The PPRuNe Fund discussion thread
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Mikey, dont rely on others to make you cheerful. If you are to be happy in life, never rely on anyone but yourself to make you happy.
Learn to accept that, and you will always be a Cheshire cat at heart.
Learn to accept that, and you will always be a Cheshire cat at heart.
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Mikey, if you're feeling sad, come and have lunch with me at the Old Mill tomorrow 
Will be up 't club from around 1130am.
Glad to see the fund looking so health IFR. Am of course willing and able to do my bit to help top it up at the next GatBash
Will be up 't club from around 1130am.Glad to see the fund looking so health IFR. Am of course willing and able to do my bit to help top it up at the next GatBash
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Why does everyone think I'm not happy? It's just that the recruitment hasn't been exactly healthy recently, it's nice to hear of people helping others out in this way!
Great to hear you're all getting on so well, I'm sure it's one of those jobs where you don't mind working your ass off!
It's just that the recruitment hasn't been exactly healthy recently, it's nice to hear of people helping others out in this way!Great to hear you're all getting on so well, I'm sure it's one of those jobs where you don't mind working your ass off!
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The PPRuNE fund hits the spot!
With a few payments yet to arrive for the fund. I am pleased to tell you that it has almost reached £10,000. One payment I have not yet received may well take it there.
We took £940 clear at the GatBash from the auction and raffle. This after the fund paid for the cadet awards and lunch for the seminar attendees.
Altogether a very satisfying result.
This year will see the fund seeking charity status, which is in hand.
A big pat on the back for the supporters, some of whom still make regular monthly payments to the fund. Great stuff!
EDIT: I should, of course, have mentioned that the Astraeus cadets under the last sentence above, each make a monthly contribution to the Fund of £100. This was their commitment to the fund when they were selected. Astraeus on the other hand made a tremendous commitment to them, and that should not go unmentioned.
We took £940 clear at the GatBash from the auction and raffle. This after the fund paid for the cadet awards and lunch for the seminar attendees.
Altogether a very satisfying result.
This year will see the fund seeking charity status, which is in hand.
A big pat on the back for the supporters, some of whom still make regular monthly payments to the fund. Great stuff!
EDIT: I should, of course, have mentioned that the Astraeus cadets under the last sentence above, each make a monthly contribution to the Fund of £100. This was their commitment to the fund when they were selected. Astraeus on the other hand made a tremendous commitment to them, and that should not go unmentioned.
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Very impressive Inf'in!!
Well done on putting this together and I am sure many many people will benefit from all your hard work setting up and maintaining the PPRuNe Fund. Thank you.
Well done on putting this together and I am sure many many people will benefit from all your hard work setting up and maintaining the PPRuNe Fund. Thank you.
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Nice one IFR, it's getting there.
Speaking as one of those who has benefited from the pprune fund, and is of course now making regular contributions to it, thanks and well done!!
Speaking as one of those who has benefited from the pprune fund, and is of course now making regular contributions to it, thanks and well done!!
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Thanks for all the hard work, Don. Good news on the charitable status - will the tax breaks of being a registered charity make a difference? I understand that the revenue refunds basic rate income tax on contributions?
cheers!
foggy.
cheers!
foggy.
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Just a thought . . .
Excellent news Don, and delighted to hear it. If I could make a small suggestion?
I know several other people who are well aware of Pprune, but have never heard of the Pprune Fund. Once explained to them, they agree it is an excellent idea, and could probably be persuaded to make a donation. But – and a few of them have said this – they’d be reluctant to contribute when they are unclear on who the money is going to / where it is being kept / what it is being used for.
Maybe it’s just an excuse, and you’ve certainly answered these questions in previous postings, but posts can sometimes get lost in the mists of time. Is it worth considering ways of raising the fund’s profile, so that more potential donors are made aware of what it is, and why it’s so worthwhile?
Charity status will certainly help, but what about some sort of banner on the home page, with a brief explanation of what the fund is, and where it stands at present? (A sort of ‘church roof fund’ type display, with an appropriate symbol and scale showing present funds against targeted).
With a membership of 50 odd thousand - plus who knows how many lurkers – there must be a lot more potential donors out there.
I know several other people who are well aware of Pprune, but have never heard of the Pprune Fund. Once explained to them, they agree it is an excellent idea, and could probably be persuaded to make a donation. But – and a few of them have said this – they’d be reluctant to contribute when they are unclear on who the money is going to / where it is being kept / what it is being used for.
Maybe it’s just an excuse, and you’ve certainly answered these questions in previous postings, but posts can sometimes get lost in the mists of time. Is it worth considering ways of raising the fund’s profile, so that more potential donors are made aware of what it is, and why it’s so worthwhile?
Charity status will certainly help, but what about some sort of banner on the home page, with a brief explanation of what the fund is, and where it stands at present? (A sort of ‘church roof fund’ type display, with an appropriate symbol and scale showing present funds against targeted).
With a membership of 50 odd thousand - plus who knows how many lurkers – there must be a lot more potential donors out there.
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G-SXTY a good and sensible post as usual.
Some are reluctamt to subscribe: Well that's true. Over the past two and half years there have been a total of 7 regular subscribers with the now and again contributions of certain wonderful people. One sturdy PPRuNer gave us £500 at the drop of a hat - right at the beginning. A doctor in Canada donated a £100 and so on. Whether we have 50,000 members or 500 it makes no difference to appeal to their generosity. It just does not happen I'm afraid. Indeed, I have learned from a lifetime of organising functions that there is always just a determined few who take these things seriously. But............that is the way it works and I am happy with that.
One constant trickle of funds comes from the sale of TSR2 prints. Thes are prints that were organised by a friend of Nearly Man, and who supplied the paper and printed them. Over a £1000 to date. But it was a VERY costly process which cost us nothing. A truly generous gesture. Nearly Man, of course, supplied his own original watercolour which was showered by the great Roland 'Bee' Beamont with superb compliments - as the Test pilot of TSR2.
So far the money has gone to the PPRuNe cadets for sim time, selection centre expenses and several people's expenses. An initial total of over £3800 was paid out. I got back £1100 from an associate company of Astraeus but I had to work at getting back to the £7000. When I started the fund it had nothing in it of course but built up from the sale or raffle of good stuff at each of the bashes, and the generosity of people who gave us fabulous prints to auction. Some items were donated by people who had them in their possession for years.
The charity status is the only way forward now but this will take time. Time is something I have and I also have one other who will assist me in taking it there - until the posts of other trustees is filled.
The main thrust of the fund is to assist wannabes on to the first step of the Commercial ladder. We have helped five and there will be others. Plans to do others things are afoot and will be announced at the right time. But don't expect great things too soon. It will not happen. In the meantime the fund will grow, so that we will be able to get worthy wannabes on their way.
My aim is to make this fund benefit those with motivation and determination - no-one else will be considered.
I stipulated at the start, that after 40 years in aviation I wanted to put something back. I have started that, and I will continue - with the invaluable help of some very nice people in PPRuNe.
One other point Dave. I have always kept people aware of the state of the fund but I don't think I want to have a church steeple, or worse a 'Blue Peter' type banner, showing how much is in at any given time. I can do without the kind of work that entails. But after each bash there will be a new figure. The current one must be a surprise and I like to idea of brightening up somebody's day!
FYI the funds are kept with the Royal Bank of Scotland who I manage to persuade to pay US a small interest but NOT to charge us one.
Some are reluctamt to subscribe: Well that's true. Over the past two and half years there have been a total of 7 regular subscribers with the now and again contributions of certain wonderful people. One sturdy PPRuNer gave us £500 at the drop of a hat - right at the beginning. A doctor in Canada donated a £100 and so on. Whether we have 50,000 members or 500 it makes no difference to appeal to their generosity. It just does not happen I'm afraid. Indeed, I have learned from a lifetime of organising functions that there is always just a determined few who take these things seriously. But............that is the way it works and I am happy with that.
One constant trickle of funds comes from the sale of TSR2 prints. Thes are prints that were organised by a friend of Nearly Man, and who supplied the paper and printed them. Over a £1000 to date. But it was a VERY costly process which cost us nothing. A truly generous gesture. Nearly Man, of course, supplied his own original watercolour which was showered by the great Roland 'Bee' Beamont with superb compliments - as the Test pilot of TSR2.
So far the money has gone to the PPRuNe cadets for sim time, selection centre expenses and several people's expenses. An initial total of over £3800 was paid out. I got back £1100 from an associate company of Astraeus but I had to work at getting back to the £7000. When I started the fund it had nothing in it of course but built up from the sale or raffle of good stuff at each of the bashes, and the generosity of people who gave us fabulous prints to auction. Some items were donated by people who had them in their possession for years.
The charity status is the only way forward now but this will take time. Time is something I have and I also have one other who will assist me in taking it there - until the posts of other trustees is filled.
The main thrust of the fund is to assist wannabes on to the first step of the Commercial ladder. We have helped five and there will be others. Plans to do others things are afoot and will be announced at the right time. But don't expect great things too soon. It will not happen. In the meantime the fund will grow, so that we will be able to get worthy wannabes on their way.
My aim is to make this fund benefit those with motivation and determination - no-one else will be considered.
I stipulated at the start, that after 40 years in aviation I wanted to put something back. I have started that, and I will continue - with the invaluable help of some very nice people in PPRuNe.
One other point Dave. I have always kept people aware of the state of the fund but I don't think I want to have a church steeple, or worse a 'Blue Peter' type banner, showing how much is in at any given time. I can do without the kind of work that entails. But after each bash there will be a new figure. The current one must be a surprise and I like to idea of brightening up somebody's day!
FYI the funds are kept with the Royal Bank of Scotland who I manage to persuade to pay US a small interest but NOT to charge us one.