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Old 9th Sep 2003, 14:25
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Question SIM check following the interview ??

Hi to all, just discovered this forum today, and am glad i've found such a forum !

Well, here is my question...
I've read in another message (can't find it anymore..sorry). About a Simulator session description (following an interview). Made on 737 where he had to climb 5000 , steep turn 45° & 60°, 1 engine & 2 Engines ILS etc....
My question is...
Since lots of ppl going to the sim afer the interview, are not TR on the aircraft and have no knowledge of the systems and/or procedures typical to the aircract... by that, i mean :
1) How can i fly a 1 engine ILS in a 737 without knowing the approach flap sequence of the 737, how can i know the procedure of the aircraft when engine fire come (i don't know yt the places of each button..) ?

2)what about the flows ? do they do it and we concentrate on flying only ? Is it required in such an evaluation to do the approach check list by ourselves or we can just disregard all those procedures for the evaluation ?

in short : do we just have to hold the stick and the throttles correctly and that s it !?

Never been interviewed yet, but i hope soon...

Thanks a lot for every of your answers.
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You wll be helped with speeds/power settings and sequences for flap, it is a look at your instrument flying and ability to improve through the session in the sim. when the time comes listen to the brief, concentrate, try to relax and do your best
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Since lots of ppl going to the sim afer the interview
Well, firstly, no PPL will be called for an interview, let alone put in a sim for assessment. The minimum requirements to be called for selection into an airline are a Commercial Pilots Licence with an Instrument Rating. This is what the sim assessment is testing; your flying ability on instruments in a twin engined aircraft. They are also seeing if you have the ability to adapt and learn quickly to a 'bigger' a/c type (ie a twin jet when the largest you have flown is a piston twin).

1) How can i fly a 1 engine ILS in a 737 without knowing the approach flap sequence of the 737, how can i know the procedure of the aircraft when engine fire come (i don't know yt the places of each button..) ?
They do not expect you to do any 'aircraft specifics' such as starting, scan flows, QRH drills, single engine flying etc etc if you have no previous experience of it. What they want to see is can you fly speeds, headings, track in and out of beacons, fly an ILS etc etc. As mentioned by 4Screwaircrew they will send you a 'profile' before the assessment which you need to inwardly digest........worry though because you will remember it all clearly until you are there doing 160kts just after rotation when the mind will go blank........! It details all the info about flying the type that you need to know to fly the sim detail. Anything unclear make a note of it before the day. In the briefing listen and tick off any of your questions that are answered, when offered the opportunity to ask questions seek clarification on anything left on your list, no matter how simple it may be ask it. Be sure you have no outstanding queries by the time you get into the sim, you simply must do everything to give yourself the best chance of passing, no good trying to come up with excuses after the cock up!

in short : do we just have to hold the stick and the throttles correctly and that s it !?
No. There is an awful lot more to it than that and everyone who works with an airline now will remember their first sim assessment in something that was a big step up for them. They are looking at your attitude, your communication skills, your command and two crew interaction, your ability to cope with stress and pressure, your spatial awareness, your mental capacity, your determination to succeed if things aren't going well and so much more.....................

Things to remember that may help you out

1. Trim. Constantly.
2. Anticipate.
3. Trim again.
4. Remember pitch/ power couples with underslung engines.
5. Learn ballpark power settings which will help to counter point 4
6. Jets require handfulls of thrust lever to adjust speeds that are not correct.
7. Learn how to conduct a departure/ arrival brief, it goes down well.
8. Trim again.
9. Adjust smoothly when you spot an error.
10. Scan like hell.
11. Exude professionalism and listen to what you are told.
12. Finally, keep the aircraft in TRIM!

Good luck

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Pete: 'ppl' is sometimes used as a contraction for the word 'people'. I think that's what iaf meant.
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maybe I need a lesson in 'textease'!

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Effectively, by 'ppl' i meant people, sorry for the confusion.
and Thanks a lot 4Screwaircrew & pilot pete for your answers.
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