what can i do with 225hrs
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what can i do with 225hrs
hey all
I am looking at joining the OAT course that trains you over 65 weeks to get the integrated ATP(CPL-IR-MCC) frozen ATPL with 225 hours, i have looked around for jobs that would accept you with this amount of hours and have not found anything yet.
I do not mind what job it gets for now, as long as once i finish the course there is an are of aviation that i can enter for a first job at any level flying.
So far i all i have found is jobs offering FO positions for people with 500 hours and after 55,000 for the training i am not too keen on the prospect of thousands more on the hour building (though inevitably this may be necessary!)
Are there any aspects of flying e.g. Air Taxi or medi vac that accepts you with less hours overall.
Any information provided will be gratefully received!!!
Thank you all
Pearcy
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I am looking at joining the OAT course that trains you over 65 weeks to get the integrated ATP(CPL-IR-MCC) frozen ATPL with 225 hours, i have looked around for jobs that would accept you with this amount of hours and have not found anything yet.
I do not mind what job it gets for now, as long as once i finish the course there is an are of aviation that i can enter for a first job at any level flying.
So far i all i have found is jobs offering FO positions for people with 500 hours and after 55,000 for the training i am not too keen on the prospect of thousands more on the hour building (though inevitably this may be necessary!)
Are there any aspects of flying e.g. Air Taxi or medi vac that accepts you with less hours overall.
Any information provided will be gratefully received!!!
Thank you all
Pearcy
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You could do what most have done over the last 40-50 years and start with an instructing job. You will mature your understanding of flying and gain alot personally in my experience.
Sure it's crap money but at least it's crap money for flying an aircraft as opposed to doing nothing other than get out of currency etc.
You don't come out of med school and go straight into brain surgery and you should expect early on to get the same response.
Would i have taken a job in a shiny jet at 225 hours you bet, and good luck if you get it. It still is a thrill to get paid to fly however small the aircraft and i still remember climbing into a PA38 thinking"XXXX me i'm being paid to fly one of these as opposed to shelling out myself" Great feeling
Regards tonker
Sure it's crap money but at least it's crap money for flying an aircraft as opposed to doing nothing other than get out of currency etc.
You don't come out of med school and go straight into brain surgery and you should expect early on to get the same response.
Would i have taken a job in a shiny jet at 225 hours you bet, and good luck if you get it. It still is a thrill to get paid to fly however small the aircraft and i still remember climbing into a PA38 thinking"XXXX me i'm being paid to fly one of these as opposed to shelling out myself" Great feeling
Regards tonker
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i agree, an instructing job is definately the way forward to build hours...however...i would just like to point out the way you mentioned that you did not want to shell out more money once finished....from reading your post i got the impression that you thought that you would walk into a job with 225 hours...doesnt happen very often im afraid.....with regards to air taxi work, under regulations you need to have a min. of 700hrs to do single pilot IFR air taxi work, which is what you would be looking for.....so if i were you, i would consider the instructor route......either way.....you need to spend money to get anywhere in this industry....
(ps: Please, to all who read this, no bitchy comments for the reply, i am only reading his/hers post as i see it.....i hope that we all, as pilots, can be helpful and offer advice....thank you)
(ps: Please, to all who read this, no bitchy comments for the reply, i am only reading his/hers post as i see it.....i hope that we all, as pilots, can be helpful and offer advice....thank you)
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Can't help but agree with whats already been said......they say the first 1000hrs is the toughest!......get an instructors rating under your belt...meet a few people in the industry along the way..and remember that its much easier to land that job..when you've already got a job. Keep the faith, keep plugging away..and you'll get there. Most of us on here got on in this industry by doing just that.
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With 202hrs, I flew an A320 (and doubled my experience in 2months on the line with a major)! Theres plenty out there at the moment, just need to get networking and not sending CV's out blind. The good times are back, but, as you say, the first 1000hrs are the hardest.
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People bang on about doing an instructors rating, and how that's the way to do it etc.... but if you take a quick look on the net you'll find they are not cheap too, about £5000, and that's really only to PPL level. That won't cover you for multi-engine and instrument, training. Also if you come out of an integrated course, you may just have 50 hours PIC, and more SPIC. However correct me if I am wrong, but you need 100 PIC for a FI rating, thus more money for hour building. All together an expensive operation and that only covers you to PPL level.
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In the last 6 months I have known people get the following jobs after just completing an integrated course:-
GB Airways A320
BACX Dash 8
BMI Regional EMB-135
Ryanair 737
Eastern Jetstream 31
GAMA Learjet
Club 328Jet
plus a couple in Asia.
Okay, they were very lucky! Airline jobs DO exist for very low hours pilots - BUT DON'T COUNT ON IT WHEN YOU DECIDE TO SPEND ALL THAT MONEY!
GB Airways A320
BACX Dash 8
BMI Regional EMB-135
Ryanair 737
Eastern Jetstream 31
GAMA Learjet
Club 328Jet
plus a couple in Asia.
Okay, they were very lucky! Airline jobs DO exist for very low hours pilots - BUT DON'T COUNT ON IT WHEN YOU DECIDE TO SPEND ALL THAT MONEY!
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ahoj
Im just completing my line training with a mojor low cost airline on the B737 ( BOBBY - BOing BaBY ) and its fantastic.
Lots of hard work, mistakes, highs and lows... but its all worth it.
I got the job with 300 hrs and hard work...
kep at it
Bail out
Lots of hard work, mistakes, highs and lows... but its all worth it.
I got the job with 300 hrs and hard work...
kep at it
Bail out
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Are there any modular guys/gals who have got jobs with low hours pretty much as soon as they got their fATPL?
I know there are a lucky few who get jobs with low hours, but they seem to have always done an integrated course. Is there no hope for modular students of getting that first dream job with low hours?
I know there are a lucky few who get jobs with low hours, but they seem to have always done an integrated course. Is there no hope for modular students of getting that first dream job with low hours?
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Well there is always flipping burgers until you get lucky with a C.V.
But on a more serious note once you have your licence try and get a job any job which brings you closer to airline crew.
Keep current and if you don't get lucky within 12 Months consider instructing, make as many contacts as possible.
Regards DB
But on a more serious note once you have your licence try and get a job any job which brings you closer to airline crew.
Keep current and if you don't get lucky within 12 Months consider instructing, make as many contacts as possible.
Regards DB
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A friend of mine - low hours (-250ish) flying happily round in a crash 8 - he was modular but had the 'employability' at the end of the day. Just because you're integrated doen't mean you are better qualified. If you suck as a person then you still wont get in - just like any other job interview.
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Reply to spaceman1000 ------->
I completely agree. Unfortunately some brats spending dads money will allways be keen to shell out the equivalent to my life savings on a rating. It really sucks, but if everybody would refuse to do this, we would all be home safe!
My schools quality manager once said: Your chances of succeding in the aviation buissness is directly proportional to the amount of money you're willing to spend.
This makes me want to weep!
Lets all refuse to pay!
/lns
I completely agree. Unfortunately some brats spending dads money will allways be keen to shell out the equivalent to my life savings on a rating. It really sucks, but if everybody would refuse to do this, we would all be home safe!
My schools quality manager once said: Your chances of succeding in the aviation buissness is directly proportional to the amount of money you're willing to spend.
This makes me want to weep!
Lets all refuse to pay!
/lns
