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No probs, No idea about the command training I think that Hapag just seem more able to cope at the moment with line training. What with everyone in the UK being run off their feet.
Am hoping that by the time I get back that they will open up LGW as a 73 base.
For everyone else, I started at CTC on the 18th Oct and the course before had just started in the sims, my course had 8 and so did the one before, we then started in the sims and another course of 8 started.
I think it wont be to long before someone gets a call, but they are rammed at CTC for training.
Keep the faith
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No probs, No idea about the command training I think that Hapag just seem more able to cope at the moment with line training. What with everyone in the UK being run off their feet.
Am hoping that by the time I get back that they will open up LGW as a 73 base.
For everyone else, I started at CTC on the 18th Oct and the course before had just started in the sims, my course had 8 and so did the one before, we then started in the sims and another course of 8 started.
I think it wont be to long before someone gets a call, but they are rammed at CTC for training.
Keep the faith
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Yep, plans for a 757 course early new year, 737 courses progressing but hampered by lack of trainers so having to use CTC for Base and Hapag for Line Training.
Pre Line Brief, CRM, Wet Drips, SEP and aircraft training still in UK.
Currently 3 757 courses at various stages which are soaking up a lot of line trainers, emphasis to change for some Comd training come Feb, then I believe a few more RHS courses.
Pre Line Brief, CRM, Wet Drips, SEP and aircraft training still in UK.
Currently 3 757 courses at various stages which are soaking up a lot of line trainers, emphasis to change for some Comd training come Feb, then I believe a few more RHS courses.
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Hi All,
Well it does sound like good news for sure. What worries me though is that earlier, I finally caved in to temptation and e-mailed HR to see if they had any news or even rumours for that matter! I was told that there was no news, and wouldn't be any till mid January now. So with that in mind, I'd probably say May will be the earliest for a course start date. Seems a bit strange, cos Summer will be over by the time we get on-line...or should I say "IF"
*Note to self - try and find some optimism again....
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Well it does sound like good news for sure. What worries me though is that earlier, I finally caved in to temptation and e-mailed HR to see if they had any news or even rumours for that matter! I was told that there was no news, and wouldn't be any till mid January now. So with that in mind, I'd probably say May will be the earliest for a course start date. Seems a bit strange, cos Summer will be over by the time we get on-line...or should I say "IF"
*Note to self - try and find some optimism again....
Cheers
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Me again....
Would anyone like to speculate as to whether there are seperate holding pools for people waiting on 73 or 75 courses? I was under the impression that there was just one pool, and they'd take people from this as and when they needed, with it being sort of "pot-luck" which fleet you would get....
Any thoughts/comments welcomed!
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Would anyone like to speculate as to whether there are seperate holding pools for people waiting on 73 or 75 courses? I was under the impression that there was just one pool, and they'd take people from this as and when they needed, with it being sort of "pot-luck" which fleet you would get....
Any thoughts/comments welcomed!
Cheers,
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Some answers:
1. There is only one holding pool.
2. Don't worry about starting mid summer & missing what you suppose to be the busy period. Unlike most of our competitors, the peak period for crew numbers is currently during the winter period of the Hadj. There is also an increasing amount of longhaul in the winter. Together this two programmes soak up an awful lot of crew. In fact, at the moment, training has been cut to the minimum in order to sustain the operational programme. When the Hadj finishes, training will increase again.
3. As I understand it, they now have the required numbers for next summer, but that assumes that the planned standby aircraft (both 73 & 75/76) are kept for just that purpose & do not have any of their 'capacity' sold seperately. My guess is that the latter will happen to some extent.
1. There is only one holding pool.
2. Don't worry about starting mid summer & missing what you suppose to be the busy period. Unlike most of our competitors, the peak period for crew numbers is currently during the winter period of the Hadj. There is also an increasing amount of longhaul in the winter. Together this two programmes soak up an awful lot of crew. In fact, at the moment, training has been cut to the minimum in order to sustain the operational programme. When the Hadj finishes, training will increase again.
3. As I understand it, they now have the required numbers for next summer, but that assumes that the planned standby aircraft (both 73 & 75/76) are kept for just that purpose & do not have any of their 'capacity' sold seperately. My guess is that the latter will happen to some extent.
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To All in The Pool
Wrt my earlier post, everything at the moment is flat out & I guess it will be into the new year and beyond before you hear any news.
Be patient & keep on looking! You're in "The Pool" & that has some standing.
Wrt my earlier post, everything at the moment is flat out & I guess it will be into the new year and beyond before you hear any news.
Be patient & keep on looking! You're in "The Pool" & that has some standing.
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WARNING: The following post has a big Health Warning attached. Don't take it as gospel!
Backtrack is spot on. Only one pool. Training is flat out, at least 3 courses in or fast approaching Line Training, approx 36 bods. Command Training starting again in Feb so lots of Line Trainers and TREs / TRIs soaked up by that.
What fleet? I think we will be 1 757 down and 4 737 up for next summer? Do the math as they say. That said, a fat year for retirements coming up on 75/6. Been involved in a course on each fleet recently and the spread seemed to be pretty equal between low hours and other airline entrants, possibly slightly heavier on the experienced guys going to 757. Still a fair number of DEP Captains on 737, none on 75 as yet. Time is approaching where guys who bid to 737 for quick Commands will be able yo bid back to 75/6. Whether they get to come back as Capts is a big if due complex seniority issues.
Summary: Wait out, either fleet, IMHO worth waiting for, good T+Cs, interesting times ahead and we are busy all year.
Backtrack is spot on. Only one pool. Training is flat out, at least 3 courses in or fast approaching Line Training, approx 36 bods. Command Training starting again in Feb so lots of Line Trainers and TREs / TRIs soaked up by that.
What fleet? I think we will be 1 757 down and 4 737 up for next summer? Do the math as they say. That said, a fat year for retirements coming up on 75/6. Been involved in a course on each fleet recently and the spread seemed to be pretty equal between low hours and other airline entrants, possibly slightly heavier on the experienced guys going to 757. Still a fair number of DEP Captains on 737, none on 75 as yet. Time is approaching where guys who bid to 737 for quick Commands will be able yo bid back to 75/6. Whether they get to come back as Capts is a big if due complex seniority issues.
Summary: Wait out, either fleet, IMHO worth waiting for, good T+Cs, interesting times ahead and we are busy all year.
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Hi all,
Got the call yesterday with the good news. Start date for a 757 course March 20th!! Only concern is choice of base at the moment... CWL, MAN or NCL. As a London-lad, I'm obviously hoping that a local base will become available at some point soon. I've just filled out the Base Bid form and listed the bases in order of distance from London. However, as being the youngest of the 12 joining on the 20th, I may have a bit of a wait for this!
To everyone else who was previously in the pool: Let's get in contact, etc! Looks as though we're going to be spending a few months together in March!
Have a good Christmas everyone.
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Got the call yesterday with the good news. Start date for a 757 course March 20th!! Only concern is choice of base at the moment... CWL, MAN or NCL. As a London-lad, I'm obviously hoping that a local base will become available at some point soon. I've just filled out the Base Bid form and listed the bases in order of distance from London. However, as being the youngest of the 12 joining on the 20th, I may have a bit of a wait for this!
To everyone else who was previously in the pool: Let's get in contact, etc! Looks as though we're going to be spending a few months together in March!
Have a good Christmas everyone.
Cheers,
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Those yet to hear: Don't panic just yet, Human Remains, sorry, Human Resources is not known for covering itself in glory on the admin front. Or any other front for that matter.
Those who have heard: Welcome. Out of interest, what's your background? PM if you prefer or even ignore. Enjoy the course, see you soon.
Those who have heard: Welcome. Out of interest, what's your background? PM if you prefer or even ignore. Enjoy the course, see you soon.
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Crikey,
Guys, I can't believe there are those still left in the pool without getting called. The course is definitely for 12 people, and I didn't think the pool was THAT full.... Maybe because you're in different countries, the communication is a bit slow?! Or perhaps, I seem to remember some of you guys not needing 3 months notice! Perhaps they will call you a bit nearer the time.
Just for the record, I've got about 1200 hours, including around 1000 hours jet. So given that I'll be flying throughout my three-month notice period, I'd hope to be pushing for an FO slot very soon!
Cheers,
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Guys, I can't believe there are those still left in the pool without getting called. The course is definitely for 12 people, and I didn't think the pool was THAT full.... Maybe because you're in different countries, the communication is a bit slow?! Or perhaps, I seem to remember some of you guys not needing 3 months notice! Perhaps they will call you a bit nearer the time.
Just for the record, I've got about 1200 hours, including around 1000 hours jet. So given that I'll be flying throughout my three-month notice period, I'd hope to be pushing for an FO slot very soon!
Cheers,
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There were 22 people in the pool (I called HR)
They didn't call me because I was for the S/O position. (low time ab-initio)
Next week I have got another interview with a dutch airline (jet) so I just take the first contract I can get.
Ofcourse I want to fly for Tfly, but I am not going to say 'no' to other airlines where I can fly 737 NG and live in my own country..
so... I hope they will call me too before I have to choose
goodluck to those who did got the call !
They didn't call me because I was for the S/O position. (low time ab-initio)
Next week I have got another interview with a dutch airline (jet) so I just take the first contract I can get.
Ofcourse I want to fly for Tfly, but I am not going to say 'no' to other airlines where I can fly 737 NG and live in my own country..
so... I hope they will call me too before I have to choose
goodluck to those who did got the call !
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Congrats
Hey Shortcut,
Congrats man. See a little patients and look what you got.
As for the base thing, if you head south stop when you get wet, thats where i live and my base will be DSA, yippee, not. But hey I am only thankful that I now have a job.
See you at next years Xmas bash.
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Congrats man. See a little patients and look what you got.
As for the base thing, if you head south stop when you get wet, thats where i live and my base will be DSA, yippee, not. But hey I am only thankful that I now have a job.
See you at next years Xmas bash.
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Hey Rjay259,
Thanks mate, though I must confess that I wasn't really demonstrating any patience! Out of all the bases in England, only NCL is further away from Surrey than my current base at LBA. So if I get any other base...at least I will be in a better position, and with the realistic prospect of getting to LGW within 18 months let's say!
Looks like I'm getting the top item on my Christmas list this year after all....
Cheers,
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Thanks mate, though I must confess that I wasn't really demonstrating any patience! Out of all the bases in England, only NCL is further away from Surrey than my current base at LBA. So if I get any other base...at least I will be in a better position, and with the realistic prospect of getting to LGW within 18 months let's say!
Looks like I'm getting the top item on my Christmas list this year after all....
Cheers,
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Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy:
I received the call today, starting the 20th march as well.
Things come when you do not think they are going to come, hehehehe.
Regards to all of you.
I received the call today, starting the 20th march as well.
Things come when you do not think they are going to come, hehehehe.
Regards to all of you.