Exodus at FlyBE
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Just after new year, total number of resignations were 29. I'm sure its still climbing slowly. End of Jan will be interesting to watch, as resignations have to be in b4 the end of month to make a 3 month calendar notice period.
People moving onto Jet2, Monarch, First Choice, GB, Easyjet
I'm sure there are a couple of more out there that I don't know of.
People moving onto Jet2, Monarch, First Choice, GB, Easyjet
I'm sure there are a couple of more out there that I don't know of.
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Not at all.
We have people from all walks of life.
True that most new starters are young and just out of flying school. This is because to make life easier Flybe will approach the school and ask them to submit cv's from suitably qualified people.
It seems that Flybe are currently doing the rounds at Cranfield and Oxford. I guess this is to save time.
Things change very fast in the world of aviation. I remember just before finishing my full time training, I attended a "co-pilot" seminar in a London hotel. A group of us pounced on the rep from Flybe, only to be told that they required a minimum of 250hrs. Two months later I'm being interviewed in Exeter with the bog standard 195hrs in my log book.
Give Flybe a polite call, and if you are available at short notice for an interview, tell them that. You have nothing to lose
Good luck guys
We have people from all walks of life.
True that most new starters are young and just out of flying school. This is because to make life easier Flybe will approach the school and ask them to submit cv's from suitably qualified people.
It seems that Flybe are currently doing the rounds at Cranfield and Oxford. I guess this is to save time.
Things change very fast in the world of aviation. I remember just before finishing my full time training, I attended a "co-pilot" seminar in a London hotel. A group of us pounced on the rep from Flybe, only to be told that they required a minimum of 250hrs. Two months later I'm being interviewed in Exeter with the bog standard 195hrs in my log book.
Give Flybe a polite call, and if you are available at short notice for an interview, tell them that. You have nothing to lose
Good luck guys
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Good airline to start at, great guys on board to work with, but remember, when signing on the dotted you signing away ur rights to stable or social life.....
As quoted by Exeter .. should work in a bank if you want stability!
As quoted by Exeter .. should work in a bank if you want stability!
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Now 35 resignations allegedly and climbing, more waiting in the wings
( pun intended)
Company currently asking crews if they would like to sell back any unwanted Leave days due "Exceptional Roster Turbulence."
Apparently they need approx 90 pilots to meet the Schedules plus the planned expansion, by July.
Looks like a good time for newbys who have been waiting a while for their first break.
Good luck to all who enter. You will work ure bollox off but it will be an excellent apprenticeship.
MOR,
Every cloud has a silver or indeed a Gold lining.
( pun intended)
Company currently asking crews if they would like to sell back any unwanted Leave days due "Exceptional Roster Turbulence."
Apparently they need approx 90 pilots to meet the Schedules plus the planned expansion, by July.
Looks like a good time for newbys who have been waiting a while for their first break.
Good luck to all who enter. You will work ure bollox off but it will be an excellent apprenticeship.
MOR,
Every cloud has a silver or indeed a Gold lining.
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ummm, yes. Whilst they've been interviewing quite a bit recently, and have two courses a month to fill, they can't get the sim slots and can't release the trainers because they're needed to fly the line.....
all a bit of a mess really!
all a bit of a mess really!
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I presume all newhires will go to the Dash 8-400. Seems like a great aircraft to get experience on. How are newhires adapting to the Q400 with so few hours? Do they like the Q400?
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Oh dear. Not what I wanted to hear. Just been offered a sim check with them, which I was slightly dreading, and now I'm having cold sweats!
Is it really that bad? I have an idea what to expect, but just how tough do the guys make it for you above and beyond the procedural stuff?
Is it really that bad? I have an idea what to expect, but just how tough do the guys make it for you above and beyond the procedural stuff?
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Unless your sim check is in Stokholm or toronto which i doubt as sim slots on the Q400 are at at premium then your check ride will not be on the Q400!!!!, more likly it will be in Woodford,manchester in the BAe146 sim which is like a big cessna!!.
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Yeah MC, don't stress! You will be doing your sim check on the 146. Nothing difficult, most likely a departure, some GH, and an ILS.
In the 'good old days' new starters used to do their initial on the 200/300. Much easier to fly (it all goes so much slower!), and then convert on to the 400 as and when.
New starters have been joining straight onto the 400 for almost a year now, and there don't seem to have been many problems with it.
Good Luck
In the 'good old days' new starters used to do their initial on the 200/300. Much easier to fly (it all goes so much slower!), and then convert on to the 400 as and when.
New starters have been joining straight onto the 400 for almost a year now, and there don't seem to have been many problems with it.
Good Luck
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Ah, maybe. But we all know that would be because of certain examiners......not the actual handling of the a/c which is difficult!!
And BPM... good job they've got you to fly it then. Heaven knows how the fleet coped without your skills!
And BPM... good job they've got you to fly it then. Heaven knows how the fleet coped without your skills!
Er 82 (and others),
Lets put this into perspective for all the wannabees reading this who are getting worried about it all.
Most of the problems in the sim of late have been failures in reccurent training, mainly due to the introduction of new SOPs which they hadn't used before. The two Captains who failed were given extra training and passed the second time, the F/O was also given extra training but unfortunately failed the second time for a totally different reason. He has been given further additional training including observing a full initial course prior to more training and another test. Admittedly there may be others but I haven't heard about them.
Both of the examiners concerned are very experienced TREs and the failures were totally justified. For the benefit of those of you hoping to work for flybe I have spoken to pilots who had their initial LSTs with both of these guys, who reported that they couldn't fault the way the tests were conducted - very professional and relaxed and about as stress free as it can ever be.
Just worry about the interview and the sim check (which is on the 146 sim at woodford and totally out of the control of the dash 8 trainers - as has been mentioned Q400 sim slots are like hens teeth at the moment so you won't do an assesment on it). Having got through the selection, from personal experience I know that the dash 8 training department will do it's upmost to pass you - you only have to talk to the TREs and TRIs in the hotel bar in Stockholm to realise that they are there to pass people, with extra sim sessions being rostered if required - and the same applies to line training once you finish the sim.
Lets put this into perspective for all the wannabees reading this who are getting worried about it all.
Most of the problems in the sim of late have been failures in reccurent training, mainly due to the introduction of new SOPs which they hadn't used before. The two Captains who failed were given extra training and passed the second time, the F/O was also given extra training but unfortunately failed the second time for a totally different reason. He has been given further additional training including observing a full initial course prior to more training and another test. Admittedly there may be others but I haven't heard about them.
Both of the examiners concerned are very experienced TREs and the failures were totally justified. For the benefit of those of you hoping to work for flybe I have spoken to pilots who had their initial LSTs with both of these guys, who reported that they couldn't fault the way the tests were conducted - very professional and relaxed and about as stress free as it can ever be.
Just worry about the interview and the sim check (which is on the 146 sim at woodford and totally out of the control of the dash 8 trainers - as has been mentioned Q400 sim slots are like hens teeth at the moment so you won't do an assesment on it). Having got through the selection, from personal experience I know that the dash 8 training department will do it's upmost to pass you - you only have to talk to the TREs and TRIs in the hotel bar in Stockholm to realise that they are there to pass people, with extra sim sessions being rostered if required - and the same applies to line training once you finish the sim.
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Applied to Flybe August last year and updated CV regularily but no call yet.
With a full ATPL 3000 TT 2000 me its difficult to understand why not even a interview. Any other relitivley experience drivers feeling the same frustration
Anyone know what they are looking for?
With a full ATPL 3000 TT 2000 me its difficult to understand why not even a interview. Any other relitivley experience drivers feeling the same frustration
Anyone know what they are looking for?