Applying to CTC Wings from Canada

[Four-Six North]

Hi all,

I'm applying to CTC Wings from Canada, and I'm wondering what the best way to input my education, seeing as the whole thing is based on UK-standards, which I am unfamiliar with to begin with.

Basically I have a high school diploma, for which I did standard exams in major subjects graded as a %. I input each of these as an A-level, then put in the % grade I achieved.

However I also have a college diploma and a university degree. There were no standard exams for these. Should I just put my overall GPA for each? I'm thinking inputting a grade for all 30 courses I did in each may be overkill.

Any thoughts from those who have applied already on how to proceed?

Also, as I mentioned I'm applying from Canada. If I am accepted will CTC or the prospective employer sponsor an EU entry visa? If not, since my father was British, and I live in a Commonwealth country, I am eligible for right of abode and perhaps even citizenship. However the point is I am only Canadian at the moment, and I'm not sure how to interpret the "unrestricted right to live and work in the EU" thing. How will all this play in the selection process?

Thanks for any insight/advice you may be able to provide.

FSN

[Canada Goose]

46N 74W,

As your father is/was British I do believe you are eligible to gain a British passport and hence a ticket into not just the UK, but also the rest of the EU as well. I suggest you call the British High Commission in Ottawa and get the ball rolling. You will I'm sure need your fathers birth certificate etc. If you don't I'm sure they can advise how you migt be able to attain one (Sommerset House, London).

I think the fact you have a university degree will override all other education requirements that CTC or Employers stipluate.

Good Luck.

Cheers,
CG

[Four-Six North]

Thanks for the input! Here's the problem (knowing full well this isn't the specialty of these forums):

My father (along with my grandfather and grandmother) gave up his British Citizenship when they became Canadians. I was born a Canadian. I'm not sure what British Nationality Law says about this in terms of me obtaining citizenship. Any ideas? I've requested clarification from the High Commission in Ottawa twice but they have never replied. It seems my only option is to actually apply for a passport and see if I'm accepted, but I'm worried that entails losing my passport fee if the whole thing falls through.

Does anyone have experience or knowledge of these types of circumstances when applying for UK citizenship?

[doo]

My wifes father was born in the UK in WW1, moved to Canada at a young age and fought in WW2 as a Canadian, obtained citizenship and all, my wife born in YYZ, was still elligable for dual citizenship based upon her fathers UK birth. We went to the British Consulate in YYZ for all the passport & immigration stuff. If Ottawa don't reply try the YYZ office, you may be able to get the answers you want on the phone.

[Canada Goose]

Are you sure that your father gave up his British Citizenship?. Both the UK and Canada allow dual citizenship, unlike some other countries, e.g. US, Australia, India to name a few. The fact that your father became a Canadian does not automatically mean he loses his British citizenship. I know, cos I am a dual of both Canada and the UK ! The only other possibilities are that they didn't allow dual citizenship back when applied, or, for some other reason he felt compelled to renounce his British citizenship !!

CG.

[Four-Six North]

CG: Not even my grandparents remember if they were forced to give up their UK citizenship (though that seems to be most likely to them) or whether they merely let their passports expire. My father has no clue since he was a youngin' at the time.

doo: But was your wife's father a UK citizen at the time of her birth (or dual citizen)? That could make the difference.

In any case, I just happen to be in YYZ at the moment, and rather happily only 2 blocks away from the Consulate, so I'm going to take a walk after lunch and see what they say (and report back of course )

[Four-Six North]

Just got back from the consulate... they weren't able to tell me much other than what I can get on the web ... basically told me to get in touch with passport services in Ottawa, which I've tried to do with no luck a few times.

Seems like it will all depend on whether or not my father actually gave up his citizenship or not, but in order to get them to spend any time looking into what exactly happened, and my eligibility, it looks like I'll have to front the non-refundable passport application fee and hope for the best....

[doo]

4-6, Born in Ealing, therefor a UK birth certificate, to obtain her Passport & hence dual citizenship She had to produce his birth certificate + parents marriage, and own birth certificate, she filled out the paperwork, paid the ££££ converted to $$$$$ and then passport arrived. Back then 1987 could do it all in YYZ. At that time she asked about his status, as he thought he no longer had UK citizenship, and she was told he was always a UK citizen as he was born there.

The link below gives some info
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/ind..._of_abode.html

I am here with the right of abode due my wifes citizenship, hope it helps.

p.s. what is CTC Wings , never heard of it?

[Flying Canuck]

I hold both a Canadian & British Passport. Eligible for the British through my Father (brithish by decent).

When I applied for my British passport, I needed:

1) a copy of my dad's birth certificate, proving he was born in the UK (it didn't matter, that he holds a Canadian Citizenship now & has actually been in Canada longer than he was in the UK). I had to get in touch with some records office in the UK as he didn't have his birth certificate, took a couple of weeks.

2) a copy of my full birth certificate, one that indicated both my parents names. the birth certificate I have is just the 'short' one, so I had to contact the Ontario government to get this

3) a copy of my parents wedding certificate, showing that they were married at the time of my birth. If they weren't married, I'd only be eligible for right of abode & not citizenship / passport. As my parents had divorved several years ago, I had to get this out of the UK too.

4) the actual passport application was pretty straightforward, once all the paperwork was gathered.

hope this helps.

[foghorn]

I had to get in touch with some records office in the UK as he didn't have his birth certificate, took a couple of weeks.

You need to contact the Registrar of Births, Marriages and Deaths for the area in which your father was born. This can be a little difficult to track down if your UK geography isn't that good, and is further complicated by the fact that it's done at a different level of local government in different areas of the UK (for instance in England it's done at City/District level in urban areas and County level in rural areas, I'm not sure about Wales, Scotland or NI).

Another thing that may or may not help is the fact that the Republic of Ireland was a part of the UK prior to 1922 and therefore descendants of people born there have as much of a claim to British citizenship as descendents of those born in NI/Mainland Britain.

[Four-Six North]

I think the crux of the problem is that I'm not sure if my father was British at the time of my birth, seeing as my grandfather doesn't remember if he ever wrote Liverpool in the 60s to give up the family's UK citizenship upon becoming Canadians.

But, seems to me like that would be something one would remember doing, and according to the lady at the consulate, a UK citizen has never been forced to give up their citizenship as a requirement of becoming Candian.

However it seems increasingly clear to me to me that the passport office has no desire to look into my father's citizenship status (or my eligibility) for free, so I'm guessing one day I'm going to have to bite the bullet and pay the passport application fee and hope for the best.

Thanks to you all for your insight and experiences.

(doo: more info on CTC Wings here )

[doo]

4-6, Bottom line is that if your Dad can produce a British birth certeficate then he is British, if not then you can also apply for right of abode through your grandfather( another layer fo forms-hence more £££) get used to it if you wish to come here the whole process costs££££,
Thanks for the link, I had just never heard of CTC, do you already hold a Canadian Licence?

[Canada Goose]

Small price to pay !

46N, I can understand your reluctance to 'waste' your cash, but surely it can't cost that much to have an applicaiton processed ? If the word 'aviation' or CAA appeared somewhere on the form I could understand !

But seriously, the risk of losing the cost of nominal fee v's being given an automatic right to come and live in the UK (as well as any of the other EU countries) I'd say it's a risk worth taking given the likelihood you'd be successful ! No ?

Then again you could always fly over here. Throw your Canadian passport away and claim asylum on entering ! You'd be well sorted then !! Free housing and free cash to go and spend on whatever you please !! Seems to have worked for quite a lot of people currently residing on our little island !! Grateful bunch some of them as well - even go to the effort to put on little firework displays for the locals !

Good luck anyways,

CG