girl friday

thanks NickS - that makes sense about the sponsorship, think i was worrying that there's a whole area of the application that i'm missing or something!!

as for the age thing, don't worry about worrying me - i'm good enough at doing that myself! i'm sure they wouldn't take applications from people in their late 20s if they couldn't get them jobs, it would just be nice to hear from someone who knows they definitely do.
anyone else out there know of any cadets approaching 30 with jobs lined up??

i'm off to take a closer look at cadetpilot.com (will focus less on the pictures of them all out on the lash this time, hehe)

Mooneyboy

Hi Pazu888

Got stage 4 ( for anyone else reading to avoid confusion this is regarding ATP not Cadet) left which is the last one. For us thats the MCC and JOT again essentially, either on 737 or Airbus A320 lasting roughly 3 weeks. Then hopefully as long as we are successful with that phase we should be picked by an airline then start the type rating. I think its quite full so we should be starting towards the end of this year.

I think wolfy was taking a break that day outside in the sun when we were having lunch!

All the best

Mooneyboy

mistri

Hi guys,

This forum is great and really helpful. I didn't know anything about it until my phase 2 assesment day when loads of the guys were talking about it!

Congratulations to everyone who has done so well so far.

I am going for my phase 3 tues next week and am a little nervous about it. I've read all the pages about the sort of questions that can be asked in the interview but what if they come out with something REALLY technical?? will they?? I've had like 15minutes flying experience! could anyone who's taken their phase 3 give me an example of a technical question?

this may sound silly but i went out and bought microsoft flight simulator 2004, which gives flying lessons and the theory behind it. it's quite good. i've learnt quite a lot.

one more thing, did anyone stay over at a b&b in dibden? i didnt receive the file of hotel phone numbers/addresses in the correct format from daphne and was hoping someone could recommend a place close by to dibden manor?

Cheers,

Mistri

mo90

mistri,

I made the trip down to dibden for the induction day around a year ago now and stayed at a B&B called Dale Farm Guest House, literally 5 minutes drive from the gates of the manor - if you need any more info i should be able to dig out an old e-mail!

As for the interview don't worry too much about the technical questions, there are plenty of cadets with little or no background in aviation and the interviews and sim check were adapted to suit the interviewee.
The interviewers were great and i'm sure it's been said before that it was very relaxed.

I was in the same position as yourself with 1 hour flying experience and no background in engineering - most of the interview was based on questions aimed at finding out about my personality and motives for applying. Have a good read through the website and perhaps those of the partner airlines, but unless things have changed massively don't expect to be examined on the number of cup holders in a 737(unless you wrote a dissertation on this at uni, in which case do worry about it!).

girl friday, don't worry about the age thing - getting on the course is a good indication from CTC that they think they can find you a job when you're trained. And yes there are people here older than yourself with airlines lined up! by the way...us?lash?never!

mo

Wing_Bound_Vortex

Yup don't worry about the age thing guys of 27/28/29 now driving round shiny orange and white tin tubes, and others that are only 21....
As for the sponsorship, well it doesn't really exist as such. You train with CTC, depositing around 60k with them for the cost of that training, they will find you an airline either before or during your training and then once you finish the type rating that money as a "bond" is transferred to the airline who then pay you a cadet salary. On top of that they pay 12k tax free a year back to the bank ( or to you if you just happened to have that much money knocking around ) to pay the training costs back.
The total of your cadet salary and the 12k tax free just "happens" to amount to a normal FO's salary
So you see it's not actually sponsorship at all, but the benefit is of course that that job offer is pretty much a solid bet, barring war, drought, famine, random acts of god, airline going bust etc etc ( you get my point! )
WBV

mistri

thanks mo,

that's settles my nerves a bit! wow i admire you guys in new zealand! how i would luv to be in that position right now!!!
just out of curiosity, are there many girls out there? it doesn't bother me at all coz i studied engineering and i was one out of the very few girls there too...to be honest they all looked half men anyway that was mean, i take that back.

mistri

Pazu888

Hi

I have just passed phase 3, and I was in the same situation as you, had about an hour flying experience.

I prepared for it by reading about all the partner airlines (I learned the fleets, where they fly, when they started etc), the industry in general and also about the course itself.

For most of my interview I was asked about my previous jobs, how I motivate myself, when I have shown good team skills etc. They generally pick up on what you say and ask you more about certain aspects of it, hence "semi-structured". I did not get ANY technical questions. At the end they asked me who I would like to fly for, and what being a pilot involves, which gave me a chance to show my airline/industry knowledge.

I stayed at the Dale Farm Guest House, it was very comfortable, they are on the net.

Hope this helps, and good luck!

PS. Which stage 2 were you at? Was it on the 21 last month?

rusty_y2k2

Just had my Phase 2 today (was anyone else on here there today?)...

A few minutes ago I got an email saying I have passed I was terrified I had made a right balls up of that final test but evidently not enough to fail me :lol:


Onwards and upwards! Best of luck to everyone else there today and taking phase 2 soon. Best bit of advice is to just relax (easier said than done eh).

squawkident.

Hi Rusty-same here. passed as well.
I was the guy in the purple shirt/tie.
I got stage 3 booked for 22nd August but im on holiday then so im gonna try and re-arrange it for sooner hopefully.

Do agree with you in so far as i was sure i failed the last bit as well.
Well done and congrats.

Good luck

S.I

rusty_y2k2

Congrats, I was the chap in a black shirt and chinos....


The email told me the 16th for phase 3, but I can't make it so will have to rebook too I guess

mistri

hi pazu888,

ye i was there on the 21st!!!...with my whole family clan!
thanks for the advice for phase 3. it's great to hear that you were successful. good luck with the next phase. i'm sure you'll be fine.

i'll let you know how it went for me. oooo its on tuesday! better get on with my research.

mistri

Bigaircraft

Hi everyone, this is my first post on here but i realised there is a couple of you doing a stage 2 re-assessment on the 11th sept, I've just booked my re-assessment for this day, and already i'm bricking it! So glad to get invited to re-apply, was a massive relief to me. I've been practicing the last PILAPT test, the one with the crosshairs the shapes and the counting, I roped a few mates into doing the number count and showing me shapes and stuff while I flew on flightsim with the weather set to "stormy" (those crosshairs do move around don't they?!). For the maths I've been onto the Cabair website, they have a mock test, 10 questions in 30 minutes. Its a longer time but the questions are slightly harder but similar to the ones we had to re-endure! Also well done to the post stage four people on here

Also, anyone know the percentage of people who pass stage 2 the second time round?

sicky

I might have to try a similar practice!

Did you fail the maths first time around? I was told i don't have to re-do the maths, as i passed last time.

Bigaircraft

Yeah, failed first time (not enough practice!) anyways, glad of a second shot. I have been practicing alot this time though, the only trouble is whenever i close my eyes all i see is numbers!

jd8

Practice hard cos if you get to stage 4 to the sim check you may find CC asking you the square of 19 or how many months old you are while you are in a decending turn trying to roll out on 315 and level off at 2000ft....

FlightDeckDave

Arghh decided to go ahead and book reassesment for Stage 2 on the 14th Aug, didn't want to prolong the agony! Cheers 'Bigaircraft', for the tips to practice think I might get my brother running round the room shouting numbers at me! I managed to find out the stats of people who pass the 2nd stage 2nd time round - 55%. So guess it's worth it! Would really like to know how many of those who pass 2nd time actually make it on to the course but unfortunately CTC didn't provide that.

Right going to download the Pilapt-prep hope its worth it!

dyingforflying

did anybody passed stage 3 for the ATP scheme lately? And if yes, when are you going to the AQC?

Bigaircraft

Thats a useful insight! cheers now all i have to do is get there

Bigaircraft

Better than that of the amount of people getting through stage 2 the first time round, your right, it does sound likes its worth it

dodge123

I think there is at least a two month wait for the AQC at the moment, followed by approx. three months in the hold pool. From sources within I hear the length of time in the hold pool is due to grow as easy slow down recruitment due lack of trainers.
I also heard rumours that some recent low-hour entrants to easy are spending a couple of months in Ops post type rating before they can commence line training, again down to shortage of line trainers.