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Old 20th Oct 2006, 17:54
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costs...

Exactly how many costs do you incur during the scheme?

By this I mean things that are not added onto a bond/lone, but actual things you have to fork out for yourself.

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Old 21st Oct 2006, 10:02
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You only have to pay for your food and drink. Also you are given a car and a minibus between a few of you in NZ and you have to pay for its petrol. You will also have to pay for a Class 1 medical if you don't have one.

We were advised that we might need 6 -8K a year for living expenses and that 6K might be a bit spartan.
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Old 21st Oct 2006, 10:18
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fax machines?!? application form part 0.1 is devising somewhere to find a fax machine!

extra costs? travel to all three stages, phonecalls and postage while you do all the forms, transport to the airport when you go, stopover in singapore, medical insurance, travel insurance, loss of earnings, 00's worth it must be.

when you're there don't kid yourself - it will add up.

apparently if you spend any more time studying after A-Levels in a lifetime you'll also be down on your basic pension contributions (geared from when the government thinks you should start work) and have to make up the shortfall over the course...another expense then.
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Old 21st Oct 2006, 10:23
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Hello

Im probably going to be stopping the night of the 7th Nov in the dale farm house B&B, anyone else going to be stopping there?

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Old 21st Oct 2006, 15:55
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I tried the CTC selection around 3-4 years ago but failed at stage 2. I would really like to give it another shot but i never did recive that email inviting me to back for re-assesmnt. I have just logged in an all my details are still there and i updated everything however i couldnt re-send it. I was thinking of emailing them to ask if i could re-apply but after reading the FAQ's its says that if you dont get the email inviting you back its tough #### basically. Has anyone had any success sending them an email asking to re-apply seen as it was years ago or is it a hard and fast rule that if you dont through first time dont bother again? (before any asks i tried the search, but my eyes started glazing over as there are so many pages )
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Old 21st Oct 2006, 23:24
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Just email them. What's the worst that could happen?
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Old 22nd Oct 2006, 00:57
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I failed at stage 1 about 4 years ago and was in the same position as you. I emailed them to ask to be allowed to reapply, and four months later i was out here in New Zealand! Go for it!
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Old 22nd Oct 2006, 06:48
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Originally Posted by Tiger_ Moth View Post
You only have to pay for your food and drink. Also you are given a car and a minibus between a few of you in NZ and you have to pay for its petrol. You will also have to pay for a Class 1 medical if you don't have one.
We were advised that we might need 6 -8K a year for living expenses and that 6K might be a bit spartan.

Where does this 6-8000 come from? Just wondering if the money is apportioned from the loan taken out at the beginning of the course?

rgds

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Old 22nd Oct 2006, 08:34
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Living expenses

From the FAQs on the CTC website:

"How can I pay for my living expenses?
If necessary, the bank will be prepared (subject to applicant suitability) to loan money for living expenses during training, up to approximately 5,000 per year."


Don't forget you'll need to pay for the foundation course on top.
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Old 22nd Oct 2006, 16:10
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Originally Posted by NickS View Post
From the FAQs on the CTC website:

"How can I pay for my living expenses?
If necessary, the bank will be prepared (subject to applicant suitability) to loan money for living expenses during training, up to approximately 5,000 per year."


Don't forget you'll need to pay for the foundation course on top.

Ok I see, thanks for pointing that out. Its been one of those questions which hadn't really occurred to me until now. If you have previous experience they will refund the balance of the foundation course that you have already completed.
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Old 22nd Oct 2006, 17:09
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Originally Posted by concordski View Post
fax machines?!? application form part 0.1 is devising somewhere to find a fax machine!
Well, I found a fax machine... tried AGAIN on Friday but got the 'engaged' caption on again all day.
Have emailed using the address and online form... but no response (since Weds and Fri).
Is there no snail mail address? The phone number is a SOTON one.
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Old 22nd Oct 2006, 19:05
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Damm fax machine still engaged...
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Old 22nd Oct 2006, 19:11
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Lasts a nerve wracking two hours or so!! Enjoy!
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Old 22nd Oct 2006, 20:46
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Exclamation Degree or no degree?

Hi everyone,
I am currently studying my A-levels in Statistical maths, Physics and French. I have 9 GCSE's at A*-C. I have come to the point where I need to make the decision whether to go to uni to study what probably would be French. Providing I get all B's in my A-levels (which I am on course to do) will a degree in French really be an advantage when applying to 'ctc wings'. I feel that doing a degree would just be a waste of time and money, and I would be much better off just applying to ctc without a degree but good A-levels.
Should I go on and do a degree, or just apply straight away once I have completed my A-levels. Some help please!
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Old 22nd Oct 2006, 23:29
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For people who have a fair amount of flying experience and who therefore only need the short foundation course the deal is quite helpful.

This is because everyone has to pay for the long foundation course regardless of experience. The hours not used are then refunded back to you at the end of the foundation course.

This means that those with lots of flying experience get most of the foundation course fees back and these can then be used to help with living expenses.
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Old 23rd Oct 2006, 14:33
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Fax back on!

Fax machine is apparently back up and running

With the foundation course, am I correct in thinking that it also encompasses aspects other than just getting a PPL? I already have a PPL at total time of around 300hrs now (Inc. 100+ SLMG and 100+ Military EFT and flying), I imagine if I *did* get selected (In the big hypothetical world!) I would do the short course, but was exactly does it involve?

Cheers in advance,

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Old 23rd Oct 2006, 15:29
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Flik,

As I understand it, for someone in your position the short course would probably involve little more than familiarisation with the plane you will be flying (Katanas or Alpha 160s) and a few navexes to get accustomed to the local area and procedures. This might only take 5- 10 hours so you would get the rest (Full course is 67 hours) refunded back.
You only use the hours they feel you need.
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Old 23rd Oct 2006, 23:49
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Originally Posted by man T2 View Post
Hi everyone,
I am currently studying my A-levels in Statistical maths, Physics and French. I have 9 GCSE's at A*-C. I have come to the point where I need to make the decision whether to go to uni to study what probably would be French. Providing I get all B's in my A-levels (which I am on course to do) will a degree in French really be an advantage when applying to 'ctc wings'. I feel that doing a degree would just be a waste of time and money, and I would be much better off just applying to ctc without a degree but good A-levels.
Should I go on and do a degree, or just apply straight away once I have completed my A-levels. Some help please!
I faced a similar problem.... in the end I applied to Uni (also to do French), and took a gap year. So applied to CTC during the gap year, while working to save money for uni.
i was lucky enough to be accepted by CTC so cancelled my uni place, and disappeared to Oz for a few months with my uni money! But my uni place was there as a safety net incase i didnt get CTC.
A word of warning though, if you're applying without flying experience, as was my case... then make sure you've got something up your sleeve to show that you've got what they're looking for.... motivation, commitment etc... which a degree could demonstrate. But they're are plenty of other ways of doing this.
Sometimes I wish Id have done the uni thing, but I forget about that once I get to 'the office'!

Best of luck
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Old 24th Oct 2006, 15:59
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Finally managed to fax off my 4 answers...
Next question - I take it that it's about 3 weeks before you hear anything post-receieving the answers?

Also, PILAPT, what sort of level are the SDT maths Q's? Are they generally easy numbers? And how bad is the long div? Overall, how do they compare to the miltary aptitude, and in comparison, does a pass at the military aptitude equate to the pass level required for CTC? Or is the standard for CTC lower/higher?

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Old 26th Oct 2006, 14:50
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Originally Posted by man T2 View Post
Hi everyone,
I am currently studying my A-levels in Statistical maths, Physics and French. I have 9 GCSE's at A*-C. I have come to the point where I need to make the decision whether to go to uni to study what probably would be French. Providing I get all B's in my A-levels (which I am on course to do) will a degree in French really be an advantage when applying to 'ctc wings'. I feel that doing a degree would just be a waste of time and money, and I would be much better off just applying to ctc without a degree but good A-levels.
Should I go on and do a degree, or just apply straight away once I have completed my A-levels. Some help please!
I think Spaceman18 has the right idea. Apply for a degree course and either go through with it or use it as a back-up plan. I decided to go and get a degree, towards the end of it I applied for CTC and got in, so two success stories for u, one with a degree, one without, but the point is both spaceman18 and I had a degree course in place. A word of advice though, I would advise u to at least get a good few months of degree course behind you, one of the guys who I did stage 3 with was just about to start a degree at that point, and he failed but was invited back, he was told to re-apply after he had done at least some of his degree, so its definately worth your while. Just my point of view, though its entirely up to you, and remember a degree is a degree, even if you do french it shows that you have the capability to undertake studies, which is 1 of the things they're looking for!

good luck!
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