
Do not feel diss’d just because you don’t get a reply to your CV from an airline that is not recruiting.
Applying for employment as a pilot does not entitle one to a reply, and certainly not if you application was unsolicited, i.e. the airline has not advertised for applications, you just thought you’d send one in anyway on the off chance.
Replying to the hundreds, and/or thousands, of applications takes time and requires that somebody is assigned to the task and, ergo, that costs money; and airlines hate (neigh, loathe) spending money, unless they absolutely have to.
Do not feel diss’d just because you don’t get a reply to your CV from an airline that is not recruiting.
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Don't worry about it.
Each company has different ways of dealing with applications. Most don't advertise as such for low hour pilots because it costs money and they don't have to. So by putting a well written personal covering letter to that company you have at least let them know you are there.
They may respond to you with a letter or email they may not.
You can put your CV in in Jan and get no contact but then a phone call 6 months later occurs. Usually telling you to get your backside somewhere the next day. Then afterwards telling you the type rating course starts on Monday. and tough if you have a holiday booked.
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Each company has different ways of dealing with applications. Most don't advertise as such for low hour pilots because it costs money and they don't have to. So by putting a well written personal covering letter to that company you have at least let them know you are there.
They may respond to you with a letter or email they may not.
You can put your CV in in Jan and get no contact but then a phone call 6 months later occurs. Usually telling you to get your backside somewhere the next day. Then afterwards telling you the type rating course starts on Monday. and tough if you have a holiday booked.
MJ
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That sounds good to me mad_jock, I'm free tomorrow and there will always be other holidays
As I said before, I'm delighted they even responded to what was, just sending a CV and a letter on the off chance.I didn't think I'd hear from them at all and it quite possibly means someone took time out to read my 'application.'
At the minute I'm trying to get any sort of job. I have the prospect of my HSBC loan repayments looming large for next year. No jobs at the airport, apart from a data valuation clerk working in the cargo department of a UK airline. I've applied for that, it would be a change of scenery for me and get my foot slightly in the door.
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As I said before, I'm delighted they even responded to what was, just sending a CV and a letter on the off chance.I didn't think I'd hear from them at all and it quite possibly means someone took time out to read my 'application.'
At the minute I'm trying to get any sort of job. I have the prospect of my HSBC loan repayments looming large for next year. No jobs at the airport, apart from a data valuation clerk working in the cargo department of a UK airline. I've applied for that, it would be a change of scenery for me and get my foot slightly in the door.
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Do not despair,
went to a talk by a very senior easy pilot tonight who said that every airline would be gagging for pilots in the next 12 months, they can't train em fast enough (and no he wasn't talking for easy or towing the company line). So just hang in there. you will get there. just sent another 100cv's today (that totals to about 700 in total so far).
If you want it bad enough you'll get the chance to blow it.
went to a talk by a very senior easy pilot tonight who said that every airline would be gagging for pilots in the next 12 months, they can't train em fast enough (and no he wasn't talking for easy or towing the company line). So just hang in there. you will get there. just sent another 100cv's today (that totals to about 700 in total so far).
If you want it bad enough you'll get the chance to blow it.
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Thanks for the replies again.
I'm in two minds where to focus my attention.As soon as I get some money coming in, I will feel better about spending time sending off C.V's etc right now its just finding a 9-5 that concerns me
Airlines desperate for Pilot's? Are these the lessor spotted low hour type they're after (such as myself )
The industry is recovering and is on the up, there is no doubt.I just hope that some insane individuals or other such incident do not blow it.
Good luck to everyone hunting.
I'm in two minds where to focus my attention.As soon as I get some money coming in, I will feel better about spending time sending off C.V's etc right now its just finding a 9-5 that concerns me
Airlines desperate for Pilot's? Are these the lessor spotted low hour type they're after
(such as myself ) The industry is recovering and is on the up, there is no doubt.I just hope that some insane individuals or other such incident do not blow it.
Good luck to everyone hunting.
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Jas don't waste your time sending stock CV's and covering letters.
Find out about the company tailor your CV for thier operation. Give a personal covering letter referencing what you know about the operation. Its a lot of work but worth it in the end.
Its not unknown for some wannabies to not even get into 10's of CV's sent out.
MJ
Find out about the company tailor your CV for thier operation. Give a personal covering letter referencing what you know about the operation. Its a lot of work but worth it in the end.
Its not unknown for some wannabies to not even get into 10's of CV's sent out.
MJ
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Cortilla....... Its trying to get a 9-5 job that is the problem right now 
mad_jock......... So far I have only sent two, and heard back from one.I only intend to send CV's that have tailor made cover letters, I do this when I have found enough information about the company and who to send it to.
Putting in the work into the CV's etc is not an issue, I'm more than willing to do it.Its a case of trying to find a day job, not giving one up
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mad_jock......... So far I have only sent two, and heard back from one.I only intend to send CV's that have tailor made cover letters, I do this when I have found enough information about the company and who to send it to.
Putting in the work into the CV's etc is not an issue, I'm more than willing to do it.Its a case of trying to find a day job, not giving one up
Cheers
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