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Hi mate:
I sent a mail to HR last week and they said no news up to the moment.
I think we are not gonna start till march or april so they will pobably call us not before december or january.
Not many people into the holding pool.
Any more news will be appreciated.
Regards to all of you.
Mister.
I sent a mail to HR last week and they said no news up to the moment.
I think we are not gonna start till march or april so they will pobably call us not before december or january.
Not many people into the holding pool.
Any more news will be appreciated.
Regards to all of you.
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I cant see T fly making you wait until Mar April to start and there are a number of reasons for this.
First off, its nearly 3 months in Southampton at CTC for the type rating training.
Secondly, once that is done you have your emerg. procedures, crm, pre line brief to complete.
Thirdly, they will then have to schedule a day for your base training for your take off and landings
Most importantly, since there is a lack of line trainers you will probably be doing your line training in Germany which is another 3 months.
So a start date in March or April would see you online making money for the company around Sept or October which wouldnt help the company if pilots are needed for summer 2006
Just so I dont confuse anyone, this is for the 737 fleet its a bit different for the 757 767
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First off, its nearly 3 months in Southampton at CTC for the type rating training.
Secondly, once that is done you have your emerg. procedures, crm, pre line brief to complete.
Thirdly, they will then have to schedule a day for your base training for your take off and landings
Most importantly, since there is a lack of line trainers you will probably be doing your line training in Germany which is another 3 months.
So a start date in March or April would see you online making money for the company around Sept or October which wouldnt help the company if pilots are needed for summer 2006
Just so I dont confuse anyone, this is for the 737 fleet its a bit different for the 757 767
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Hi CSF
I'd like to be optimistic, but with most of us in the hold pool, I believe, on 3-month notice periods, even if the good news came later today, that's still March 6th till anyone could start, at the earliest!
My personal fear is they may give a course-date within 3 months and that my current company won't let me leave any earlier... so I'd have to turn Thomson down until they offered a new course outside of a 3 month-period.
Don't you love airline management
Anyone's thoughts?
Cheers,
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I'd like to be optimistic, but with most of us in the hold pool, I believe, on 3-month notice periods, even if the good news came later today, that's still March 6th till anyone could start, at the earliest!
My personal fear is they may give a course-date within 3 months and that my current company won't let me leave any earlier... so I'd have to turn Thomson down until they offered a new course outside of a 3 month-period.
Don't you love airline management
Anyone's thoughts?
Cheers,
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3 month notice
Well I look at it this way, if you are paid monthly you owe the company 1 months notice, if you are paid every 2 weeks you owe the company 2 weeks notice...
If I was talking about my future and a career progression 1 month would be all I would give considering t fly will not be hiring for ever and there are others in the pool that dont have to give any notice......You may just wait yourself out of a job..
When I started I was in a position not to have to give any notice and two weeks later I was on course. Four others in my course were in the same situation. Its tough because you want to do right by your current employer but if you have vacation time owed to you dont take it, use that towards your notice time or talk to your employer about what you want to do. If they are a half decent employer and you are valued they will understand
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If I was talking about my future and a career progression 1 month would be all I would give considering t fly will not be hiring for ever and there are others in the pool that dont have to give any notice......You may just wait yourself out of a job..
When I started I was in a position not to have to give any notice and two weeks later I was on course. Four others in my course were in the same situation. Its tough because you want to do right by your current employer but if you have vacation time owed to you dont take it, use that towards your notice time or talk to your employer about what you want to do. If they are a half decent employer and you are valued they will understand
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Wrt leaving before the end of your notice period, I would think about it twice... As HR told me once, we are a reputable airline !
The company knows you need 3 months notice and if they contact you for a course with less than that, there is no problem in turning it down.
I see where chockstartfish comes from but it is a small world out there so Pi**ing on someone else's chips is not a good idea.
Plenty of recruitment going on for the next or two a least so I would advise patience and a clean nose.
If you join Tfly, it is a career move so better not jeopardise it in anyway.
As for waiting until March for a course I can see that very well.... First because they know you need 3 months notice.
There is a slight excess in crew numbers due to a more relaxed programme during the winter.
CVT is winding down its operations due to some repairs on the runway etc...
There are ongoing courses/Line training taking place as we speak so the pipe isn't empty.
There are line trainers being trained and some being transferred from the 757 so training can take place next year, here in the UK.
As for the pilot numbers for next summer well, there are the same requirements than this summer... What I mean is that unless we get more aircrafts delivered the the numbers remain the same. We have just added another 73NG this week but I am sure that with the pressure now on crew training to do better than last summer, if we have to slow down deliveries in order to deliver, that's what will be done.
As for training in Germany it is an option but I was under the impression it was for Command courses mostly.
March/April sounds good... Jan and Feb courses are for DECs as far as I have heard.
The company knows you need 3 months notice and if they contact you for a course with less than that, there is no problem in turning it down.
I see where chockstartfish comes from but it is a small world out there so Pi**ing on someone else's chips is not a good idea.
Plenty of recruitment going on for the next or two a least so I would advise patience and a clean nose.
If you join Tfly, it is a career move so better not jeopardise it in anyway.
As for waiting until March for a course I can see that very well.... First because they know you need 3 months notice.
There is a slight excess in crew numbers due to a more relaxed programme during the winter.
CVT is winding down its operations due to some repairs on the runway etc...
There are ongoing courses/Line training taking place as we speak so the pipe isn't empty.
There are line trainers being trained and some being transferred from the 757 so training can take place next year, here in the UK.
As for the pilot numbers for next summer well, there are the same requirements than this summer... What I mean is that unless we get more aircrafts delivered the the numbers remain the same. We have just added another 73NG this week but I am sure that with the pressure now on crew training to do better than last summer, if we have to slow down deliveries in order to deliver, that's what will be done.
As for training in Germany it is an option but I was under the impression it was for Command courses mostly.
March/April sounds good... Jan and Feb courses are for DECs as far as I have heard.
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90 percent of new hire fos on the 737 are going to Germany,
My point with the notice time is. If you have vacation time use it towards the notice time required and TALK to your employer if at all able, and tell them you are thinking about leaving. They may relax the notice time and besides, they will appreciate your honesty IF they are a half decent employer.
Lets face it turbo prop operators know its a stepping stone and at some point expect you to leave, so again my advise is ask them see what they say, if they want to hold back some pay let them if in the big scheme of things you will be better off...
csf
My point with the notice time is. If you have vacation time use it towards the notice time required and TALK to your employer if at all able, and tell them you are thinking about leaving. They may relax the notice time and besides, they will appreciate your honesty IF they are a half decent employer.
Lets face it turbo prop operators know its a stepping stone and at some point expect you to leave, so again my advise is ask them see what they say, if they want to hold back some pay let them if in the big scheme of things you will be better off...
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Sure it's definitely worth talking to your present boss... With a bit of luck they have excess crew and won't mind let you go early.
At other times though when they become desperate to hold on crew (growth period, high attrition rate), they might really insist on you working all the way.
Depends... Personally I didn't get the choice. They simply wouldn't let me go, full stop.
Back to Germany... Like I said I wasn't aware of that for FOs.
At other times though when they become desperate to hold on crew (growth period, high attrition rate), they might really insist on you working all the way.
Depends... Personally I didn't get the choice. They simply wouldn't let me go, full stop.
Back to Germany... Like I said I wasn't aware of that for FOs.
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Hi again CSF,
My company has proved to be inflexible and stubborn in virtually all matters since I've been there, culminating in recently over-turning a BALPA vote on a pay-deal from April and simply just imposing it anyway. It's one of the reasons why people are leaving as quickly as they can.
Due to this, there is very little chance of them relaxing on their 3-month rule. Obviously, I'll do everything within my power, and then some, because I want to go to T-Fly as soon as possible!
Hopefully it won't come to this though!
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We're jets...not props!
My company has proved to be inflexible and stubborn in virtually all matters since I've been there, culminating in recently over-turning a BALPA vote on a pay-deal from April and simply just imposing it anyway. It's one of the reasons why people are leaving as quickly as they can.
Due to this, there is very little chance of them relaxing on their 3-month rule. Obviously, I'll do everything within my power, and then some, because I want to go to T-Fly as soon as possible!
Hopefully it won't come to this though!
Cheers,
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We're jets...not props!
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Germany
Hi all,
AMEX yes they are sndeing F/O's and S/O to germany.
I will be going out there in January for about six to seven weeks or until i finish line training.
The does seem to be a lot of talk about more and more people coming but as was said it will depend upon they keep the standard of service.
Good luck to those who eventually do get a job.
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AMEX yes they are sndeing F/O's and S/O to germany.
I will be going out there in January for about six to seven weeks or until i finish line training.
The does seem to be a lot of talk about more and more people coming but as was said it will depend upon they keep the standard of service.
Good luck to those who eventually do get a job.
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Thanks for the update.
Are you guys aware of any command training taking place in Germany ? Wondering if they have swapped around FO/Command training location or if they are simply making the most of all slots now available.
I must say with the amount of training taking place or about to (and early in the year too!!), it is good news for next summer. I don't think anyone wanted to see a repeat of this year's and our overall performance will certainly improve greatly.
Enjoy the NG
Be ready for the Classics
, particularly the 500s(disclaimer: I know the 100&200 are the real classics but that's what the 300/500 now are considered to be).
Are you guys aware of any command training taking place in Germany ? Wondering if they have swapped around FO/Command training location or if they are simply making the most of all slots now available.
I must say with the amount of training taking place or about to (and early in the year too!!), it is good news for next summer. I don't think anyone wanted to see a repeat of this year's and our overall performance will certainly improve greatly.
Enjoy the NG
Be ready for the Classics, particularly the 500s(disclaimer: I know the 100&200 are the real classics but that's what the 300/500 now are considered to be).