I agree. Ned Wallace was a visionary at Flying Tigers and many other airlines since. Avient's boss/owner is not, although I can think of a few words begining with W that may reflect most peoples opinion of him and Avient :8

The Americans are comming!

Certainly not on the same scale, Imnotapilot, but please dont split your hairs or fingernails, you wont understand anyway!

Translation please
 

Huh??? Translation Please AAL

HHMMM...who had doubts about Avient and MD11s ???

JetPhotos.Net Photo » N408SH (CN: 48408) Avient Aviation McDonnell Douglas MD-11(F) by Roberto collazo

Fair dinkum :ok:

You have to give credit to Mr Smith, he seems to be attempting to get his company in a good position to reap the post recession benefits :ok:

That MD11 has been airbrushed. Now, moving on........

You have to give credit to Mr Smith
 

No you don't - and a lot of people won't, particularly owners of MD11's methinks...

Certainly not airbrushed, I've seen it in the flesh so to speak.

Charter Man

Yawn Yawn Yawn!! You should pop down to Autoglass to see if they can do anything to fill that chip you seem to be carrying. You may just crack.....:ok:

slice, what about the alleged debt of €1 million left behind in XCR..?:confused:

Overlength,

Don't know. But with everything in life I am sure there are two sides to a story. :confused:

Slice

Well we shall have to see what happens in the coming months, it's one thing having a nice new paint job and having the aircraft looking pretty on the ramp, but it's another thing getting the aircraft registered and in the air earning money as all the time it sits there it's not earning so lets wait and see !!

Funny how its always the same old, and the emphasis is on OLD, characters that bitch and moan about SMJ and Andrew Smith. Do us all a favour and go back to your mud huts and enjoy an early retirement. The airline industry has changed, it is no longer what it used to be. Its a dog-eat-dog world out there, and jobs are few and far between. SMJ employs a great bunch of people, and seeing an MD-11 on the ramp is a clear sign of progress. The demise of Gemini and the like dealt a devastating blow to many livelihoods. Growth, however small is growth none the less. :*

Rumour coming out of Nigeria this morning is that Avient have cancelled todays flight into Port Harcourt as they owe Conoil $2M and they are refusing to supply them any more fuel! Won't be long before the Nigerian equivalent of a snow plough will be parked behind the next Avient aircraft visiting Nigeria (assuming they get some other suckers to supply them with fuel on credit !). When will these fuel companies every learn ? :ugh:

When will these fuel companies every learn ?
 

I'm sure World Fuels will give them credit, they let MK have 3 million dollars worth before the administrator came in!
Any more news on the MD11F, seen in MIA last week - why isn't it earning it's keep?
CM

Cause its photoshopped :E

no it's not ;)
They talk about an MD11 here
http://www.liegeairport.com/document...AVIENT_000.pdf

avient wait
 

lets and wait and watch... and not jump the gun..

the MD11 (still N reg)
 

Take a look at their website. Avient Limited Specialising in Air Cargo to Africa and the World. Looks like they have it.

Rumour has it that the Avient MD-11F will be delivered to Liege on the 18th of November 2009. Let's wait and see...

The Avient registered IL-76 has now ben parked up in Fujairah for over a month now, maybe on maintenance or they have finished with it??

It was close to major servicing required so perhaps it's finished, probably cheaper to replace, if required, than service.

Maximum extendable life limit has finally expired. This was one of the first T models ever built but exceptionaly well maintained while it was in Avient's service.

In fairness, it was a credit to the crew - who appeared to look after it.

When I had a look around it, it was pretty immaculate - even more guys looking for work I imagine though.

MD11 doing Asia - Europe ?
 

AirCargo News says the new MD11 will operate between Europe & Asia. So not replacing an existing DC10 but adding to the fleet instead ?

Avient adds MD-11F to fleet :: Air Cargo News :: The World's Best Read Air Cargo Newspaper

Well, in honour of the old lady, taken in Benghazi last year:-
http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=yz...800&quality=80

SMJ123F
 

SMJ123F due to dep KMIA 00:10UTC 19Nov and arr EBLG 08:30UTC 19Nov
Aircraft reg Z-BAV.

Aircraft still in Miami. Probably rectifying a few snags prior to ferry flight. This aircraft was parked up for a long time after the demise of Varig Log so I wouldn't expect it to be that reliable for the first few months of operation. Also Commercial Jet in Miami (the maint provider) is not exactly a KLM or SR technics !

Lambrettaman - I hear the MD is still in MIA any news or update when she is due to fly out?

It's now flying between Liège and Hong-Kong it seems
Avient is expecting a second MD11 for the begining on 2010

MD11F Z-BAV is up and running. It just landed in Liege again as SMJ374F from Shannon. Mode S was showing something completely different. Crew had a clear Portugese accent, most likely they stayed with the aircraft as it migrated from Brazil :}

Good luck
 

Good luck to all at Avient - met these chaps and a super bunch. It takes guts to look forward in these hard times - it's all too easy to give up and throw everything and everyone on the scrap heap - the new bird is a credit. Here's to happy flying.:ok:

Goes To Show!!!
 

Never believe anything you hear and read. Best of luck to Avient.

Avient MD11 down ?
 

Singapore Straits Times says a MD-11F registered in Zimbabwe crashed on take-off at PVG. Four accounted for, three missing.
How many MD11Fs are on Zimbabwe register ?

Wow, less than a week in service before written off. Me thinks this is the
end for Avient.

Trust that the world will now sit up and pay attention.

Is the Zimbabwean CAA type rated to register, certify, regulate and oversee MD-11's, DC-10's, and IL-76's.

Also time for the world and especially the EU to question why Avient fly on a second-rate degenarated to third world standard registry of convenience, but are allowed to base themselves in and operate permanently in and out of Europe.

Why the European Union allowed the two ex-DAS DC-10's to operate like this based and flying in and out of Europe, if because of their age and condition they were banned when flying for DAS.

Regret to say, this was coming. Post your real name and address before attacking someone by name. CR2.

Condolences to families and friends, and may crew RIP.

Seems as though Z-BAV overran runway 35R (4000 meters/13123 feet long) on take-off and burst into flames.

Crew were taken to local hospitals, where three died. Three of the survivors received minor injuries, the fourth received serious injuries but is in a stable condition.

Tragically correct, and going . . .

US sources (Washington Post) are quoting that the MD11 flight crew killed were all Americans.

Condolences to all concerned.