Tattoos and Airlines
Codger's post reminded me of an engineer I used to work with. Had a Japanese tattoo on his upper arm which he'd been told meant 'Love'.
Then he went to Japan.
What did it actually mean?
'Foreplay'
Then he went to Japan.
What did it actually mean?
'Foreplay'
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Interesting topic.
Both sides have made good points and I agree with a lot of what's been said.
That said, I think people with tattoos should realise that if they're visible they are not going to create a good impression. If you're not prepared to get rid of them for the sake of a job, then maybe you are not committed to the job in question.
Both sides have made good points and I agree with a lot of what's been said.
That said, I think people with tattoos should realise that if they're visible they are not going to create a good impression. If you're not prepared to get rid of them for the sake of a job, then maybe you are not committed to the job in question.
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Never wear a white shirt to an interview. It acts as a highlight to any grey in the compexion, brings out the bags under one's eyes and exaggerates beard density in males.
A cream shirt is fine but the best colour of all is blue.
Ties are tricky and probably the best advice here is to wear something rather muted, in colour tone with the shirt, but most especially not to wear a necktie which could be construed as a club, school or regimental tie. That goes for cuff links as well.
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Cavortingcheetah,
Blue's safe if you're going for an interview in Europe. If you're going for an interview in China or Hong Kong, blue's not a smart colour.
Blue's safe if you're going for an interview in Europe. If you're going for an interview in China or Hong Kong, blue's not a smart colour.
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Must admit, one had not thought of that one!
Would that be because blue has something to do with bad luck in the Orient?
How about a red shirt with a white tie with a gold flaming dragon embroiderd on it, especially if auditioning for Dragonair?
As an addendum, note that blue is Chinese mask colour of astuteness, staunchness and fierceness. Small wonder then that pilots' uniforms are so coloured?
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I've got tatoos, did have earings and convictions all from one pissed up weekend in Blackpool when i was 17, Just like alot of young lads did at my age, but i soon learned my lesson and perhaps the shock of it all made me alot more responsible alot quicker. Just cos my tats can be seen now when i take my shirt off that dosen't mean i'm not responsible or capable enough to fly 200 pax in complete safety.
Saying all that though i'll make sure on the day of the interview no-one can see them England and Man City badges scrawled on my arms
Hope my mum dosn't read this either she still dosn't know
Saying all that though i'll make sure on the day of the interview no-one can see them England and Man City badges scrawled on my arms
Hope my mum dosn't read this either she still dosn't know
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Accent
I refer to sensible's comment at the beginning of this thread:
'The fact is that a tatoo indicates ones class!! ie: tatoos are considered working class and some may not be comfortable with that!! But then some may be!!
Now shoot me down!'
Is it still a disadvantage to be working class when applying for airlines?
I have a mild Tyneside accent but stil undoubtetly working class. would this hinder me? I must admit most pilots I have met all seem to have either standard english or southern accents.
You can remove a tatoo, accents are a little trickier!!
'The fact is that a tatoo indicates ones class!! ie: tatoos are considered working class and some may not be comfortable with that!! But then some may be!!
Now shoot me down!'
Is it still a disadvantage to be working class when applying for airlines?
I have a mild Tyneside accent but stil undoubtetly working class. would this hinder me? I must admit most pilots I have met all seem to have either standard english or southern accents.
You can remove a tatoo, accents are a little trickier!!
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Your accent's not a problem. It'll only be an issue if you can't be easily understood.
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Very noticeable Yorkshire accent & no problem?
Allot of people do make issues where there do not seem to be any?
Not a dig at you g783cef, just in general?
YYZ
(Plus I have a tattoo; I’m never going to get a job now!)
Allot of people do make issues where there do not seem to be any?
Not a dig at you g783cef, just in general?
YYZ
(Plus I have a tattoo; I’m never going to get a job now!)
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Accents
I realise that it may seem people are inventing issues that may not exist, but these are real concerns which need to be aired.
I for one have yet to meet a professional airline pilot with a very noticable regional/working class accent. This can't be a coincidence. Either people with regional accents modify thier accents whilst at uni/triaining or they hardly exist in the profession. There must be a reason for this.
My accent is quite mild but obviously 'Geordie' which becomes stronger when i'm visiting Newcastle around family & friends from my hometown.
I'm not a great believer in accent modification as I feel it is a betrayal of ones identity but if I needed to i.e to get a job I suppose I would have no choice.
I for one have yet to meet a professional airline pilot with a very noticable regional/working class accent. This can't be a coincidence. Either people with regional accents modify thier accents whilst at uni/triaining or they hardly exist in the profession. There must be a reason for this.
My accent is quite mild but obviously 'Geordie' which becomes stronger when i'm visiting Newcastle around family & friends from my hometown.
I'm not a great believer in accent modification as I feel it is a betrayal of ones identity but if I needed to i.e to get a job I suppose I would have no choice.
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I understand your point g783cef, and my reply was a bit tongue & cheek, I have many friends who have strong Yorkshire accents who currently work commercially for an airline (myself included), therefore do not worry, an accent does not reduce your mental capacity.. Unless you're from Birmingham
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I too have a strong Lancashire accent but i tend to talk more clearly and lose it when talking to someone who's not got an accent, as in speaking the queens . Also when i'm talking to ATC i tend to become alot more correct and posh and usually without noticing so i doubt it'll be a mayor problem. Suppose its down to discrimination if you dont get selected cos your a scouscer or a jock
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Your accent is not an issue unles you are difficult to understand. Your place of origin is irrelevant as long as you have the rights of work and residence. Tattoos are not an issue if they are not visible. Convictions are an issue; read this thread for more information.
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Yeah thanks for concern but my convictions are classed as spent now and they never get mentioned again apart from on a website where no-one knows me.
Besides i'm a good boy now
Besides i'm a good boy now
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Convictions are covered in the thread I linked to. Please do not take this thread off topic. Also, I have deleted a number of posts that simply give the individual's opinions of tattoos, which are of no use to anyone facing the problem of what to do about them. The common airline policy about tattoos has been given here; it is up to the individual to ensure that they comply with that policy. Individual opinions about tattoos are irrelevant to the topic at hand.
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I flew with a tatooed captain today. Highly visible on the forearm. The offending tatoo obviously hasn't caused any career problems yet.
Plenty of the captains in my company have regional or local accents - like other posters have said before, it isn't a problem unless you cannot be understood. Far more important - use standard phraseology and don't mumble or think out loud.
sr
Plenty of the captains in my company have regional or local accents - like other posters have said before, it isn't a problem unless you cannot be understood. Far more important - use standard phraseology and don't mumble or think out loud.
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A previous work colleague of mine has visible tattoos. He chose to keep them, and has not encountered any problems whatsoever in his last 8 years in the company.
He flies for a 744 operator from LHR and LGW. Not BA.
Perhaps the policy on recruitment has changed there since 21st May 2004, where Scroggs mentions that no one with them will get into his company.
Rgds.
He flies for a 744 operator from LHR and LGW. Not BA.
Perhaps the policy on recruitment has changed there since 21st May 2004, where Scroggs mentions that no one with them will get into his company.
Rgds.
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