When to start sending CV's?????
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When to start sending CV's?????
Hey,
Well i've finally decidided which FTO to go to - i'm doing an ab-initio integrated programme at Naples Air Centre starting in a few weeks. So when do i start sending out CV's??? Obviously not yet, but i want to start as soon as is sensible. I should have my FAA PPL and FAA IR as well as about 115 hours by xmas. After the new year i'm starting ATPL ground school, which should be completed by August, and then finishing all the rest off, converting to JAA, and doing a MCC course by the end of the year. Someone i was chatting to recently suggested sending them out when i start the groundschool. What do you reckon??
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Well i've finally decidided which FTO to go to - i'm doing an ab-initio integrated programme at Naples Air Centre starting in a few weeks. So when do i start sending out CV's??? Obviously not yet, but i want to start as soon as is sensible. I should have my FAA PPL and FAA IR as well as about 115 hours by xmas. After the new year i'm starting ATPL ground school, which should be completed by August, and then finishing all the rest off, converting to JAA, and doing a MCC course by the end of the year. Someone i was chatting to recently suggested sending them out when i start the groundschool. What do you reckon??
Thanks!
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What a dumb question.
Airlines get pissed of receiving CV's with candidates having insufficient hours, let alone lack of licences!
Get on with your training and worry about a job when you have made the grade.
Airlines get pissed of receiving CV's with candidates having insufficient hours, let alone lack of licences!
Get on with your training and worry about a job when you have made the grade.
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Well i don't think it is a dumb question seeing as several pilots have said to me that you should start applying whilst still in training. As i said, i'm not suggesting now, but was asking at what point during the training i should start applying.
I do apologise for not knowing the answer,but i was under the impression that that is what these formums are for, to help people get answers to questions such as this.
I do apologise for not knowing the answer,but i was under the impression that that is what these formums are for, to help people get answers to questions such as this.
There is definitely no point whatsoever in sending out a cv until you are in a position to be realistically considered for a job. Most companies do not keep CVs for any longer than they absolutely have to and those they do keep will almost certainly have to meet their minimum requirements. Your cv right now is merely an extra admininstrative burden which they can well do without. Airlines at the moment do not seem to have much long-term planning in place so many of those being offered jobs are finding out at extremely short notice. No-one is going to offer you an interview based on what they might need in 18 months...that's even assuming you make it through to the end of the IR at all. Tom24 was not particularly helpful but he is, in essence, correct.
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Thank you, thats all i was after. Obvioulsy i was under the wrong impression. I just wanted to make sure i'm doing all i can once the time comes to get that first job. I know its a bit soon now, but just wanted to make sure. Thanks for your help mate. J.
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my advice: don't go to naples air center!!
they almost went bankrupt last year because they hadnt payed any insurance for their planes. they blackmailed me and other students to pay them or else they would go to the ins and kick us out of the country. they promised that they would get a j-1 visa status, but they never received it. last but not least, 4 months after i left naples, they stole $4000 by using my creditcard information without my permission. luckily enough i could get my money back from interpay (international creditcard company). nicky genitals and richard genitals are crooks and i just wish that nobody makes the same mistake as i did. so if you are wise... find another school!
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they almost went bankrupt last year because they hadnt payed any insurance for their planes. they blackmailed me and other students to pay them or else they would go to the ins and kick us out of the country. they promised that they would get a j-1 visa status, but they never received it. last but not least, 4 months after i left naples, they stole $4000 by using my creditcard information without my permission. luckily enough i could get my money back from interpay (international creditcard company). nicky genitals and richard genitals are crooks and i just wish that nobody makes the same mistake as i did. so if you are wise... find another school!
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Jimbo,
I have many freinds who have had bad times in florida. Can't speak for Naples, but i would strongly listen to what people say who have been there and seen it etc. It might look cheaper on paper, but it can easily become more expensive than staying here and having the best aviation training in the world (ready to get flamed)
I did all my training in the UK (except the PPL) and can thoroughly recommend it if your a brit (yer from london innit?)
...On the subject of sending CV's, do wait until you have the passes, so you know what you're selling!
Best of luck though,
the kitchin
I have many freinds who have had bad times in florida. Can't speak for Naples, but i would strongly listen to what people say who have been there and seen it etc. It might look cheaper on paper, but it can easily become more expensive than staying here and having the best aviation training in the world (ready to get flamed)
I did all my training in the UK (except the PPL) and can thoroughly recommend it if your a brit (yer from london innit?)
...On the subject of sending CV's, do wait until you have the passes, so you know what you're selling!
Best of luck though,
the kitchin
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Interesting Capt. Skidmarks......care to elaborate on that? Worrying if true, but goes against what most others have said, and its only your second post. Im not saying that its not true but have heard v few bad things said about the school. Anyone else have anything to say on the matter, although this is in the wrong forum really for this.
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this was naples air center official reaction... full of bull****
No such thing has happened. A crook named Bert Verduijn with a
school named IAC forwarded students to NAC for training and hours
building. When the school did not come forward with the more
$80,000.00 owed for the students, NAC went to the individual students for
payment. The students signed a contact at the beginning of their training
saying that they were responsible for their accounts. NAC wrote to the
individual students who gained the experience from NAC for payment and
they have not paid their accounts. The only comment that was made in the
letter was that "should we not receive the money owed then we will
need to take the issue further".
NAC has trained these students for no money and is in the process of
trying to retrieve the money. They state that they paid IAC, but we never
had a written agreement with IAC, moreover the contract was with the
student who signed the contract and individual aicraft dispatches. It
seems the school that was hurt most by the embezzling of IAC was NAC, yet
we are to be blamed for allowing students to fly on our money and never
receiving payment. It is for this reason, that NAC now has to receive
money on account prior to flight due to non payment from a Dutch school
an their students.
We tried to let the students finish their training even though the money
was not on account. More fool NAC for trying to get the students who had
already been disrupted from another school closing, to help these
students!
what really happened is that after iac went bankrupt, all the students had to open a new account with nac to continue their flighttraining. we had to make sure that the account had a positive balance at all times. everytime when we had flown, we had to deposit money on the account again etc. after i obtained my cpl-me-ir, i even got the remaining money back when i closed my account. i thought all was good, and a couple months later $4000 was drawn off my creditcard by naples air center! with no invoice nor my signature. this also happened to other iac students
good luck with finding a suitable school!
s.m.
No such thing has happened. A crook named Bert Verduijn with a
school named IAC forwarded students to NAC for training and hours
building. When the school did not come forward with the more
$80,000.00 owed for the students, NAC went to the individual students for
payment. The students signed a contact at the beginning of their training
saying that they were responsible for their accounts. NAC wrote to the
individual students who gained the experience from NAC for payment and
they have not paid their accounts. The only comment that was made in the
letter was that "should we not receive the money owed then we will
need to take the issue further".
NAC has trained these students for no money and is in the process of
trying to retrieve the money. They state that they paid IAC, but we never
had a written agreement with IAC, moreover the contract was with the
student who signed the contract and individual aicraft dispatches. It
seems the school that was hurt most by the embezzling of IAC was NAC, yet
we are to be blamed for allowing students to fly on our money and never
receiving payment. It is for this reason, that NAC now has to receive
money on account prior to flight due to non payment from a Dutch school
an their students.
We tried to let the students finish their training even though the money
was not on account. More fool NAC for trying to get the students who had
already been disrupted from another school closing, to help these
students!
what really happened is that after iac went bankrupt, all the students had to open a new account with nac to continue their flighttraining. we had to make sure that the account had a positive balance at all times. everytime when we had flown, we had to deposit money on the account again etc. after i obtained my cpl-me-ir, i even got the remaining money back when i closed my account. i thought all was good, and a couple months later $4000 was drawn off my creditcard by naples air center! with no invoice nor my signature. this also happened to other iac students
good luck with finding a suitable school!
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Capt. Skidmark
Did you actually ask NAC why they took $4000 from your credit card? I'm very concerned if they took a large sum of money from your credit card without your authorisation, and am very interested to know what they said if you did ask them about it.
I'm not quite sure about the rest of your complaints, however which makes me a little bit suspicious, especially as I've rarely heard a bad word against NAC. For example you say
Don't think you can really critisise a company for charging for the service they provide.
PW
Did you actually ask NAC why they took $4000 from your credit card? I'm very concerned if they took a large sum of money from your credit card without your authorisation, and am very interested to know what they said if you did ask them about it.
I'm not quite sure about the rest of your complaints, however which makes me a little bit suspicious, especially as I've rarely heard a bad word against NAC. For example you say
everytime when we had flown, we had to deposit money on the account again
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everytime when we had flown, we had to deposit money on the account again ->
Don't think you can really critisise a company for charging for the service they provide.
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that is true, but because i had a positive balance at all times, it refutes the following quote from the nac reaction.
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We tried to let the students finish their training even though the money
was not on account.
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this is a big lie! i have payed all costs for my training in advance to iac. while i was flying at naples air center, iac made payments to nac. when iac went bankrupt and nac didnt receive anymore money, nac started to charge us directly again (even for the flights that were already payed by the iac deposits!) so i have payed twice for my whole training.
nac never told me why they took $4000, but i am glad the interpay creditcard company dealt with it and recovered the claim.
eventhough the whole thing did cost me a fortune, it never stopped me from following my dream and i am still living it.
i hope your flighttraining will become a dream come true for you too!
greets, skidmark
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everytime when we had flown, we had to deposit money on the account again ->
Don't think you can really critisise a company for charging for the service they provide.
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that is true, but because i had a positive balance at all times, it refutes the following quote from the nac reaction.
quote:
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We tried to let the students finish their training even though the money
was not on account.
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this is a big lie! i have payed all costs for my training in advance to iac. while i was flying at naples air center, iac made payments to nac. when iac went bankrupt and nac didnt receive anymore money, nac started to charge us directly again (even for the flights that were already payed by the iac deposits!) so i have payed twice for my whole training.
nac never told me why they took $4000, but i am glad the interpay creditcard company dealt with it and recovered the claim.
eventhough the whole thing did cost me a fortune, it never stopped me from following my dream and i am still living it.
i hope your flighttraining will become a dream come true for you too!
greets, skidmark
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Skidmark, reading the thread, it appears to me that you had some sort of contract with IAC that went bad because they went tits up. What did you expect from NAC? Do you think that they should underwrite you for what a bankrupt company ripped you off for? It looks to me like you were taken for a few euros or whatever you paid in to IAC and expected NAC to make good your loss. Have you made representations to IAC?
Exactly, and what did you think NAC should do? Act as your insurance company? What does this forum say time and time again? Does "never pay up front for training" ring any bells?
If IAC went bust then NAC were not being paid. Did you expect to fly for free? - Nice idea but well divorced from the reality of life!
The fact is that you were taken in by IAC and are taking your anger out on NAC. Don't you think that you should look at your position from another perspective and consider yourself very fortunate not to have been thrown out of NAC once NAC found out that your bills were no longer being met by IAC?
i have payed all costs for my training in advance to iac.
everytime when we had flown, we had to deposit money on the account again
The fact is that you were taken in by IAC and are taking your anger out on NAC. Don't you think that you should look at your position from another perspective and consider yourself very fortunate not to have been thrown out of NAC once NAC found out that your bills were no longer being met by IAC?
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A CV now would be a mistake as you have nothing to put in the "Flying Experience" section.
But there is nothing wrong with asking them their advice on....well, there must be hundreds of questions. This then maybe just maybe might at some stage in the future be to your advantage as some airlines keep a record form day one when you start contact.
Good luck
A CV now would be a mistake as you have nothing to put in the "Flying Experience" section.
But there is nothing wrong with asking them their advice on....well, there must be hundreds of questions. This then maybe just maybe might at some stage in the future be to your advantage as some airlines keep a record form day one when you start contact.
Good luck
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hi pinga,
offcourse i didnot expect to fly for free, but what makes me mad is that nac also charged me for the flights that iac had already payed BEFORE they went bankrupt. and that they stole $4000 after i left naples... do you think i have no right to be angry about this?
and about iac, we are still trying to hang mr. bert verduijn for what he did, but it might take a long time
greets
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offcourse i didnot expect to fly for free, but what makes me mad is that nac also charged me for the flights that iac had already payed BEFORE they went bankrupt. and that they stole $4000 after i left naples... do you think i have no right to be angry about this?
and about iac, we are still trying to hang mr. bert verduijn for what he did, but it might take a long time
greets
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Jimbo
coming from my own experience, doing a license abroad be it US, Canada, OZ/NZ wherever, and then converting to a JAA does not always work out to be cheaper. In hindsight, I should have stayed here and done it from start to finish rather than abroad and then converting - probably going to cost me about 5-10000Euro extra.
coming from my own experience, doing a license abroad be it US, Canada, OZ/NZ wherever, and then converting to a JAA does not always work out to be cheaper. In hindsight, I should have stayed here and done it from start to finish rather than abroad and then converting - probably going to cost me about 5-10000Euro extra.
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Capt skidmark, what I believe happened is that you paid IAC in good faith in advance for flight training. IAC didn't pay NAC leaving you to pick up the tab. And the moral of the story to all wannabees is:
NEVER PAY UPFRONT FOR FLIGHT TRAINING!
How many people have been robbed this way? You are just another victim of the likes of the sharks that infest companies like IAC. You are not the first person to lose money and I doubt very much that you will be the last. I do believe that NAC also lost a considerable sum thanks to IAC.
NEVER PAY UPFRONT FOR FLIGHT TRAINING!
How many people have been robbed this way? You are just another victim of the likes of the sharks that infest companies like IAC. You are not the first person to lose money and I doubt very much that you will be the last. I do believe that NAC also lost a considerable sum thanks to IAC.
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iac existed and succesfully trained pilots for over 22years, but somehow the president of the company became a crook.
at the time of bankrupcy, there were 60 students who were screwed and lost somewhere between 1000 and even 80.000 euros!!!
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at the time of bankrupcy, there were 60 students who were screwed and lost somewhere between 1000 and even 80.000 euros!!!
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