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Old 11th Feb 2004, 06:36
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Angry CAA exams are a total ripp-off

CAA is a total ripp-off.
they run 14 exams, stack with 60 guys, 4 weeks exam (pilot, engineer,...)
they make at least 500'000 US$ every month and this is for ONE center.6 millions every year,24 millions for the 4 centers. 3 in the UK and one in the US.

they just have to pay 2 ladies per center, and a machine to correct and a basic old pentium2 and a printer to prepare the exams.

they make SO MUCH MONEY, that anyone thinking to privatize the system, will be shot by professional killers.so if you post anything here , think twice!

how I know that? a guy working at gatwick told me it!
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Thanks for the accurate report.

Their are 4 centers in the UK and 2 in the USA.

Good homework.
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Isn't it nice to read an intelligent, well thought out post full of interesting new information?

What a shame this isn't one of those posts!

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4 centers and 2 in the USA, I AM SO SORRY!!!

PLEASE DONT BEAT ME!!!
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Old 13th Feb 2004, 16:23
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If you dont want to do the CAA exams you dont have to.

Either

a) Dont fly commercially over here
b) Emigrate
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Can't see the point of this thread.

Tell us something we don't know!

I take it you're going to martyr yourself out of a career just so you don't line the CAA's pockets....?

Now that would be an interesting thread........
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Old 13th Feb 2004, 17:17
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This will upset you, then. The exam fees are going up to £55 a paper from 01 April 04.
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Old 13th Feb 2004, 19:30
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Talking

Ah, but Alex, you see the CAA have a sense of humour, really.

Going up to £55 per exam? It's an April Fool's Joke - of course!

I mean, surely they couldn't justify charging THAT much, could they?
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Old 13th Feb 2004, 21:37
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But you get a very nice, multi course & cheap subsidised lunch for that price.




It helps the enjoyment if you can pretend it wasn't subsidised by you...
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Old 13th Feb 2004, 22:49
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I think it is entirely reasonable. After all somebody has to subsidise the cafe and keep those Porsches parked in the executive bay. Not to mention the hoards of staff needed to process my rating in four weeks, many of whome seemed to be surfing the web...incidently.

Regarding ratings, why is it that I wait four weeks for the thing but when I turn up for the exams thay can produce it on the spot after telling me they are still processing the ratings for the previous month?
 
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CAA

Here, here, on separate note of CAA bashing

Called the CAA the other day from overseas and sat there fat dumb and happy on the FCL answerphone for 20 mins under the pretence that someone would eventually answer me , only to be told all staff are busy and to ring back later and promptly cut off. Wonder how many times I will have to do that during the day before I actually get through. Funny, the same thing happened last september as well and yes I think I remember that they were experiencing 'an unusually high volume of calls then as well'

Still haven't got through

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Call me an old cynic and all that
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Old 14th Feb 2004, 21:01
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Alex re increased exam fees : does that mean fees are increased for all exams sat from april onwards or all exams booked from april onwards.

I'm going to be sitting mod 2 in may but booking in march.... what's it going to cost me ?

Ps, I thought the CAA was a non-profit organisation ??

pps, why can't planes be run on elestic bands, I hate a/c electrical systems !
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Old 15th Feb 2004, 00:43
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I thought the CAA was a non-profit organisation
Maybe somebody can correct me, but I thought that the Government (God bless their little cotton socks) wanted the CAA to show a profit.
 
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Tinstaafl: the caff is no longer subsidised for anyone with a visitor's pass. So I went in there and sat down for an hour or so, revising for the Comms papers (read on...) with a cup of free coffee from one of the machines.

On the subject of which, why the did I have to sit the comms papers in the first place? My previous job: talking to pilots on 126.725 and 128.925 for the Maastricht Delta Sector!!!!!

Still, I passed the first 7 first time, thereby depriving the CAA of relieving me of another £52 per exam. Serves the ******s right. I think I shall write them a very sternly worded letter after I have passed the next 7.
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Maybe they should set a variable costing system ie, How large each exam is!!

Com's = £5

Gen Nav, Flight Planning, Systems = £55

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I saw the price difference between visitor & staff last time I was there. Looking at what's on offer I still think it's subsidised - just not as much as the staff rate. @rseholes.
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I think it is for exams booked from April onwards. I sit my first exams in April and have paid £52 per exam. Unless they come back for the difference.

I have also wondered why we have to do comms again, having done it all once for the PPL. I assume there is nothing different about it. They obviously realise that I am absolutely loaded and don't have anything better to do with my money (yeah right) and another thing, why do they split it into two half hour exams for VFR and IFR at £52 each ? Wouldn't a one hour exam do the same job ?
Is that too much like common sense or is there just not enough profit in it ?
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Old 17th Feb 2004, 06:08
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Please, would you give me the adress of the unemployment' office in Gatwick. I try to get my money back from the CAA.

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Is there a good reason that anyone knows of why the scheme of charges, both Private and Professional, have mostly gone up by around 10%? Have they been frozen for the past few years, perhaps?

Would be nice if somewhere on the CAA website they explained just why they need to slap such an increases on these charges to individuals.

Useful data at least, to compare the cost of admin by the CAA with the cost of admin in the private sector.
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Old 1st Apr 2004, 18:32
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Because they can!

You all want to know why they can charge so much for exams (and flight testss and license issue for that matter!). It is because they can! Who else in the uk is going to let you loose in the air? No one! They have one of those niche markets that no other operator can get into. I think they are just trying to raise the hoops for s%&*s and giggles to see how high we can jump. A bit like the olympics just more expensive and not as funny for us. Its funny though, I was being mocked by my cpl instructor today because my Antipodean CAA issued me with a piece of laminated paper (license) when over here you get a big 'novel' of a license. They thought it was hilarious and might as well been drummed up by any old hack on the family pc. I pointed out that it cost only $50 for the issue not £340 , the flight examiner verified your hours and the license was back in your hands within a few days.

You want to know why the CAA can raise prices. Because they can, its wrong and everyone cant understand what our money goes towards but thats not the CAA's problem!
 


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