ryan air looking for pilots?
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ryan air looking for pilots?
hi guys.
I've heard some rumors about ryan air looking for unexperienced pilots. Is there any open session with them?
Has anyone heard anything?
I've heard some rumors about ryan air looking for unexperienced pilots. Is there any open session with them?
Has anyone heard anything?
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Read these first:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=145618
and
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=137992
and
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=148124
Then give them a call, after you have booked the taxi to the nearest asylum
FF
Read these first:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=145618
and
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=137992
and
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=148124
Then give them a call, after you have booked the taxi to the nearest asylum
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I did an interview for them in august...
but no recruiting of unexperienced pilots untill februari 2005...(that was the first thing they said to me when I entered the interview)
but no recruiting of unexperienced pilots untill februari 2005...(that was the first thing they said to me when I entered the interview)
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It maybe a bad thing, but I can understand those "fools". Ryanair is far from the ideal company to work for. However it can be used as a stepping stone in a person's carreer. You work your ass off for some time. It's ****ty, but after a while when they get their jet hours, it enhances their chances to get hired by a respectable airline. Especially nowadays when it can be hard to find a jet job as a lowtimer. If you're a lowtimer and you have the choice to stay unemployed for some time, or to cut the bs and get those valuable hours, the choice is easily made. Don't complain, fly your ass off, and get the hell out of there. It mind sound selfish, but it's a hard world. In the end you also have to think about yourself, and your future.
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ryanair called me directly
and finding a job on a 737-800 with only 250 hrs isn't that easy...And honestly I would love to work for ryanair! So what I'm being threated like ****, I fly a lot of hours on a fantastic airplane, and after 2 years I earn a lot of money... So what I have to bring my own food and have to pay for my costume and license... What I want to do is to fly as much as possible! and please don't start to convince me about how they destroy the fantastic pilot world... I read that and it didn't convince me...
and finding a job on a 737-800 with only 250 hrs isn't that easy...And honestly I would love to work for ryanair! So what I'm being threated like ****, I fly a lot of hours on a fantastic airplane, and after 2 years I earn a lot of money... So what I have to bring my own food and have to pay for my costume and license... What I want to do is to fly as much as possible! and please don't start to convince me about how they destroy the fantastic pilot world... I read that and it didn't convince me...
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and please don't start to convince me about how they destroy the fantastic pilot world
it can be used as a stepping stone in a person's carreer. You work your ass off for some time. It's ****ty, but after a while when they get their jet hours, it enhances their chances to get hired by a respectable airline.
Try thinking outside the box, you may be surprised at the reality. MOL just loves all those pilots who come for a few years and then leave..............
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it can be used as a stepping stone in a person's carreer. You work your ass off for some time. It's ****ty, but after a while when they get their jet hours, it enhances their chances to get hired by a respectable airline.
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The problem with this statement is that all the time an individual tries to employ this tactic they are dragging the 'respectable' airlines terms and conditions down as the 'respectable' airlines try to compete and win back market share, introducing new lower starting wages and closing pension schemes etc. Be careful that you don't end up moving into an airline that you 'perceived' to be better, but in reality only offers better industrial relations and not the same money! It's a downward spiral all the time the current practices go on, not just for Ryanair pilots, but for all pilots in the UK. That's why I support their bid to get recognition and to hopefully improve their lot.
Try thinking outside the box, you may be surprised at the reality. MOL just loves all those pilots who come for a few years and then leave..............
Pilot Pete, I said that I can understand why people go for Ryanair. I didn't say that it's the right thing to do. I was looking through the eyes of a wannebee. I can understand that if you're desperate, one takes a chance at Ryanair.
Ciao, Lil' P
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it can be used as a stepping stone in a person's carreer. You work your ass off for some time. It's ****ty, but after a while when they get their jet hours, it enhances their chances to get hired by a respectable airline.
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The problem with this statement is that all the time an individual tries to employ this tactic they are dragging the 'respectable' airlines terms and conditions down as the 'respectable' airlines try to compete and win back market share, introducing new lower starting wages and closing pension schemes etc. Be careful that you don't end up moving into an airline that you 'perceived' to be better, but in reality only offers better industrial relations and not the same money! It's a downward spiral all the time the current practices go on, not just for Ryanair pilots, but for all pilots in the UK. That's why I support their bid to get recognition and to hopefully improve their lot.
Try thinking outside the box, you may be surprised at the reality. MOL just loves all those pilots who come for a few years and then leave..............
Pilot Pete, I said that I can understand why people go for Ryanair. I didn't say that it's the right thing to do. I was looking through the eyes of a wannebee. I can understand that if you're desperate, one takes a chance at Ryanair.
Ciao, Lil' P
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You really don't get it do you? Let's examine your principles (or lack thereof):
"So what I'm being threated like ****"
Do you really suffer from such low exteem and lack of self-confidence? Then I would suggest you are unfit to fly an airliner.
"after 2 years I earn a lot of money"
You won't. And with your attitude and that of others, FR don't have to.
"So what I have to bring my own food and have to pay for my costume and license..."
Guess what buddy, the existing pilots in FR do care very much about things like this. Hence the union. Read the FR threads. And you will care also very much about these things when the novelty wears off (this takes about 6 months).
"please don't start to convince me about how they destroy the fantastic pilot world... I read that and it didn't convince me..."
Maybe try talking to some FR pilots then. Or maybe you're actually management.
L'il Pilot:
You say "If you're a lowtimer and you have the choice to stay unemployed for some time, or to cut the bs and get those valuable hours, the choice is easily made."
Well no, ever hear of instructing and getting paid to gain experience? Rather than the zero sum game you want to play (zero to you, numbers with lots of zeroes for O'Leary).
I could say plenty more but Pilot Pete has put it very well.
When the hell will these fools realise that there will be no respectable airlines due to their stupidity and lack of foresight??
You really don't get it do you? Let's examine your principles (or lack thereof):
"So what I'm being threated like ****"
Do you really suffer from such low exteem and lack of self-confidence? Then I would suggest you are unfit to fly an airliner.
"after 2 years I earn a lot of money"
You won't. And with your attitude and that of others, FR don't have to.
"So what I have to bring my own food and have to pay for my costume and license..."
Guess what buddy, the existing pilots in FR do care very much about things like this. Hence the union. Read the FR threads. And you will care also very much about these things when the novelty wears off (this takes about 6 months).
"please don't start to convince me about how they destroy the fantastic pilot world... I read that and it didn't convince me..."
Maybe try talking to some FR pilots then. Or maybe you're actually management.
L'il Pilot:
You say "If you're a lowtimer and you have the choice to stay unemployed for some time, or to cut the bs and get those valuable hours, the choice is easily made."
Well no, ever hear of instructing and getting paid to gain experience? Rather than the zero sum game you want to play (zero to you, numbers with lots of zeroes for O'Leary).
I could say plenty more but Pilot Pete has put it very well.
When the hell will these fools realise that there will be no respectable airlines due to their stupidity and lack of foresight??
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Ryanair will continue operating as it does and getting away with it until they have lost two airframes. If that ever happens they will go out of business. Is this the way we should be challenging our terms and conditions and the Ryanair business model?
You can cut corners and pile em high/sell em cheap in some businesses. You cannot do it in a safety critical business.
You can cut corners and pile em high/sell em cheap in some businesses. You cannot do it in a safety critical business.
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Understandably there are a number of reasons to get down on Ryanair and some of their practices, however I still can’t seem to figure why people on Pprune are continually getting down on newbies investigating Ryanair as a possible route to getting their foot in the door.
Sure there are other options as mentioned ie. Instructing, bush flying, etc but if one has/had the means to pay for a type and line training with the likes of Ryanair, Air Asia and whoever else offer a similar scheme, then why wouldn’t they? The only reason I can see against following this route is to save the feelings of those particular pilots who have the attitude that those (as they put it) are devaluing the industry. I am no expert on all the ins and outs but what I do know, and easily applies to any job, if you have the opportunity then take it. If I were in the position of looking for a first job, I certainly wouldn’t say no to an opportunity for fear of upsetting others or “devaluing” the industry. It seems like it’s just whining and winging on here. Get a grip!
And… with regards to Ryanair, I know a few pilots flying for them who thoroughly enjoy their job, have no desire to go anywhere else, are making exceptionally good money and have great job satisfaction. So, before you rant on about O’Leary, paying for a job and the inadequate practices about Ryanair, why don’t you think about expressing your opinions as just that – opinions rather than as fact as you so preach.
Good luck to those starting out… take the opportunity that you feel is the best but do the research.
yyzdub
Sure there are other options as mentioned ie. Instructing, bush flying, etc but if one has/had the means to pay for a type and line training with the likes of Ryanair, Air Asia and whoever else offer a similar scheme, then why wouldn’t they? The only reason I can see against following this route is to save the feelings of those particular pilots who have the attitude that those (as they put it) are devaluing the industry. I am no expert on all the ins and outs but what I do know, and easily applies to any job, if you have the opportunity then take it. If I were in the position of looking for a first job, I certainly wouldn’t say no to an opportunity for fear of upsetting others or “devaluing” the industry. It seems like it’s just whining and winging on here. Get a grip!
And… with regards to Ryanair, I know a few pilots flying for them who thoroughly enjoy their job, have no desire to go anywhere else, are making exceptionally good money and have great job satisfaction. So, before you rant on about O’Leary, paying for a job and the inadequate practices about Ryanair, why don’t you think about expressing your opinions as just that – opinions rather than as fact as you so preach.
Good luck to those starting out… take the opportunity that you feel is the best but do the research.
yyzdub
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thanks yyzdub!
btw: I just wanted to reply on the question if ryanair was searching lowtimers...
and I askes you guys, don't try to convince me!... There are lot of other threads about ryanair...I read them, and I know a lot about them... I just wanted to answer the question, not some kind of endless discussion about ryanair,
And as yyzdub said, I also know a lot of ryanair pilots who are perfectly happy about their job...!
Maxiumus:
you really don't get it do you? I do get it, I want to fly...not sit at home reading these forums....
btw: I just wanted to reply on the question if ryanair was searching lowtimers...
and I askes you guys, don't try to convince me!... There are lot of other threads about ryanair...I read them, and I know a lot about them... I just wanted to answer the question, not some kind of endless discussion about ryanair,
And as yyzdub said, I also know a lot of ryanair pilots who are perfectly happy about their job...!
Maxiumus:
you really don't get it do you? I do get it, I want to fly...not sit at home reading these forums....
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Mudvayne, if you've read the ryan threads and still fancy taking it up the poo shoot, be my guest your clearly bonkers. Just don't come crying when your sick of being treated like sh*t. All of us want jobs but some of us have drawn a line in the sand and feel we can do better. I don't believe absolutely everything I read on these forums but there's clearly something very wrong with Ryanair and its managements attitude towards pilots.
No matter what the T & C's there's always someone willing to stoop. STOP IT! It's counter productive.
Merlin.
No matter what the T & C's there's always someone willing to stoop. STOP IT! It's counter productive.
Merlin.